The Bush Administration Is An Agent Provacteur

[dugoboy]

i think i've about had it today. lets go point by point.<br><br>- in the months after 911 it occured to me how terrorism has no military solution. that the root of terrorism must be struck (hatred fueled by ignorance and CIA instigation). instead all the military solution does is cut off the hydra heads that grow back. there is no poison the well solution.<br><br>-today i watched the house select intelligence commitee hearing on intelligence leaks and media's role. this hearing happened during all the mess with gunfire at the rayburn building (where this hearing was taking place) on friday. it was a very interesting hearing, very informative of the age we are in, with the fascist room by room check of legislature's offices as the backdrop. <br><br>-ray mcgovern says Iran Strike Set For June Or July by using Staged terror attacks across Europe, US "probable" in order to justify invasion on alex jones. <br><br>-on the forums i've been on there's talk of false flag operations on the world cup.<br><br>-i have a feeling kennedy jr's exposure of voter fraud in ohio is just a ploy to make it appear liberals will fix the voting system when in fact they will offer a non solution.<br><br>-the kennedys are part of the PTB and this is a card they can play against the neocons. and maybe this is one big card they can play to thwart a manufactured war with iran because i'm not quite sure they want one. and its also true they couldnt of 'silenced' robert jr or rather they havn't had the chance too.<br><br>-the neo cons were put in power to get the 'dirty work' done whether they know it or not. they are complicitly involved with the dismantling of america in every way from 911 to the PATRIOT ACT to trillion dollar wars to 10 trillion dollar tax cuts (to starve the government of financial resources) to the devaluation of the dollar to economically crippling gas prices to the stand down of FEMA after the levees were blown after hurricane katrina to raise the death rate and to hire mercenaries to grab the guns from the citizenry because of a disproven hoax of snipers shooting at police. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>the bush administration is an agent provacteur made to create chaos.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> a problem that democrats in 2006 and 2008 will promptly provide to the gullible masses a fuzzy little solution to our problems by delivering us another war (all indicators point to yes) and whatever else half promises can be made (pushing for a UN world government and draconian 'environmental protection' laws because of increasing natural disasters like hurricanes, earthquakes, tsunamis and weather modification).<br><br>- no i'm not a 'wingnut'<br><br>-i'm quite sure the environmentalism gore and kennedy jr use as their pet projects will be used by the democrats as the way into fascism. <br><br>-ITS A BIG FUCKING GAME!<br><br>-the solution to our problem is not a violent revolution but a SYSTEMIC SOLUTION thtough reevaluation and correction fueled by honest vigelance.<br><br>what do you all think? <p>___________________________________________<br>"BUSHCO aren't incompetent...they are COMPLICIT."</p><i></i>

[slimmouse]

<br><br> All the peeps yelling this that and the other via the official Orwellian media are the haves.<br> <br> The rest of us are the Goyim/Bovi.<br><br> I kinda like your analysis Dug.<br><br> But how the fork do these guys get away with it ?<br><br> This whole life is a game. In order to progress, one needs to establish your line in the sand.<br><br> This earth should be a paradise. These educators are denying us that paradise. <br><br> Ghandi was right. A campaign of civil disobedience. <p></p><i></i>

[pugzleyca3]

Oh, I agree with you wholeheartedly.<br><br>And I've been called a wing nut just for questioning the Verichip. Was told it was a "conspiracy theory".<br><br>Don't get me started. Some days I feel as if there is no way to beat them.<br><br>"-the solution to our problem is not a violent revolution but a SYSTEMIC SOLUTION thtough reevaluation and correction fueled by honest vigelance."<br><br>This sounds great. But what DOES it mean? <p></p><i></i>

[TroubleFunk]

...What kind of "Correction" do you have in mind? I see reevaluation and honest vigilance aplenty on these pages, and sometimes even out in the real world. <p></p><i></i>

