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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:04 pm
by PufPuf93
Burnt Hill » Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:15 pm wrote:
PufPuf93 wrote:In watching the videos of the folks desperately leaving the concert grounds , I was surprised that the PA system was not used by security in a manner to lessen the chaos. Seems like that would be part of a general Safety Plan for that sort of event.
Right this came up earlier in regards to why didn't they cut the lights.
But what would the protocol be for unidentified shooters from unidentified areas?
I am thinking the PA would be used after the shooting had stopped and then as first responders flooded the area.

Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:48 am
by stickdog99
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/16/la ... -says.html

Las Vegas guard Jesus Campos vanished after visiting urgent-care clinic, union leader says

The Mandalay Bay security guard who disappeared last week moments before he was scheduled to break his silence in television interviews has not been seen since he went to a walk-in health clinic, his union president said.

David Hickey of the Security, Police, and Fire Professionals of America (SPFPA) told reporters Friday that he got a text the night before saying Jesus Campos was taken to a UMC Quick Care facility, though he did not specify where or whom the text came from.

A spokesperson at the UMC Quick Care, which has eight locations throughout the Las Vegas area, told Fox News on Monday that they had "heard nothing" about Campos visiting them.

Multiple requests from Fox News for SPFPA to comment on the matter were not returned Monday.

Hickey said he was meeting with MGM officials Thursday afternoon in the hours before Campos’ scheduled television appearances, including one with Fox News.

But when the meeting ended, Campos had fled.

"For the past four days he's been preparing ... we had a meeting with MGM officials, and after that meeting was over, we talked about the interviews, we went to a private area, and when we came out, Mr. Campos was gone," Hickey told reporters, according to Fox 5 Las Vegas.

Hickey said Campos had requested to go public and wanted to tell his story and move on from the Oct. 1 shooting investigation. Police say he was shot just before the crazed gunman killed 58 at music festival on the Las Vegas Strip – though the sequence of events is still in dispute.

Campos was last photographed in public on Oct. 10, accepting an “SPFPA Hero Award” for bravery in the line of duty, while dining with Hickey and others at a high-end Vegas steakhouse. But soon afterward, investigators said that the security guard was shot before the massacre, raising questions about whether the hotel did enough to prevent the bloodshed.

Hickey has said that before he vanished, Campus was looking forward to telling his side of the story.

"Right now I'm just concerned where my member is, and what his condition is. It's highly unusual,” Hickey said Friday. “I'm hoping everything is OK with him and I'm sure MGM or the union will let (media) know when we hear something," he said.



*****

Did he ever even exist?

Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:43 am
by Elvis
Brentos wrote:Campos may have been shot by incompetent cops also has some merit.
I've wondered whether it wasn't the police who fired 200 rounds through the door(s).


"For the past four days he's been preparing ..."
Four days? to prepare? for simply telling interviewers what happened?

or was he rehearsing a rewrite?

Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:26 am
by stefano
Brentos » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:29 am wrote:Yeah, more convincing evidence by authorities of their story wasa source of tbe wife's paranoia in the loomer video.

the one YouTube video on the firing was created by someone with evidently much expertise with auto firing weapons, along with commenters with military experience. That it was not an ar15.
Authorities said he had the ar15 bump stocked,evidently that can change rate of fire, and it can hold 100 rounds. So the amount of rounds fired continuously at least wouldnt rule out a modified ar15. Have no idea about guns myself.
Image

That stock on the rifle on the right, an AR-10, is a bump stock, the one on the left isn't.

Image

Another AR-10 with a bump stock, and a very big magazine, that must be 100 rounds. They work like this:

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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 5:05 am
by stefano
And here's a guy firing 100 rounds with a slide fire stock (the same thing as bump stock, I think). Shooting from 1:05


Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:36 am
by MacCruiskeen
The corporate media have finally condescended to notice:

LA Times:
Jesus Campos, Vegas security guard shot before rampage, appears to have vanished


By MELISSA ETEHAD, RUBEN VIVES and JAWEED KALEEM
OCT 16, 2017 | 07:50 PM
| LAS VEGAS

The story seemed straightforward: The unarmed security guard approached Stephen Paddock’s room on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino, distracting the gunman and potentially saving lives.
With a gunshot wound to his leg, he helped point officers to the gunman's location and stayed behind to evacuate hotel guests.

He was hailed a hero by many, even as the story changed. Twice.

Now, the man that many want to honor and who can help bring clarity about the timeline of the shooting has vanished from the public eye, less than two weeks since the Oct. 1 massacre, which left 58 people dead and more than 500 others injured.

David Hickey, president of the Security, Police, and Fire Professionals of America union, said it had been four days since he last saw Jesus Campos.

"We have had no contact with him…. Clearly, somebody knows where he is," he said.



Hickey said he was with Campos on Thursday, coordinating a series of interviews that the guard was scheduled to give about the attack. They included appearances on the Sean Hannity show on Fox, as well as news shows on CNN, CBS, ABC and NBC. Campos was staying in a suite in a Las Vegas hotel, Hickey said.
Hickey said he was attending a meeting with MGM representatives in one room of the suite as Campos waited with a security guard — hired by MGM — and another union member in the living room.
When the meeting ended about 2 p.m., Hickey said Campos was no longer in the room.
"When I got in touch with the other union member, I was told Campos was taken to the Quick Care" health clinic, Hickey said. He didn't hear from the guard afterward and announced to a scrum of reporters that night that Campos had canceled interviews.

