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Re: Jimmy Savile: I'd like to comment but I can't...

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:17 am
by smoking since 1879
RocketMan » Mon Aug 24, 2015 2:00 pm wrote:
zangtang » Mon Aug 24, 2015 3:57 pm wrote:its only just starting.........................

I cut out the picture of Cliff Richard in a purple suit swinging round a lampost after a night out looking vey pleased with hisself recently......
(believe this was pretty much only copule of days after he returned to England 1st time since police raided his home back yonks ago)
passed off as an inpromptu impersonation of gene Kelly 'singin in the rain'
but seem'd there was a massive signalling going on there - pic of Elton wearing purple in the paper the next day
I don't get this talk about Elton John as a pedo. Has he ever been linked to anything like that? Sure his late 70s and 80s were spent in a haze of drugs and lots of young men but kids...? I don't recall ever hearing anything.

As for Elton John wearing purple...? Stop the presses!! :lol2: :lol2:
goggle : 'elton john pedo'
About 94,000 results (for me)

maybe nothing in it. :clown

Re: Jimmy Savile: I'd like to comment but I can't...

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:26 am
by RocketMan
zangtang » Mon Aug 24, 2015 4:15 pm wrote:yep, was going to add proviso about not pointing finger @ elton but stumbled over wording......
just sumting about the timing of the picture (more intuition than rigor)

but there will be some big names that shock people, i'm sure
- think theres going to be some gardening leave, spending time with families, position-considering, suicides, inexplicable illnesses, some lowlevel sacrificial goats
and a fuckload of whispering.

and a lot of mercenary/compromised hacks wheeled out to posit the dangers of moral panic - thats already started in the torygraph.
It's ok, I'm just biased 'cuz I'm bit of a fan. But I honestly haven't heard anything, not a whiff. On the contrary, he's often praised as a genuinely caring and grounded guy in a mercenary business.

As for the Google hits, it's pretty thin gruel if you start going through them. Just the fact that there are under a 100,000 hits is telling, considering how famous he is. Until proven otherwise, I will continue to believe that such doubts are mostly due to his being gay and maybe his addict ways back in the day. He did duet with Cliff Richard, though!

As for Cliff Richard, well... he's been on my shit list at least since he made a pop version of the Lord's Prayer...


Re: Jimmy Savile: I'd like to comment but I can't...

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:36 am
by zangtang
yeah, i daren't even hit play on that - enough pain in my life alreddy!!!

fucker thinks he's going to stand up & sing during a break in Wimbledon again, believe the chorus might be a bit more al fresco than he can handle!

Re: Jimmy Savile: I'd like to comment but I can't...

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:37 am
by smoking since 1879
RocketMan » Mon Aug 24, 2015 2:26 pm wrote:
zangtang » Mon Aug 24, 2015 4:15 pm wrote:yep, was going to add proviso about not pointing finger @ elton but stumbled over wording......
just sumting about the timing of the picture (more intuition than rigor)

but there will be some big names that shock people, i'm sure
- think theres going to be some gardening leave, spending time with families, position-considering, suicides, inexplicable illnesses, some lowlevel sacrificial goats
and a fuckload of whispering.

and a lot of mercenary/compromised hacks wheeled out to posit the dangers of moral panic - thats already started in the torygraph.
It's ok, I'm just biased 'cuz I'm bit of a fan. But I honestly haven't heard anything, not a whiff. On the contrary, he's often praised as a genuinely caring and grounded guy in a mercenary business.

As for the Google hits, it's pretty thin gruel if you start going through them. Just the fact that there are under a 100,000 hits is telling, considering how famous he is. Until proven otherwise, I will continue to believe that such doubts are mostly due to his being gay and maybe his addict ways back in the day. He did duet with Cliff Richard, though!

As for Cliff Richard, well... he's been on my shit list at least since he made a pop version of the Lord's Prayer...

ha, yeah, 'RocketMan', should have spotted that before ;)
i know you could have resisted posting that link if you really wanted to ...
same as i could have resisted clicking the play button .... :|

This didn't get the coverage or discussion it deserved...
"Theresa May: Child sex abuse runs through British society like 'a stick of Blackpool rock'"
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 08172.html

If you're not familiar with this particular teeth-rotting delight...
"These cylinders usually have a pattern embedded throughout the length, which is often the name of the resort where the rock is sold, so that the name can be read on both ends of the stick (reversed at one end) and remains legible even after pieces are bitten off."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_(confectionery)

As much as I deplore the tired old hag, at least she seems speaks the truth occasionally.