[dugoboy]

something else i noticed is, isn't it just a little curious al gore's 'an inconvenient truth' movie is getting paraded around at undoubtedly the height of the 911 truth movement? and now all of a sudden places like dailykos.com members or even Frank Rich are heralding al gore as the only democrat to hold a 'controversial' position. isnt that funny? <br><br>for the longest time i considered myself a democrat but i would always readily admit that yes the democrats are wishy washy to say the least. thank the DLC. but i cheered that howard dean was made democratic chairman and his 50 state strategy. <br><br>i admit i probably sound crazy but lets ask what environmentalism is really about? the democrats couldn't hold onto an issue unless its handed to them and even then they find a way to appear, honestly, like pussies. <br><br>the democrats could be viscerally standing up for privacy rights, anti-monopoly, ripping bush on many of the obvious 'errors' by bushco we ruminate here on these boards...but they don't. they hold back. BUSH IS AT 31% APPROVAL!! WHAT THE FUCK?<br><br>and yet they stay silent...why?<br><br>the democrats, bill clinton were all about economic globalism and the UN. i understand the idealism. its beautiful BUT those policies are not friendly to us or the world. the UN could save us all we are led to believe. 'how dare bush invade iraq, let the UN do it!' us lefties decried in 2003. <br><br>but we must all ask now, as a society, is the UN really the bastion of the enlightened european objectivism its been made out to be? how about the democrats? what have they ever done to help us? and if they have, for how long?<br><br>why won't the democrats impeach the president? what solutions will they truthfully generate? notice how all democrats ever can commit to say is 'geez the bush administration sure is incompentent!' they don't say anything about what we say...so thusly they are controlled.<br><br>maybe this is something i should post at dailykos.com. this post is directed more at those who seem to still believe theres actually a political choice in this country. the only real difference is the pace at which we are to descend into hell. <p>___________________________________________<br>"BUSHCO aren't incompetent...they are COMPLICIT."</p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=dugoboy@rigorousintuition>dugoboy</A> at: 6/1/06 4:05 pm<br></i>

[dugoboy]

now what do i suggest? this country needs to start up a conversation with itself over the next 5 months about whos really being honest here? in order for continuance of this nation people must conclude that republicans and democrats are like a coin. or like those theater masks. the republicans carry the scary mask while the democrats have the pretty mask. of deception. <br><br>people must realize what is illusion...what is real?<br><br>the question is: will they?<br><br>my answer is that we will have to wait and see what happens after these two 9/11 truth conferences. it depends on if some real networking gets seriously together to present the black unknown knowns to the american people. it also depends on what decisions are made at the Bilderberger Group in Ottawa, Canada and the meeting at the Bohemian Grove in california this summer. <br><br>this is where the big answer for our future lies. the other part of the answer is if people like us here get involved to stop the monster from chewing us all up alive. the reason we are in the predicament we are in is because people refuse to remember their history. an important thing to remember is that we as a nation willingly yet ignorantly walked into this trap.<br><br>its how its always been done. we do it ourselves.<br><br>the question is will we stop it? and i know we can if can drop the bullshit cynicism and solipsism we all love to clothe ourselves in..atleast that how the Generation Xers are like. <p>___________________________________________<br>"BUSHCO aren't incompetent...they are COMPLICIT."</p><i></i>

[pugzleyca3]

I believe the people are aware. You can not bring up most issues anymore without people jumping right in and agreeing that there is something horribly wrong with this country.<br><br>People simply do not know what to do about it. And they are frightened.<br><br>" the reason we are in the predicament we are in is because people refuse to remember their history. an important thing to remember is that we as a nation willingly yet ignorantly walked into this trap."<br><br>We did not. The elections were rigged, we've got people who are pretending to be on one side or the other and they have taken control of our media. Public trust has been betrayed time and time again. People can only be so vigilent and when you have a criminal cabal this big trying to control everything, you can't see the forest from the trees. <br><br>We are not willful and yes, many are ignorant. But why is that?<br><br>It's like saying "you get the government you deserve" when most people know damned well the voting systems are rigged.<br><br>We can't even vote them out!<br><br><br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=pugzleyca3>pugzleyca3</A> at: 6/1/06 4:54 pm<br></i>