Since the days that Paddock opened fire at people attending a country music festival across from Mandalay Bay, the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department has shifted its timeline more than once.
Initially, investigators said that Campos was shot after Paddock opened fire on the Route 91 Harvest festival concert.
Then, Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said Campos was shot at 9:59 p.m., six minutes before the concert began. Finally, at a brief news conference last Friday, he said Campos was shot by the gunman at 10:05 p.m.
Lombardo's revision on Friday was made a day after MGM Resorts, which owns Mandalay Bay, disputed the department's timeline. In a statement, MGM said the time of 9:59 p.m. came from a hotel report that was created manually and was not accurate. Casino officials said the gunman was firing at concertgoers "at the same time as, or within 40 seconds after," Campos reported the gunfire over his radio.
Lombardo also said the guard had been investigating an alarm for a door that had been left ajar on the 32nd floor, where the shooting occurred. He also said that Paddock had checked into the hotel on Sept. 25, not Sept. 28 as had been previously reported.
The correction raises questions about why it took police 12 minutes to find the gunman's hotel room when officers were already in the building and why they were searching other rooms when they were told the gunman was on the 32nd floor.
According to a former armed security guard at Mandalay Bay, there are supposed to be armed guards patrolling the hallways of the hotel and that Campos was using a device to log in his whereabouts in the casino.
The former security guard, who worked there in the early 2000s, questioned Lombardo's statement that Campos was investigating the open door alarm.
"There was no alarm system for opened doors when I was there," he said, speaking on the condition of anonymity because he was not allowed to discuss security issues. "You know how often people would have to call hotel guests if that was the case?"

One of Campos' co-workers wasn't surprised by his actions. She hopes Campos emerges and talks to the public so that people can honor him for his bravery. "He was always in the middle of what was going down," said the co-worker, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of concerns she would lose her job.
"He's humble and so charming," she added.
Campos had been living in a quiet residential neighborhood in northern Las Vegas. On Sunday afternoon, a man sat in a white truck parked outside the house where Campos is said to live. The license plate on his truck was hidden with a white towel. [Because it was blank?]
He said he had been hired to guard the house and prevent the news media from entering the property. He declined to say who had hired him.


Three "no trespassing" signs clung to the fence and house, with a warning to reporters: "No media on property."

Neighbors, startled by the sight of the man sitting in his truck, said they didn't notice him until last week. "I was going to call police," said Alejandra Andrea, a neighbor who lives across the street.

Friends, co-workers and neighbors who know Campos described him as a private person. Still, Jaime Ruano, Campos' neighbor, also wondered why the security guard has apparently disappeared.
"He's a hero," Ruano said, "and nobody knows where he is."

http://beta.latimes.com/nation/la-na-je ... story.html

Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:38 am
by seemslikeadream
I'd go into hiding too with every Tom Dick and idiot amateur sleuth looking and wanting to talk to me

Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:52 am
by elfismiles
The Vegas shooter, general aviation, & CIA planespotting
by Daniel Hopsicker · Published October 17, 2017 · Updated October 17, 2017

It is a circumstance unparalleled in American history.

Two weeks after a gunman started pouring down fire from a 32nd floor window in Las Vegas on people at a country music festival, police and the FBI remain in the dark over why he did it—and why he stopped.


http://www.madcowprod.com/2017/10/17/ve ... espotting/

Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:54 am
by seemslikeadream
I don't think the FBI is in the dark about this at all

why would anyone think the FBI would tell us what they know or what they knew before this happened

Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:56 am
by MacCruiskeen
stickdog99 » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:48 am wrote:http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/16/las-vegas-guard-jesus-campos-vanished-after-visiting-urgent-care-clinic-union-leader-says.html


"For the past four days he's been preparing ... we had a meeting with MGM officials, and after that meeting was over, we talked about the interviews, we went to a private area, and when we came out, Mr. Campos was gone," Hickey told reporters, according to Fox 5 Las Vegas.
What's that ellipsis? (...) I don't think it just indicates a pregnant pause. It looks like they edited Hickey's sentence.

Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:03 am
by MacCruiskeen
While we're at it, where's Maintenance Man Stephen Shuck? Has he too "vanished"?

NB: Without these two amazingly lucky on-the-spot eyewitnesses to those "200 bullets through the door" we have only the word of the cops and the FBI that any bullets at all were ever fired from room 32-135.
Police said Paddock fired 200 rounds into the hallway.

http://beta.latimes.com/nation/la-na-ve ... story.html

Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:53 am
by elfismiles
Greg Palast interviewed by News3LV.

Former classmate of Las Vegas shooter: 'He was a closed-in kid' (VIDEO)
by Craig Fiegener
Sunday, October 15th 2017
http://news3lv.com/news/local/former-cl ... sed-in-kid
elfismiles » 15 Oct 2017 15:47 wrote:I went to school with the Vegas shooter
Friday, October 13, 2017
By Greg Palast
http://www.gregpalast.com/went-school-vegas-shooter/

Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:58 am
by elfismiles
Image

Note stacks of extended magazines to left of purple column.

Note Paddock's body laying on top of one of the guns.

Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:22 am
by stickdog99
If you can't stand the heat, go on Ellen

Why do I hear someone laughing at me?

Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:33 am
by seemslikeadream
I'm not laughing stickdog ...I think it is fantastic that you are posting here

RI LIVES!

now what do I record Ellen or the Jeff Sessions grilling ?

Do you think the FBI will just drop him off or follow him into the Ellen set?


what I am laughing at is Rory's Clinton 9/11 Truther OP ...now that was some weird conspiracy! :lol:
oh wait a minute ...it's been deleted ..I guess he couldn't take the deafing sound of silence :P