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@gnocchiwizard
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In the wake of the advent of civilian intelligence, propaganda became a feature of daily life. no longer an aberration conjured up to generate support for war, intelligence became concerned with EVERYTHING and EVERYONE, and propaganda became more complex and entirely trippier.
intelligence continued knowingly disseminating falsehoods in order to manufacture support for its desired wars, the Gulf of Tonkin and Iraq's weapons of mass destruction being obvious examples.
now, did the journalists at NYTimes who wrote, edited and published those stories know they were lying? it's quite likely they did not. the generals who commanded the war also likely believed the casus belli. putting aside this sincerity, they were still LIES.
past manufacturing consent for wars, western intelligence got into weirder territory. sprawling human experiments into the possibility of mind control, active measures to infiltrate and destabilize domestic political threats, these conspiracies are just known. no theory about it.
...which brings me, at long last, to covid. it is inconceivable to me that western intelligence was uninvolved in the media driven panic based on carefully crafted falsehoods, that they had no say in the drastic, sudden, and comprehensive restructuring of human society.
that i cannot name the specific conspirators is insignificant. it also doesn't matter that journalists, politicians, bureaucrats and public health officials all sincerely believed they were telling the truth. they really thought they were trying to save lives. so fucking what?
respectable dissidents tend to deride the notion that this was all done on purpose for reasons not made public. they mock the idea of bond villains twisting their mustaches in private, cackling over their deceitful plots. These people do not understand the history of propaganda.
why was the laughably fraudulent imperial college model front paged by the New York Times in march of 2020, just like the Gulf of Tonkin, The Maine, Saddam's WMDs?
the brilliance of covid was taking tools usually reserved for war propaganda, and using them instead for a "public health" initiative. even most people who studied propaganda failed to perceive it in action, because instead of generals, it was doctors giving press conferences.
...in propaganda, lies are disseminated on purpose, in order to affect unstated policy goals that would otherwise be impossible in democracies.
Emails reveal California Health Dept. told county officials to be quiet about secret lab
I may have already posted this... I forget.
Re: Suppression/Propaganda in Media
Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 2:53 pm
by Grizzly
follow up?
Proposed ordinance following discovery of illegal lab in Central California
Fresno councilmembers announcing proposed Infectious Disease Lab Accountability and Transparency ordinance after discovery of secret lab in Reedley.
from comments
Gavin Newsome gave a $360,000.00 tax break to this Fresno lab in 2019
Re: Suppression/Propaganda in Media
Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2023 7:02 pm
by stickdog99
Grayzone & CJ Hopkins
Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 10:04 pm
by JackRiddler
1. Doesn't matter what problems I have with the Hopkins style, or that I see comparison of mask-wearing to Nazi armbands as incredibly stupid and, worse, politically destructive. His conviction in Germany for a tweet and book cover is bad bad news.
2. I haven't explored the details of the new EU regulations on Internet and the consequences globally but expect yet another step to an arbitrary, unaccountable, increasingly blanket online censorship regime.
3. GoFundMe suddenly suspended payout on the Grayzone fundraiser due to outside complaints and apparently this means they don't get the money? But do the donors get refunds? Wtf?
Satirist and author CJ Hopkins was found guilty and sentenced to 60 days in prison or a 3600 Euro fine by a German court for a single tweet mocking mask mandates, and for the cover of his book, "The New Normal Reich," which examines pandemic restrictions and the propaganda surrounding them as symbols of a new authoritarian order in the liberal West.
CJ joins The Grayzone's Max Blumenthal to discuss his conviction for violating Germany's unusual speech codes and what it says about the future of liberal democracy in Europe.
Biden administration coerced social media giants into possible free speech violations: court
September 8 2023
Jessica Guynn
USA TODAY
The White House, health officials and the FBI may have violated the First Amendment rights of people posting about COVID-19 and elections on social media by pressuring technology companies to suppress or remove the posts, a federal appeals court ruled late Friday.
