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barracuda wrote:Anyone who bought a home there in 2004 at the height of the bubble is basically fucked.

Stop it. I can't take any more of these sweeping genenalisations. You win. You're the best.

Thanks. Tell me somethin' I don't know.

barracuda wrote:The property value information is from the link at Zillow.

FYI, former RE market wonk here: Zillow's figures are exactly as useful as a random number generator.

Which is to say, slightly more useful than the BOE's unemployment numbers.

FYI, I've lived an hour and a half away from Murphys off and on for fifty years, and have close family living in Calaveras County. I have first hand experience of what the real estate bust has done to property values out there. I don't have to rely on Zillow except as a ballpark link.

Just one more, you're too funny to ignore...

barracuda wrote:LOL yourself, they might be able to tell you the owners name, right?

Except that wasn't the premise of the argument, was it? Let's put it in the context of the claims you were making:

barracuda wrote:Obviously, I don't know the particulars of Mr. Marshall's mortgage financing. He could be renting for all I know at the present moment, though it's not much of a leap to imagine an experienced 20 year airline pilot might have a picked up a mortgage along the way. I'm speculating, like everyone else. If you'd like to be certain, I suggest contacting one of the local real estate agents in the Zillow listing.

You were so cleverly suggesting that I should go to all the bother of contacting them to get his mortgage details, weren't you? We already know his address details. They don't have details like that, you silly billy, only financial institutions are allowed to know personal, intimate details like that.

Let me put it this way: If you'd like to be certain [Marshall owns the house], I suggest contacting one of the local real estate agents in the Zillow listing.

Okay?

Fuck off.

Or bring me some information that's not a made up story about masked men.

The first thing this story brought to mind for me was a series of similar stories from back in 2001 or 2002. Three soldiers back from Afghanistan, all from the same base I believe. Two killed their families then committed suicide, the third was killed by his wife in self-defense while apparently attempting to do the same. Ring any bells?

barracuda wrote: Fuck off.

Nice.

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operator kos wrote:The first thing this story brought to mind for me was a series of similar stories from back in 2001 or 2002. Three soldiers back from Afghanistan, all from the same base I believe. Two killed their families then committed suicide, the third was killed by his wife in self-defense while apparently attempting to do the same. Ring any bells?

Most combat veterans suffer from extreme forms of post traumatic stress disorder.

They have been trained to be violent.

The necessity of a sudden readjustment to civilian life can be impossible for these men, consumed by nightmares and the guilt of what they have done and the horror of what they have seen.

Pilots aren't in the same category.

Having said that, I am not vouching for the man's mental health.

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Guys, Gals:

This place is becoming unreadable, the bickering back and forth has to stop, seriously, as an objective lurker it really looks bad, real bad. It isnt that people disagree with each other, that is good and healthy, it is that it is increasingly becoming personal and it really takes away from the topics at hand. Lets all try and do a little better eh?



That said would anyone be kind enough to post all the links (8bit?) of where one can read stuff this fellow has written, no audio please, I cant hear well enough to listen to stuff on the computer while at work, but would appreciate any and all links of places I can read where he connects the dots to training facilities, airports used, people involved. Is there a lot of that on the web or do we have to get his book, which I may do anyway.

Thanks in advance.

operator kos wrote:The first thing this story brought to mind for me was a series of similar stories from back in 2001 or 2002. Three soldiers back from Afghanistan, all from the same base I believe. Two killed their families then committed suicide, the third was killed by his wife in self-defense while apparently attempting to do the same. Ring any bells?

Yep, those were likely the result of our military's use of antimalarial drug mefloquine...

http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/ ... ne+leopold

Jason Leopold, investigative reporter and Deputy Managing Editor of Truthout, discusses the standard Guantanamo practice of forcing detainees to take dangerously high doses of potent antimalarial drugs; how the long-lasting psychiatric side effects of mefloquine may have been exploited as yet another “enhanced interrogation” tactic; and how the exacerbated effect of mefloquine on those with PTSD and other mental impairments could explain the 2002 rash of Fort Bragg wife-murders.
http://dissentradio.com/radio/10_12_03_leopold.mp3

http://antiwar.com/radio/2010/12/07/jason-leopold-2/

Alchemy wrote:Guys, Gals:

This place is becoming unreadable, the bickering back and forth has to stop, seriously, as an objective lurker it really looks bad, real bad. It isnt that people disagree with each other, that is good and healthy, it is that it is increasingly becoming personal and it really takes away from the topics at hand. Lets all try and do a little better eh?

That said would anyone be kind enough to post all the links (8bit?) of where one can read stuff this fellow has written, no audio please, I cant hear well enough to listen to stuff on the computer while at work, but would appreciate any and all links of places I can read where he connects the dots to training facilities, airports used, people involved. Is there a lot of that on the web or do we have to get his book, which I may do anyway.

Thanks in advance.

Here ya go ... this is a copy and paste of the info JD posted in PDF...

Scratch-that ... the sentence structure gets broken too badly.

I just went back and saw JDs post so thanks for that Elf (and JD) that is what I was looking for.


It seems to me that it would be an INTRUDER that would want to kill the dog. No?

Killing pets is not inconsistent with family annihilators.

elfismiles wrote: Yep, those were likely the result of our military's use of antimalarial drug mefloquine...

http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/ ... ne+leopold

Jason Leopold, investigative reporter and Deputy Managing Editor of Truthout, discusses the standard Guantanamo practice of forcing detainees to take dangerously high doses of potent antimalarial drugs; how the long-lasting psychiatric side effects of mefloquine may have been exploited as yet another “enhanced interrogation” tactic; and how the exacerbated effect of mefloquine on those with PTSD and other mental impairments could explain the 2002 rash of Fort Bragg wife-murders.
http://dissentradio.com/radio/10_12_03_leopold.mp3

http://antiwar.com/radio/2010/12/07/jason-leopold-2/

Thanks, I hadn't heard that angle. Sounds plausible, although I still don't rule out other possibilities.