Re: US Presidential Election 2020
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 2:43 pm
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Update: ballots still being counted, reportedly, with most of Maricopa county still pending, a largely Republican/conservative county.
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So, haven't been following the details of the Gov race in Arizona (other than some notable/welcome comments from Kari Lake Re: absurd covid policies), but does anyone find it at all... curious.. that Katie Hobbs, who as I understand it refused any debates with Lake on air, appears to be winning a tightly contested result in a state that is at best "purple", if not "red"?
Keep in mind that Hochul barely beat Zeldin by about ~300K or so votes in a historically BLUE state (or, perhaps more precisely, a BLUE NYC region in an otherwise largely red/'purple' state, though with most of the populous urban areas a deep blue). This may not be an Apples to Apples comparison, but if Hochul barely managed a win in NY, I'd expect Lake, without any broadcast debates with her opponent, wouldn't have as close a race in AZ.
Given the apparent political importance of the AZ results, I find it quite curious indeed.
Lake's 2020 "election denialism" may have worked against her, of course. I don't follow much of the CNN/related blarings -- purposely; I avoid them at all costs -- as I keep my TV off other than occasional streaming service or local sports, so don't have the finger on the pulse of the prevailing narratives on this.
Of course, I'm a cynic that finds any key 'battleground' results to be worthy of deeper scrutiny, in any event.
I've little faith elections are run fairly at all times w/out any shenanigans. Shenanigans from both sides, to be clear [EDIT: Republicans can very well be involved in vote/ballot fraud against fellow Republicans that may not meet their preferred interests for a 'Republican' candidate, for example]. But during certain periods of time, one 'side' [or power faction] may partake more egregiously than the other.
This AP News item raises a few noteworthy points (bearing in mind, of course, the source).
https://apnews.com/article/arizona-gove ... 8f8806c88d
Somewhat related side-note: outward indications are that Trump is now more overtly presenting himself as a Limited Hangout, or otherwise simply allowing his bloated ego to benefit the Democrat Party.
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Update: ballots still being counted, reportedly, with most of Maricopa county still pending, a largely Republican/conservative county.
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So, haven't been following the details of the Gov race in Arizona (other than some notable/welcome comments from Kari Lake Re: absurd covid policies), but does anyone find it at all... curious.. that Katie Hobbs, who as I understand it refused any debates with Lake on air, appears to be winning a tightly contested result in a state that is at best "purple", if not "red"?
Keep in mind that Hochul barely beat Zeldin by about ~300K or so votes in a historically BLUE state (or, perhaps more precisely, a BLUE NYC region in an otherwise largely red/'purple' state, though with most of the populous urban areas a deep blue). This may not be an Apples to Apples comparison, but if Hochul barely managed a win in NY, I'd expect Lake, without any broadcast debates with her opponent, wouldn't have as close a race in AZ.
Given the apparent political importance of the AZ results, I find it quite curious indeed.
Lake's 2020 "election denialism" may have worked against her, of course. I don't follow much of the CNN/related blarings -- purposely; I avoid them at all costs -- as I keep my TV off other than occasional streaming service or local sports, so don't have the finger on the pulse of the prevailing narratives on this.
Of course, I'm a cynic that finds any key 'battleground' results to be worthy of deeper scrutiny, in any event.
I've little faith elections are run fairly at all times w/out any shenanigans. Shenanigans from both sides, to be clear [EDIT: Republicans can very well be involved in vote/ballot fraud against fellow Republicans that may not meet their preferred interests for a 'Republican' candidate, for example]. But during certain periods of time, one 'side' [or power faction] may partake more egregiously than the other.
This AP News item raises a few noteworthy points (bearing in mind, of course, the source).
https://apnews.com/article/arizona-gove ... 8f8806c88d
This here, from CNN, is also of note:Democrat Hobbs leads Republican Lake for Arizona governor
PHOENIX (AP) — Democrat Katie Hobbs led Republican Kari Lake in the race for Arizona governor, but the battle for control of the crucial battleground state was too early to call.
Lake, a former television news anchor, says she would not have certified the state’s 2020 election results. Her television-ready demeanor, confrontations with journalists and combative message for Democrats made the first-time candidate a rising star on the right whose future in national politics is already being debated.
Hobbs, Arizona’s secretary of state, rose to prominence defending the integrity of President Joe Biden’s victory in Arizona, where he eked out the smallest margin of any state he won two years ago.
The results will be a window into the pulse of the electorate in Arizona, a longtime Republican stronghold that turned toward Democrats during the Trump era. They’ll provide insight into whether Biden’s success here in 2020 was a onetime event or the onset of a long-term shift away from the GOP.
Republicans nominated for statewide offices a slate of Trump-endorsed candidates who have promoted falsehoods about the 2020 election as a centerpiece of their campaigns. All trailed their Democratic rivals in initial election returns, which reflected mail ballots received ahead of the election. Those margins were expected to diminish as more ballots were counted.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/02/politics ... erms-cnntvDemocrat Hobbs defends decision not to debate GOP’s Lake in tight Arizona gubernatorial race
By Shawna Mizelle, CNN
Updated 11:20 AM EDT, Wed November 2, 2022
Washington
CNN
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Arizona Democratic gubernatorial nominee Katie Hobbs on Wednesday continued to defend her decision to not debate her Republican opponent, Kari Lake, despite polls showing a close race and criticism from some Democratic allies.
“You know, not only is Kari Lake – has she centered her entire platform around this election denialism, I didn’t want to give her a bigger stage to do that,” Hobbs, a Democrat, told “CNN This Morning.” “She has shown that she’s not interested in any kind of substantive conversation, she’s only interested in creating a spectacle.”
It’s a stance Hobbs has stood by throughout the closing days of the campaign – she told CNN’s Dana Bash last month that such an event wouldn’t move voters – but it has provided an opening for Lake, a Donald Trump acolyte whose campaign has labeled Hobbs a “coward” for refusing to take the stage with her.
Somewhat related side-note: outward indications are that Trump is now more overtly presenting himself as a Limited Hangout, or otherwise simply allowing his bloated ego to benefit the Democrat Party.
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