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justdrew » Fri Apr 22, 2016 12:52 am wrote:

JackRiddler » 21 Apr 2016 21:26 wrote:Sorry Drew, after seeing the results of U.S. policy in Libya, Honduras and the Ukraine -- largely as driven by Secretary Clinton in her self-acknowledged role as the Obama admin's hawk -- and seeing how she talks right now about Israel, Iran, etc., and seeing how her husband with his record is fully her avatar, and seeing the neocons and Kissinger line up for her, you're never going to convince me to vote for the Clinton third term.

well, if enough people go along with you, president trump will applaud your moral purity.

Every part of this countries establishment has been dead wrong about everything for a generation, I can't give a shit about one foolish enabler. Yeah, maybe she 'drove' those policies, or maybe she picked an option off a menu presented her by the establishment, I don't care. All I care is that the republicans loose. That's the only thing left that can be won.

If Hillary wins, the Republicans win.

Ask yourself, who do the establishment Repubs like the least? Who doesn't play ball? Who has said we should make peace with Russia instead of war? Who thinks NATO is an outdated idea?

Answer: it ain't Hillary.

justdrew wrote:

well, if enough people go along with you, president trump will applaud your moral purity.

Every part of this countries establishment has been dead wrong about everything for a generation, I can't give a shit about one foolish enabler. Yeah, maybe she 'drove' those policies, or maybe she picked an option off a menu presented her by the establishment, I don't care. All I care is that the republicans loose. That's the only thing left that can be won.

justdrew, in my opinion, and I could be wrong, but, the asymetrical dichotomy between left and right left the bus terminal a long time ago headed toward symmetry. A culmination and consolidation. This started on a tribal level as people started to gather. Tribes became villages, villages became towns. Towns became regions. Regions became states. States became countries.

Now, its the NWO for real. Instead of restructuring resources over a tribe, a village, a state, a country, we are talking about an entire globe. The ability to send money at the speed of light insures this.

Along with this geographical consolidation comes the consolidation of cultures into the desired symmetry. The most malignant among us is running this process unfortunately. There is a difference between "being in control" and being "malignant" to thine own self. (hey ptb i'm talking to you, where the fuck will you live when this is all over?)

Nordic » 21 Apr 2016 22:16 wrote:

justdrew » Fri Apr 22, 2016 12:52 am wrote:

JackRiddler » 21 Apr 2016 21:26 wrote:Sorry Drew, after seeing the results of U.S. policy in Libya, Honduras and the Ukraine -- largely as driven by Secretary Clinton in her self-acknowledged role as the Obama admin's hawk -- and seeing how she talks right now about Israel, Iran, etc., and seeing how her husband with his record is fully her avatar, and seeing the neocons and Kissinger line up for her, you're never going to convince me to vote for the Clinton third term.

well, if enough people go along with you, president trump will applaud your moral purity.

Every part of this countries establishment has been dead wrong about everything for a generation, I can't give a shit about one foolish enabler. Yeah, maybe she 'drove' those policies, or maybe she picked an option off a menu presented her by the establishment, I don't care. All I care is that the republicans loose. That's the only thing left that can be won.

If Hillary wins, the Republicans win.

Ask yourself, who do the establishment Repubs like the least? Who doesn't play ball? Who has said we should make peace with Russia instead of war? Who thinks NATO is an outdated idea?

Answer: it ain't Hillary.

yeah, well, it's totally plausible we're looking at 20-25 years of kefab between the clintons and republicanism. but is it really a surprise that the people in power are going to have their candidate elected. We get to pick which one of two choices and call this democracy. I ain't saying it's a good thing; there will be bad shit either way, but with one, a bit less, and a few good things thrown out to mollify the base. That's better than a stick in the eye.

I am so frustrated at the right and left calling Donald Trump a fascist or racist. Hillary Clinton is literally one of the worst human beings next to her guru Henry Kissinger.

She has dehumanized LGBTQ and Trans people
She sent 2 million Latino and Black men to prison
She murdered 500,000+ Arab civilians
She HATES gay marriage
She takes millions from corrupt dictators and oil
She is in bed with Wall Street

Donald Trump is against Bush and the neocon wars. He supports Gay and Trans rights. He wants all races in America to rise up and be successful.

For a lot of my 38 years I have been a progressive activist, but I am convinced Hillary and Bill Clinton are pure evil

This is what the pitchforkers have in mind. But, ain't gonna happen. Not by a long shot.


This whole fuckin earth will get scorched before this happens.

A wise reptile of the Rex family said a while back, or something similar, "better to get in tune with the moon than get beaten by it." Or something like that...I think he was referring to the liminal space, I could be wrong, as I often am.

justdrew » Thu Apr 21, 2016 11:59 pm wrote:…I agree she's made some bad choices, but let's face it, elected politicians BARELY run this show at all. I'll take the Lesser Just-Average over the completely fucking evil any day.…

But Bernie's campaign has tapped into a long-coalescing populist movement not represented by the political sphere in some time. That's the important distinction. I'm most excited for a mass movement after the election (because of Citizens United and McCutcheon).

To a lesser extent and in a much different (and in a more threatened by time and truth) way, that's what Trump's campaign mobilized as well.

I think many more civic acts count for more than voting, and I'm looking forward to exercising those rights and responsibilities in the coming years!

Voting has become a safety valve for people to fixate upon while the real machinations of power are going on in secret.

As I've said before, I have no idea where to begin fixing this awful mess. I just try to make things better for the people I can reach.

This was just, well too close to home, to be honest. On reddit, I made the mistake of clicking one of the screenshots of porn posted to a Bernie group. It was a beastiality pic, and if the human being raped was an adult, she was a very, very small adult. This is beyond despicable behavior, but adds a Luciferian shade to the ongoing dirty tricks.

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/p ... pages-porn

Pro-Bernie Facebook Pages Temporarily Suspended After Attackers Flood Pages With Porn

now who would do a thing like that, and surely the backfire likelihood quotient is 100% ?

Lots of her Hillary's supporters, apparently. There were also screen shots of them bragging about it.

Yeah "backfire" because everyone cares sooo much about all the other censorship on FB and other social media (love ya zangtang, but...)

those screenshots could then be recycled as ammunition, no?

- but wha? - I don't do facebook, never have, not once.
About high time i got a shedload of kudos for it, too.

I want to know one thing:

Who the hell are Hillary's supporters?

Seriously. Oh, I'm sure she has them somewhere, but who are the vocal, die-hard, TROOPS? I've never met one. I've never seen anything pro-Hillary posted on Facebook, blogs, or anywhere really.

Novem5er » Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:15 pm wrote:I want to know one thing:

Who the hell are Hillary's supporters?

Seriously. Oh, I'm sure she has them somewhere, but who are the vocal, die-hard, TROOPS? I've never met one. I've never seen anything pro-Hillary posted on Facebook, blogs, or anywhere really.

Nope. All I know are people who dig Sanders. And it's not just "digging" him. He is Obiwan Kenobi.