Re: Jimmy Savile: I'd like to comment but I can't...

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:41 am
by RocketMan
Sorry. :D That is a seriously fascist spectacle, though.

Theresa May's words do sound more blunt than the usual establishment claptrap. Good on 'er.

Re: Jimmy Savile: I'd like to comment but I can't...

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 10:05 am
by zangtang
I dont like her - I think she's been a disaster on immigration & open borders, but i dont know her, & i dont know what constraints she works under.....

but she would seem to have something on Cameron & Osborne.....& i dont think its smashing the crockery @ the bullingden club bunfight.
- apparently they're scared of her & i want to know what it is. (could/probably be wholly unrelated to the subject at hand)

how they're going to control the fallout i've no idea....but they've been at it for a long time....think its going to be all about momentum.....
just no way they're going to get through this without d notices...........which in my book is pretty much admission of failure !

Hamilton & Lord(!!!!!) Robertson, anyone? - can't wait till they make a re-appearance

Re: Jimmy Savile: I'd like to comment but I can't...

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 10:13 am
by smoking since 1879
zangtang » Mon Aug 24, 2015 3:05 pm wrote:I dont like her - I think she's been a disaster on immigration & open borders, but i dont know her, & i dont know what constraints she works under.....

but she would seem to have something on Cameron & Osborne.....& i dont think its smashing the crockery @ the bullingden club bunfight.
- apparently they're scared of her & i want to know what it is. (could/probably be wholly unrelated to the subject at hand)

how they're going to control the fallout i've no idea....but they've been at it for a long time....think its going to be all about momentum.....
just no way they're going to get through this without d notices...........which in my book is pretty much admission of failure !

Hamilton & Lord(!!!!!) Robertson, anyone? - can't wait till they make a re-appearance
It'll all be kicked into the long grass again I reckon.
It fell off The News Cycle somewhere along the A39 and no one can be bothered to go looking for it.

Re: Jimmy Savile: I'd like to comment but I can't...

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 10:18 am
by zangtang
then we'll just have to rebuild the momentum - but i know what you're saying.

gotta go do the chores, but good stuff here today.

Re: Jimmy Savile: I'd like to comment but I can't...

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 10:26 am
by semper occultus

Re: Jimmy Savile: I'd like to comment but I can't...

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 11:09 am
by tapitsbo
What parties might be supporting the "outing" of the sickness of the brit establishment when this can of worms remains relatively firmly sealed up almost everywhere else in the world?

Re: Jimmy Savile: I'd like to comment but I can't...

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 11:49 am
by smoking since 1879
tapitsbo » Mon Aug 24, 2015 4:09 pm wrote:What parties might be supporting the "outing" of the sickness of the brit establishment when this can of worms remains relatively firmly sealed up almost everywhere else in the world?

No party that i'm aware of, although Labour MP Simon Danczuk had a go.
Has pretty much ruined him though :(

Re: Jimmy Savile: I'd like to comment but I can't...

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 1:31 pm
by zangtang
(labour) Tom Watson MP

Re: Jimmy Savile: I'd like to comment but I can't...

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 4:52 pm
by tapitsbo
i meant more like "deep political" power blocks

i've heard murdoch mentioned but I figure some here more could fill in more context as far as who benefits from this (besides the obvious benefits to those who'd like to know the truth)

in many countries in "the West" this stuff is ALWAYS derailed/swept back under the rug

Re: Jimmy Savile: I'd like to comment but I can't...

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 8:49 am
by smoking since 1879
I think the only thing murdoch is interested in is more murdoch.
Any evidence that he's outing this lot is likely just a warning shot to say 'i got your number, now deregulate more'

Re: Jimmy Savile: I'd like to comment but I can't...

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 1:11 pm
by tapitsbo
yeah I meant I'd heard of him possibly being involved in the original saville media shitstorm

so what groups might have protected/enabled the ongoing leaks?

People haven't been able to get away with this in other countries (I know lots have been killed or harrassed in the UK to)