The decision from the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals partly upheld an order from a Louisiana federal judge that blocked many federal agencies from having contact with companies like Facebook, YouTube and X, formerly Twitter, about content moderation.
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Re: Suppression/Propaganda in Media
Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 12:34 am
by Grizzly
https://twitter.com/unusual_whales/stat ... 1829169302
Tech tycoons with a combined net worth of roughly $550 billion gathered in the same room today for a Senate forum on the future and regulation of AI, per Bloomberg: (Your Gods).
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We are being primed for an aggressive and overt form of ‘social credit’ enforcement, when decisions are made unilaterally by entities — financial institutions, govts, and large corporate orgs that are ostensibly not operated by govts — without any form of due process.
Among other affronts being aggressively ‘tested’ on first world countries en masse since late 2019.
Belligerent Savant » Wed Sep 20, 2023 3:38 pm wrote:.
We are being primed for an aggressive and overt form of ‘social credit’ enforcement, when decisions are made unilaterally by entities — financial institutions, govts, and large corporate orgs that are ostensibly not operated by govts — without any form of due process.
Among other affronts being aggressively ‘tested’ on first world countries en masse since late 2019.
She's confusing the right to due process with the right to a soapbox on someone else's property, and she's acting like being ostracized is somehow new and novel. Maybe he's innocent, maybe he's not, it doesn't matter. People are going to have opinions about it no matter what, and Youtube's opinion is obviously that they don't want to be associated with him right now, which is their right. They're an advertising business, not a charity. The alternative is to force them to carry speech they don't want to be associated with, which is a huge can of worms. There's plenty of legal speech that most sane people wouldn't want to touch with a ten foot pole.
Belligerent Savant » Wed Sep 20, 2023 3:38 pm wrote:.
We are being primed for an aggressive and overt form of ‘social credit’ enforcement, when decisions are made unilaterally by entities — financial institutions, govts, and large corporate orgs that are ostensibly not operated by govts — without any form of due process.
Among other affronts being aggressively ‘tested’ on first world countries en masse since late 2019.
She's confusing the right to due process with the right to a soapbox on someone else's property, and she's acting like being ostracized is somehow new and novel. Maybe he's innocent, maybe he's not, it doesn't matter. People are going to have opinions about it no matter what, and Youtube's opinion is obviously that they don't want to be associated with him right now, which is their right. They're an advertising business, not a charity. The alternative is to force them to carry speech they don't want to be associated with, which is a huge can of worms. There's plenty of legal speech that most sane people wouldn't want to touch with a ten foot pole.
LOL. If youtube doesn't want to be associated with Brand, why not pull his channel?
Why leave his channel while stealing his promised cut of the revenue his channel generates?
"Corporate media has dug up some anonymous sources who accuse him of committing serious crimes. Thus, our only ethical recourse is to steal his money!"
And since when is government in the business of pressuring corporations to financially penalize individuals based on anonymous allegations?
Innocent until proven anti-establishment?
Re: Suppression/Propaganda in Media
Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2023 4:57 pm
by DrEvil
They should, definitely. If they don't like him they should boot his ass instead of pulling this shady shit, but whatever fuckery Youtube is up to with Brand has nothing to do with his rights. He doesn't have the right to have a Youtube channel, or to make money off them. All of that is entirely divorced from his right to due process in criminal proceedings.
Re: Suppression/Propaganda in Media
Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2023 5:49 pm
by stickdog99
DrEvil » 25 Sep 2023 20:57 wrote:They should, definitely. If they don't like him they should boot his ass instead of pulling this shady shit, but whatever fuckery Youtube is up to with Brand has nothing to do with his rights. He doesn't have the right to have a Youtube channel, or to make money off them. All of that is entirely divorced from his right to due process in criminal proceedings.
Does the UK government have the right to threaten private entities not to do business with a citizen because decades-old anonymous allegations were made against this citizen?
I mean, regardless of your personal disdain for Brand and/or defense of any corporate punishment of him, don't you think this sets a bad precedent? Can you think of a single example of something like this happening in the past in the public domain in any supposedly free nation?
