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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:50 pm
by Luther Blissett
Strong post.

Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:32 pm
by Grizzly
Fnord

Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 11:03 pm
by Novem5er
km artlu » Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:36 pm wrote:This "basket of deplorables" meme appears as one node among many, within layers of complex backfield motion that I feel but cannot see. It's (intentionally?) lame on so many levels.

That's not a word. English doesn't pluralize adjectives. It's conceivable that it has never before been spoken in the history of the language.

Is it possible to imagine the phrase emerging in conversation? The core phrase was introduced within the larger one of "what I like to call the Basket of Deplorables". Really? That all just rolled trippingly off your forked fucking tongue? Of course it did.

I'm estimating something north of 50k paid to a cabal of PR hacks to brainstorm and come up with that. Which would raise the question - to what end? What was the mission statement; the end purpose of its tactical deployment?

(snip)
The first time I hear the news report of her saying "deplorables", my brain instantly went to Les Misérables, which in English means basically what it implies in French, the miserables aka the miserable people. Deplorables is exactly the same thing and it's, like you perfectly said, isn't an English word! Unless Hillary has been reading Victor Hugo or been watching old Broadway acts, I'm not sure where she conjured the word from. I think you are also correct when you say some PR firm came up with it because since when has Hillary really ever spoken off the cuff?

If it's a weird nod to Les Mis, the funny thing is that Trump is using it to rally his ragtag coalition of outside-the-beltway rebels. Marchons, marchons! he bellows to the crowd.

Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 11:09 pm
by JackRiddler
km artlu » Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:36 pm wrote:That's not a word. English doesn't pluralize adjectives.
English doesn't do anything, it's the name of a language.

Speakers pluralize adjectives. It works, so it's fine.

Deliverables, for example. There's a movie called the Incredibles. I wish I was more often among the fuckables.

Doesn't matter what someone's rule book says. Speakers write those, too.

As for my opinion on this triviality (which probably cost no more than whatever her speech writers cost as a word rate) I'm closer to agreeing with this guy:
It was dumb for Clinton to say it aloud, but "bucket of deplorables" is my favourite thing to come of this election.

Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 11:47 pm
by justdrew
Novem5er » 14 Sep 2016 19:03 wrote:
km artlu » Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:36 pm wrote:This "basket of deplorables" meme appears as one node among many, within layers of complex backfield motion that I feel but cannot see. It's (intentionally?) lame on so many levels.

That's not a word. English doesn't pluralize adjectives. It's conceivable that it has never before been spoken in the history of the language.

Is it possible to imagine the phrase emerging in conversation? The core phrase was introduced within the larger one of "what I like to call the Basket of Deplorables". Really? That all just rolled trippingly off your forked fucking tongue? Of course it did.

I'm estimating something north of 50k paid to a cabal of PR hacks to brainstorm and come up with that. Which would raise the question - to what end? What was the mission statement; the end purpose of its tactical deployment?

(snip)
The first time I hear the news report of her saying "deplorables", my brain instantly went to Les Misérables, which in English means basically what it implies in French, the miserables aka the miserable people. Deplorables is exactly the same thing and it's, like you perfectly said, isn't an English word! Unless Hillary has been reading Victor Hugo or been watching old Broadway acts, I'm not sure where she conjured the word from. I think you are also correct when you say some PR firm came up with it because since when has Hillary really ever spoken off the cuff?

If it's a weird nod to Les Mis, the funny thing is that Trump is using it to rally his ragtag coalition of outside-the-beltway rebels. Marchons, marchons! he bellows to the crowd.
It's diplomat-speak, leftover from her years in the state department. French is the language of diplomacy.

Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 1:45 am
by 8bitagent
hillary's polls seem to be collapsing quicker than her collapse at the 9/11 memorial memorializing the collapse of the twin towers.

Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:04 am
by Blue
A very simple explanation for Hillary's physical and mental problems is drugs. She's radiated with mammograms, vaccinated with Prevnar and Pneumovax, given steroids and antibiotics, taking Armor Thyroid and most importantly she is on Coumadin which is Warfarin, aka rat poison.

My father took coumadin for awhile until the effects made him really sick. Nasty stuff. He died of cancer a few years later. Here are some of the side effects:
Coumadin may cause you to bleed more easily, which can be severe or life-threatening. Seek emergency medical attention if you have any unusual bleeding, or bleeding that will not stop. You may also have bleeding on the inside of your body, such as in your stomach or intestines. Call your doctor at once if you have blood in your urine, black or bloody stools, or if you cough up blood or vomit that looks like coffee grounds.

Also call your doctor at once if you have:

pain, swelling, hot or cold feeling, skin changes, or discoloration anywhere on your body;
sudden and severe leg or foot pain, foot ulcer, purple toes or fingers;
sudden headache, dizziness, or weakness;

easy bruising or bleeding (nosebleeds, bleeding gums), purple or red pinpoint spots under your skin;
bleeding from wounds or needle injections that will not stop;
pale skin, feeling light-headed or short of breath, rapid heart rate, trouble concentrating;
dark urine, jaundice (yellowing of the skin or eyes);
little or no urinating;
numbness or muscle weakness; or
pain in your stomach, back, or sides.
Common Coumadin side effects may include:

nausea, vomiting, mild stomach pain;
bloating, gas; or
altered sense of taste.
It's amazing to me how the elite with all of their money and access to information are just plain stupid when it comes to trusting the Medical Industrial Complex.

Re: Hillary Clinton is no longer Dangerous

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:26 am
by Sounder
Yes,- the best healthcare on the planet.

Fill Hillary up with drugs and don't bother to warn her of toxins such as aspartame.

That is some healthcare.

I see she also drinks a lot and is proud of it, but no water.

Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:23 am
by Rory
Diet soda - scourge of the aspiring presidential classes

Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:29 am
by kelley
I trace the origin of this utterance to the animated feature "The Incredibles", fwiw.

Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:36 am
by Novem5er
justdrew » Wed Sep 14, 2016 11:47 pm wrote: It's diplomat-speak, leftover from her years in the state department. French is the language of diplomacy.
Interesting point. Clinton and her devout followers have been accused in the past of being the bourgeois.

Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 10:07 am
by JackRiddler
Jeff Wells wrote:It was dumb for Clinton to say it aloud, but "bucket of deplorables" is my favourite thing to come of this election.

Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 1:23 pm
by Nordic
km artlu » Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:36 pm wrote:
That's not a word. English doesn't pluralize adjectives.
"Reds"

Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 1:26 pm
by Nordic
NeonLX » Wed Sep 14, 2016 2:59 pm wrote:I don't know much about nothin', but I do know that "democrats" and "republicans" are NOT congruous with "left" and "right"...especially not now. Both of the mainstream parties have become essentially status quo, with one perhaps leaning to left and the other leaning to the right...but both are corporate-controlled and war-hungry (same things, I guess).

No real "leaning" now. They're both Republicans. One a neocon and one a paleocon.

Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 1:31 pm
by tapitsbo
Come on Nordic, Trump has big boss neocons on board now (Woolsey!)

Either Trump or Clinton, I predict, will initiate a clamp-down on the Internet where we talk about this stuff. Just as Putin, who I am not exactly a fan of, has.

As for the US warmongering, it has sort of spun out of control. Frankly I think either Trump or Clinton's governments will be worse than Obama's at adding fuel to these fires...