Great find. So that's saying that Invisible Children's backers have also been funding the (still Imperialist) pro-AFRICOM propaganda just as they let Invisible Children self-destruct.
Re: Kony 2012
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 3:10 pm
by Nordic
But how true is all that? I saw two red flags in that piece: infowars and Soros.
Two words which don't exactly lend a story credibility.
Re: Kony 2012
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 3:31 pm
by Luther Blissett
Nordic wrote:But how true is all that? I saw two red flags in that piece: infowars and Soros.
Two words which don't exactly lend a story credibility.
I think that the USAID and movements.org State Department links are true. As far as the Soros stuff, I tend to drown that out.
Could this be the start of a new viral ad campaign aimed at exposing the crimes of General Butt Naked?
...sorry.
Re: Kony 2012
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:46 pm
by Luther Blissett
gnosticheresy_2 wrote:
Apologies, gnostic heresy, I didn't see you had already posted this.
Re: Kony 2012
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 5:29 pm
by Project Willow
AhabsOtherLeg wrote:Could this be the start of a new viral ad campaign aimed at exposing the crimes of General Butt Naked?
Re: Kony 2012
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 5:59 pm
by kenoma
The Solemn Rite of Praying Away the Gay:
Laodicean wrote:
So much gay to pray away...
Re: Kony 2012
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:18 pm
by wordspeak2
I know, it's the absolute gayest thing ever; that's another funny-bizarro element of the whole thing. Only southern California could produce...
Re: Kony 2012
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 2:55 pm
by Luther Blissett
For all that we know he could be an already-out bisexual; I don't think it matters if he's gay or not, just that he exposed himself and masturbated in public.
Re: Kony 2012
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:22 pm
by Stephen Morgan
Luther Blissett wrote:For all that we know he could be an already-out bisexual; I don't think it matters if he's gay or not, just that he exposed himself and masturbated in public.
Maybe he was drawing attention to the unjust plight of our disadvantaged naturist community.
Re: Kony 2012
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:28 pm
by Joe Hillshoist
Luther Blissett wrote:For all that we know he could be an already-out bisexual; I don't think it matters if he's gay or not, just that he exposed himself and masturbated in public.
I think it does if he is supporting the Ugandan government who view homosexuality as an abomination that must be cleansed with fire or something equally as nasty.
Uganda's Anti-Homosexuality Bill (often called the "Kill the Gays bill" in the media)[1][2][3] is a legislative proposal that would broaden the criminalisation of same-sex relations by dividing homosexual behavior into two categories: "aggravated homosexuality", in which an offender would receive the death penalty, or "the offense of homosexuality" in which an offender would receive life imprisonment. "Aggravated homosexuality" is defined to include homosexual acts committed by a person who is HIV-positive, is a parent or authority figure, or who administers intoxicating substances, homosexual acts committed on minors or people with disabilities, and repeat offenders. "The offense of homosexuality" is defined to include same-sex sexual acts, involvement in a same-sex marriage, or an attempt to commit aggravated homosexuality. It further includes provisions for Ugandans who engage in same-sex relations outside of Uganda, asserting that they may be extradited for punishment back to Uganda, and includes penalties for individuals, companies, media organisations, or non-governmental organisations that know of gay people or support LGBT rights.
Luther Blissett wrote:For all that we know he could be an already-out bisexual; I don't think it matters if he's gay or not, just that he exposed himself and masturbated in public.
I think it does if he is supporting the Ugandan government who view homosexuality as an abomination that must be cleansed with fire or something equally as nasty.
Yeah, this was why I was joking about Russell's being closeted. Because he is well-funded by some of the most virulently homophobic organisations in existence:
For & Against with Jim Morrison, a news magazine on Here TV (a network that's part of Here Media, which owns The Advocate), reviewed the documentary, pointing out Invisible Children's ties to antigay organizations, such as the National Christian Foundation. The NCF describes itself as "the largest Christian grant-making foundation in the world." Truth Wins Out reports that the organization has disbursed grants to some of the most antigay groups in the country, including Focus on the Family and the Family Research Council.
