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Re: Racist Trump Speaks - Charleston black church massacre
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 7:30 pm
by Searcher08
stillrobertpaulsen » Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:16 pm wrote:American Dream » Sun Jun 21, 2015 1:50 pm wrote:There's a pretty big difference between Marxist-Leninist takeovers of the state apparatus that brought the world the horrors of Maoism and Stalinism, and
Class Struggle Anarchism...
Which beggars the question: why keep the suggestion intentionally vague if this is all just an exercise in theory instead of a mandate to be carried out? Damn right there's a big difference, American Dream. One example actually happened in history, as Wombaticus illustrated perfectly, the other example is imagination. Which is fine by me if someone is just exploring theoretical possibilities. But when you tell people to
"Do anything you can to take back resources from the rich" "Any way we can", whose purpose does it serve to keep the suggestion vague? Isn't this the same tactic racist organizations use to exhort their followers to "
Do anything you can to stop blacks, foreigners, fill-in-your-favorite-scapegoat", then claim innocence when some riled up follower pulls a stunt like Storm Roof did?
Absolutely spot-on.This type of intentional vagueness combined with treating a model (a mental construct) as a physical (ie objective) reality allows plausible deniability.
AD actively promotes Spencer Sunshine's approach for "re-education of undesireables" - which is straight out of the Red Guards / Cultural Revolution, so his handwringing about the evils of Maoism is moot.
Re: Racist Trump Speaks - Charleston black church massacre
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 7:44 pm
by Iamwhomiam
stillrobertpaulsen » Mon Jun 22, 2015 7:16 pm wrote:American Dream » Sun Jun 21, 2015 1:50 pm wrote:There's a pretty big difference between Marxist-Leninist takeovers of the state apparatus that brought the world the horrors of Maoism and Stalinism, and
Class Struggle Anarchism...
Which beggars the question: why keep the suggestion intentionally vague if this is all just an exercise in theory instead of a mandate to be carried out? Damn right there's a big difference, American Dream. One example actually happened in history, as Wombaticus illustrated perfectly, the other example is imagination. Which is fine by me if someone is just exploring theoretical possibilities. But when you tell people to
"Do anything you can to take back resources from the rich" "Any way we can", whose purpose does it serve to keep the suggestion vague? Isn't this the same tactic racist organizations use to exhort their followers to "
Do anything you can to stop blacks, foreigners, fill-in-your-favorite-scapegoat", then claim innocence when some riled up follower pulls a stunt like Storm Roof did?
I'm surprised you ask the question, Robert, "...why keep the suggestion intentionally vague if this is all just an exercise in theory instead of a mandate to be carried out?"
Surely, in this day and age without privacy, anything more said would be chargeable. It is necessarily theoretically vague.
Disinvestment in fossil fuels, for one completely legal "mandate."
Unfortunately, undoubtedly there will be another Roof.
Re: Racist Trump Speaks - Charleston black church massacre
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 8:19 pm
by Wombaticus Rex
Thread is locked per request, let's start a parallel one because this is obviously an important topic.