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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 1:43 pm
by brekin
MacCruiskeen » Fri Jul 08, 2016 11:34 am wrote:
"The gunman" - Is this going to be sold to us as the work of a single shooter, now deceased?



Back to Dealy Plaza.

Resident Jalisa Jackson says: "I think the biggest thing that we've had something like this is when JFK died," evoking the November 1963 assassination of President John F. Kennedy on the city's streets. She calls it "surreal."
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/late ... d-40426075

Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 1:47 pm
by 0_0
the clip from the rooftop reminded me of that one clip of the charlie hebdo attacks.. fwiw (prolly not much)

Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 1:51 pm
by redsock
82_28 » Fri Jul 08, 2016 9:25 am wrote:
Luther Blissett » Fri Jul 08, 2016 5:43 am wrote:Why don't the cops just stay home the next time there's a peaceful protest with no crimes being committed? Whoever said cops need to be at a peaceful protest?


WTO protests 1999. I have said it before but the people that did all that vandalism were not with the protest but were provacateurs. They were there to "test drive" police state tactics for the neoliberal cause. I wasn't nearly as attuned to thinking this way back then. But I could see it in the vandals' eyes. They were not there with the great majority. I'm trying to think of some other thing that happened recently where a number of police here were identified as inciters. Gah. Can't remember it.


G20 in Toronto in 2010, maybe.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-toront ... tion/19928

http://boingboing.net/2010/06/28/canadi ... istor.html

Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 2:26 pm
by MacCruiskeen
Here we go...

A lone gunman or multiple snipers? Confusion persists
Posted at 19:31 BST

The New York Times and other outlets are reporting that Micah Xavier Johnson appears to be the only gunman in the mass shooting that killed five police officers and wounded seven others. Earlier reports indicated that were multiple snipers and three other people were brought into custody.

Dallas Police have not released any additional information about the number of snipers, but Chief David Brown mentioned to [sic] "suspects" at a vigil in downtown Dallas on Friday afternoon.

"This was a well-planned, well-thought-out, evil tragedy by these suspects," he said.

http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-36743033


The people who organised and took part in that march need to start calling for eyewitness accounts, cellphone videos, etc., and they need to start collating and publicising that evidence themselves.

Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 2:35 pm
by 82_28
Yes. I think that is it, redsock.

Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 2:45 pm
by MacCruiskeen
“He wanted to kill officers, and he expressed killing white people, he expressed killing white officers,” Brown said. “He expressed anger for Black Lives Matter. None of that makes sense, "


True. It doesn't even make grammatical sense. But whose fault is that?

Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 2:45 pm
by Luther Blissett
Wombaticus Rex » Fri Jul 08, 2016 9:40 am wrote:
Luther Blissett » Fri Jul 08, 2016 8:43 am wrote:Why don't the cops just stay home the next time there's a peaceful protest with no crimes being committed? Whoever said cops need to be at a peaceful protest?


Laws. Because of laws. Public safety is mandatory. …


It would seem to me that an other alternate system would probably be better at creating public safety. A basic income, decriminalization of most nonviolent crimes, way better healthcare (especially for mental health), community-based mediation teams steeped in feminist theory and queer theory, and communal justice forums for cooperation, grievances, and restorative justice.

Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 2:50 pm
by stefano
MacCruiskeen » Fri Jul 08, 2016 7:31 pm wrote:Meanwhile... "X"? Aha, y'mean like Malcolm X?

In fact no. His second name is Xavier, but the hacks just love making it "X".

Ha! Yes, like Malcolm X... It also seems like an egregious breach of the long-standing American tradition that these villains get called by three names. 'Lee H. Oswald ' just doesn't work, does it?

Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 2:52 pm
by MacCruiskeen
From the Memory Hole:

Police Say Dallas Shooting Was Carried Out by at Least Four Shooters Strategically Positioned on Rooftops
Gabrielle Bluestone
Today 7:09am
Filed to: dallas attack

Authorities say they believe the attack in Dallas that killed five police officers and injured six more was carried out by at least four snipers who positioned themselves in “triangulated locations” on rooftops near the end of a Black Lives Matter parade route Thursday.

There were about 800 protestors and 100 police officers in the crowd when the shooting began around 8:45 p.m., the New York Times reports. Dallas Police Chief David O. Brown says police believe there were at least four snipers positioned above the end of the parade route, specifically targeting law enforcement officers.

“Some [officers] were shot in the back,” Brown said at a press conference Thursday night. “We believe that these suspects were positioning themselves in a way to triangulate on these officers.”

“[They were] working together with rifles, triangulating at elevated positions in different points in the downtown area where the march ended up going,” Brown said. ...

http://gawker.com/police-say-dallas-sho ... 1783327692


Four, three, two, one (dead).

Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 3:01 pm
by 82_28
When I was regrettably watching FOX news last night out of curiosity, they kept showing people saying the shootings were "triangulated". I have to say it's the first real news I have ever seen on FOX and they covered the breaking-ness of it well as far as the stream of information.

Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 3:21 pm
by Rory
IMG_20160708_121830.jpg
I saw this last night and it appears to still be there

https://twitter.com/DallasPD/status/751 ... 01856?s=09

Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 3:25 pm
by seemslikeadream

Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 3:30 pm
by MacCruiskeen
Image
Investigators leave the home of Micah Xavier Johnson in the Dallas suburb of Mesquite, Texas, Friday, July 8, 2016. A Texas law enforcement official identified Johnson, 25, as the sniper who opened fire on police officers in the heart of Dallas during anti-police violence protests. Photograph: LM Otero/AP

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/liv ... oting-live


There'll be 300 fearless investigative journalists in there for you tomorrow, photographing his holiday snaps, fingering through his underwear drawer and assiduously documenting his fridge magnets. Stay tuned for the latest on Micah X and his quest to Kill Whitey.

We'll also be speaking to his (hot) ex-wife, who will describe how he sometimes used profanities and did not always feed the cat.

Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 3:38 pm
by Luther Blissett
The three non-cooperative suspects feels strange to me too. One doesn't really hear that too often.

Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 3:41 pm
by MacCruiskeen
Facebook:

Dallas Police Department
15 hours ago

Tonight it appears that two snipers shot ten police officers from elevated positions during the protest/rally. Three officers are deceased, two are in surgery and three are in critical condition.

An intensive search for suspects is currently underway. No suspects are in custody at this time. We ask that any citizen with information regarding the shootings tonight call 214-671-3485.

We will provide more information once it is available. Please keep us in your thoughts and prayers tonight.

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First four, then two. And always "from elevated positions".

What's weird -- inexplicable, really -- is that NONE of these police communications even mention the only shooter who was actually filmed firing a gun: the guy at street level under the colonnades, the guy who was actually filmed shooting at least one and possibly two officers:

https://streamable.com/pgpb