Ironically, NCF, which donated $135,000 in 2009 to Invisible Children, also helps fund the Fellowship Foundation, which works in conjunction with the fundamentalist shadow organization known as “The Family.” That outfit has largely pushed Christian Ugandan lawmakers to propose a "kill the gays" bill, which would make homosexuality punishable by death.
Invisible Children's tax records also show several churches, private religious schools, and religious organizations like Legacy of a Christian Vision, and the antigay, antiabortion Malachai Foundation. Other donors include several public schools, secular organizations, and liberal individual donors, as well as celebrities like Oprah Winfrey and NFL player Jamal Williams.
The connections with The Family are interesting, explaining in part Kony2012's sympathies with the current Ugandan regime:
GROSS: Now what about the president of Uganda, President Museveni? Does he have any connections to The Family?
Mr. SHARLET: Well, first, I want to say it's important that you said it, yeah, it hasn't gone into law. It hasn't gone into effect yet. So there is time to push back on this. But it's very likely to go into law. It has support of some of the most powerful men in Uganda, including the dictator of Uganda, a guy named Museveni, whom The Family identified back in 1986 as a key man for Africa.
They wanted to steer him away from neutrality or leftist sympathies and bring him into conservative American alliances, and they were able to do so. They've since promoted Uganda as this bright spot - as I say, as this bright spot for African democracy, despite the fact that under their tutelage, Museveni has slowly shifted away from any even veneer of democracy: imprisoning journalists, tampering with elections, supporting - strongly supporting this Anti-Homosexuality Act of 2009.
He's come out just this - just last week and said that this bill is necessary because Europeans are recruiting homosexuals in Uganda, that Europeans are coming in and trying to make Ugandans gay. And he's been rewarded for this because this is sort of where these sort of social issues and foreign affairs issues and free market fundamentalist issues all come together.
GROSS: How did The Family create its relationship with Museveni?
Mr. SHARLET: In 1986, a former Ford official name Bob Hunter went over on trips at the behest of the U.S. government, but also on behalf of The Family, to which - for which both of which he filed reports that are now in The Family's archives. And his goal was to reach out to Museveni and make sure that he came into the American sphere of influence, that Uganda, in effect, becomes our proxy in the region and that relationship only deepened.
In fact, in late 1990s, Hunter - again, working for The Family - went over and teamed up with Museveni to create the Uganda National Prayer Breakfast as a parallel to the United States National Prayer Breakfast and to which The Family every year sends representatives, usually congressmen.
GROSS: What's the relationship of Museveni and The Family now?
Mr. SHARLET: It's a very close relationship. He is the key man. Now...
GROSS: So what does that mean? What influence does The Family have on him?
Mr. SHARLET: It means that they have a deep relationship of what they'll call spiritual counsel, but you're going to talk about moral issues. You're going to talk about political issues. Your relationships are going to be organized through these associates. So Museveni can go to Senator Brownback and seek military aid. Inhofe, as he describes, Inhofe says that he cares about Africa more than any other senator.
And that may be true. He's certainly traveled there extensively. He says he likes to accuse the State Department of ignoring Africa so he becomes our point man with guys like Museveni and Uganda, this nation he says he's adopted. As we give foreign aid to Uganda, these are the people who are in a position to steer that money. And as Museveni comes over, and as he does and spends time at The Family's headquarters in Arlington, Virginia, a place called The Cedars, and sits down for counsel with Doug Coe, that's where those relationships occur.
April 20, 2012? Hitler's birthday? The 111th day of the year in leap years? Seriously??
Re: Kony 2012
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:11 am
by wordspeak2
That, too. I would flinch at no date other than April 20.
But the most curious thing I've seen is that clip I just posted with the interview of Kony and his soldiers acting quite normal and agreeable out in the forest, explaining how the lines against them are all propaganda and they just wish to live under a democracy, rather than a dictatorship.