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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:04 pm
by Perelandra
compared2what? wrote:We like Mme. de Stael, even if she's no Mme. de Sevigne, and she was -- of course -- the most epigrammatic Swedish-by-marriage, Swiss-born woman (sometimes) writing in French of the 18th century, and tout comprendre rend très-indulgent, and so on. But that's not what the Wife of Bath's point is at all.

Nor is it either a very true or a very profound one, imo, although it's definitely a tenacious one. ("For contemplation he and valor formed/For softness she and sweet attractive grace/He for God only, she for God in him," and so on and so forth in that trademark justifying-the-ways-of-God-to-man fashion that makes Milton so annoyingly impossible not to admire no matter how big of a drag he is.)
What I should have made clear is that Madame de Stael and whether or not she even made the statement is irrelevant. The quote is a puzzle piece that points to something larger for me.

The Wife of Bath asserts her power in the only ways she believes she can in her society, over men, marriage, and money. In portraying her striving, I believe Chaucer makes a perhaps ruefully, as you perceive, misogynistic statement, typical of his time.

The quote, IMO, may tell us superficially about the social construct of de Stael, but the point actually is more profound and even has to do with the cosmic feminine and masculine. Something to do with feminine power and masculine force. The reason it came to me, was your statement about feminine sovereignty (power).

I can't really elaborate as I haven't gotten much further with my thoughts about it.

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 4:33 pm
by compared2what?
I then gave a very wrong impression of the implications for power and gender in The Wife of Bath's Tale. But that can't really hurt any living person much, can it?

I therefore say (in the spirit of on-topicality) that it's all good and it's all in fun. So get in the Image and try to love some one!*

:)

*As they say.

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:24 pm
by Perelandra
compared2what? wrote:Hmm. It's beyond my powers of summary to concisely explain on what basis my argument rests, but if you're willing to take it on faith that I do have one, imo, Chaucer goes out of his way to associate the Middle English equivalent for the word "cunt" with both the highest and the lowest concepts of feminine power, wisdom, and mystery.
Oops, I missed this part. I read too fast. OK, I guess I'll take it on faith, or maybe now I have to read Chaucer again with new eyes. But enough of him!
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What is your favorite word for vagina, anyone?

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 6:04 pm
by OP ED
i do not think anyone has ever asked that question of me before.

i'll have to think on it. (which is what i was doing anyway)

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 6:26 pm
by OP ED
esotericmetal wrote:I thought the thread was going to be about this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cvo1LwH1XXE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR3ccmWmLhk

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so did i.

one of my most played albums. like lounge music for luciferians.



Puscifer -- Rev 22:20 (w/Milla Jovovich)

Puscifer -- Rev 22:20 (dry martini mix)


Puscifer -- Rev 22:20
Don't be aroused
By my confession
Unless you don't give a good goddamn about redemption
I know
Christ is coming
And so am I
And you would too if this sexy devil caught your eye
She'll suck you dry
And still you'll cry
To be back in her bosom
To do it again
She'll make you weep
And moan and cry
To be back in her bosom
To do it again
Pray! - 'Til I go blind
Pray! - 'Cause nobody ever survives
Praying to stay in your arms just until I can die a little bit longer
Saviors and saints
Devils and heathens alike
She'll eat you alive
Jesus is risen
It's no surprise
Even he would
Martyr his momma to ride to Hell between those thighs
The pressure is building
At the base of my spine
If I gotta sin to see her again then I'm gonna lie, lie, lie
She'll make you cry
I'll sell my soul to be back in your bosom
Gladly, now please suck me dry
And still you'll cry
To be back in her bosom
Do it again
Pray! - 'Til I go blind?
Pray! - 'Cause nobody ever survives
Praying to stay in her arms just until I can die a little bit longer
Saviors and saints
Devils and heathens alike
She'll eat you alive
My pulse has been rising
My temples are pounding
The pressure is so overwhelming and building
So steady there, Freddy,
I'm ready to blow
What is she - What is she - What is she waiting for?
Pray! - Pray 'til I go blind
Pray! - Pray 'cause nobody ever survives
Praying to stay in her arms just to die a little longer
Saviors and saints
Devils and heathens alike
She'll eat you alive...


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i like the second song version better but the other gives me an excuse to post pictures of milla jovovich.

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oh, btw, KJV:

Rev 22:20
He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:34 am
by IanEye
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I took you down over the tracks when
You wanted some sin
I brought you satin and herbs from
The places I been
Now something tells me you're
Going to use me again
You think you can lay down the how and
The where and the when
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:02 am
by Perelandra
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:23 pm
by IanEye

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 4:51 am
by brainpanhandler
Just when you think things have gotten as weird as they can get, they get weirder yet.
Here I am, a superhero, but it’s deemed irrelevant

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Abyss Creations

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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:59 pm
by brainpanhandler
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They use Real Women to model the clothing and lingerie accessories for Real Dolls. They are real, aren't they?

labia installation

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 8:00 pm
by compared2what?
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Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 12:42 am
by Perelandra
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I miss Eye.

Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:34 am
by compared2what?
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Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 4:17 pm
by OP ED
bph, that's just creepy.

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 5:30 pm
by §ê¢rꆧ
The other night, I don't know in one of the threads someone mentioned Anton LeVay, and some how I stumbled on pictures of Szandora, his supposed daughter-in-law, and I just think she is adorable.
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