Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 5:43 pm
I can't even figure out any more which "side" of this "debate" that obtuse piece of sarcasm is directed at.
What you don't know can't hurt them.
https://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/
https://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?t=15152
professorpan wrote:Fer crissakes, people -- if asking someone to explicate on something they are REGULARLY and VIGOROUSLY claiming is real is too much to ask, I give up.
Smackdown withdrawn due to refusal of challengee to participate. Go about your normal business.
Maybe HMW just doesn't get into mud wrestling, with liberal amounts of poo-poo thrown in. One thing I do agree on is that we should all go about our normal business and quit this petty crap. Enough already.professorpan wrote:Fer crissakes, people -- if asking someone to explicate on something they are REGULARLY and VIGOROUSLY claiming is real is too much to ask, I give up.
Smackdown withdrawn due to refusal of challengee to participate. Go about your normal business.
Uh, no. It's more like me shaking my head in disbelief.Wouldn't that sort of be... like the rat asking for a "trap reset" after he got smacked down in his own trap?
Design
I found a dimpled spider, fat and white,
On a white heal-all, holding up a moth
Like a white piece of rigid satin cloth --
Assorted characters of death and blight
Mixed ready to begin the morning right,
Like the ingredients of a witches' broth --
A snow-drop spider, a flower like a froth,
And dead wings carried like a paper kite.
What had that flower to do with being white,
The wayside blue and innocent heal-all?
What brought the kindred spider to that height,
Then steered the white moth thither in the night?
What but design of darkness to appall?--
If design govern in a thing so small.
Good thing too. I was starting to think your name was Professor-Sisyphus!Uh, no. It's more like me shaking my head in disbelief.
You get my vote.I'm coming around to a "Keyword Hijack" subforum, where Hugh's insightful postings pertaining to Nell and The Incredible Mr Limpet be held without (a) hijacking threads and (b) raising the blood pressure in General Discussion.
I for one want to pursue this, and have started serious work on it today, but I understand and respect your concerns and I think they are valid. Also, I am relatively new and people are justifiably suspicious when a new member aggressively heads off in a new and odd direction that upsets other members.Jeff wrote:And I'm of the opinion that this is fracturing the board. Which one might say is another hallmark of successful disinformation.
I'm coming around to a "Keyword Hijack" subforum, where Hugh's insightful postings pertaining to Nell and The Incredible Mr Limpet be held without (a) hijacking threads and (b) raising the blood pressure in General Discussion.
And so begins another insular internet fandom... insulated from "mean" sceptics and trolls and logic... sailing off from reality into the groupthink normalisation of absurd ideas... into inpenetrable insider jargon... into fierce flame wars between sub-sub-sub-factions of the original group...I think understanding the phenomenon is the first step, and then specific examples need to be documented and then the who, when, where and why can be mapped out and identified.
That is the danger. We need to be reminded of that. Thanks.orz wrote:And so begins another insular internet fandom... insulated from "mean" sceptics and trolls and logic... sailing off from reality into the groupthink normalisation of absurd ideas... into inpenetrable insider jargon... into fierce flame wars between sub-sub-sub-factions of the original group...
Why is it not good enough to simply research propaganda in the media without doing so under a contrived banner of "Keyword Hijacking"? Why start from a flawed premise and work backwards?
Yes. Regardless of what may be motivating Hugh, I don't know why this sounds to some so controversial, fractious and "gate-keeperish."orz wrote:Why is it not good enough to simply research propaganda in the media without doing so under a contrived banner of "Keyword Hijacking"? Why start from a flawed premise and work backwards?
I wouldn't want to do that. In fact, I've encouraged him to start threads on the subject when the fancy strikes. My principal grievance is the perpetual disruption and redirection of other members' threads. And something had better be done about that, soon.I actually think a seperate subforum is a great idea, tho of course some kind of threshold would have to be decided on; it'd be unfair to banish Hugh's every post there.