[TroubleFunk]

Plenty of people are aware! Even the ignorant are less ignorant than they were 6 months ago. I couldn't possibly have predicted the current shift in the mood of the populace, when 2004 brought me down. <br><br>I don't understand tarring an entire "generation" in some kind of attempt to incite us into vague-yet-useless unrest, and I also don't understand who we're supposed to "raise our fists" to. I mean, my fists are up constantly. The problem is we're spinning in circles waving our fists at phantoms that continue to pop out of the dark at us. Scared? Hell yeah, we're scared. <br><br>We know the whole thing's been stolen, hijacked. <br><br>Us and what army? <p></p><i></i>

[pugzleyca3]

" I also don't understand who we're supposed to "raise our fists" to. I mean, my fists are up constantly. The problem is we're spinning in circles waving our fists at phantoms that continue to pop out of the dark at us. Scared? Hell yeah, we're scared."<br><br>My sentiments exactly. I'm sick of spinning in circles, too. <br><br>And it seems as if many in the so-called truth movement put all this info out there that makes us nuts, then sit there with absolutely no solutions to any of it.<br><br>Makes me want to just go back to sleep for all the good it does to know all this frightening stuff.<br><br>I do what I can, baby steps is all I can do. <br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[johnny nemo]

As a "liberal and proud of it" activist Democrat, I've been very disapponited by the Democratic Party, time and time again.<br><br>But, there are battles that can be fought and won, simply by having different groups with similar agendas join forces.<br>It happens all the time.<br><br>MoveOn.org and the Christian Coalition could not be further apart politically, but recently they both got together and put the heat on the administration to leave the internet alone.<br><br>Fundamentalist Christians, Libertarians and Liberals are currently teaming up to fight against "chipping" the populace.<br>This one is really gonna bite W. in the butt, because many Christians are willing to die rather than get "the Mark of the Beast".<br><br>You just can't let 'em grind you down.<br>Write to your congressman and get them to vote the way you want.<br>Support people in Congress like Cynthia McKinney, who dare to speak truth to power.<br>It's not gonna go our way everytime, and I'm not blind to the massive change in America's mindset since 9/11, but some of the scales are falling from the public's eyes.<br><br>There was plenty of anti-German, anti-Japanese & anti-Communist hysteria before, during & after WWII, but people eventually saw the light, albeit slowly and with great difficulty.<br> <br>Remember....history is ALWAYS made, for good or bad, by motivated groups of individuals.<br>Be it Mao and the gang of four, Hitler and the Brownshirts, John Brown and a few abolishionists or that guy from Nazareth with the disciples......they changed the world. <p></p><i></i>

[pugzleyca3]

"MoveOn.org and the Christian Coalition could not be further apart politically, but recently they both got together and put the heat on the administration to leave the internet alone."<br><br>Yes, I was part of that. But this fight isn't over yet, I don't believe. <br><br>And what I see them do a LOT, is "if at first you don't succeed" hide it in another unrelated bill! <br><br>This is something that really NEEDS a Constitutional amendment so it can be stopped, these riders being attached to unrelated bills. Sorry if I am getting off track here. <br><br>I team up with MoveOn all the time on the issues I agree with them on. And the ACLU. <br><br>And I am sure my Congress people know me on a first name basis by now, from all the letters I've sent them. <br><br>Problem is, I think they are going against the will of the majority of the people on most issues, but our only gauge on this is what the controlled media shows us in public opinion polls. I've seen some polls I knew darned well were bald faced lies. <br><br>What I have to wonder now, is this. Why are the polls actually showing how unpopular Bush is? Are the "people" not the only ones who want him out? And why, if there IS a shadow government which installs our politicians for us as I do believe they do. What's up with that?<br><br>I sound crazy even to myself sometimes, when trying to discuss this outrageous political climate we are living in. <br> <p></p><i></i>

[johnny nemo]

I wonder about the polls, as well.<br><br>I guess that if the media tells nothing BUT lies, then people would stop watching/consuming.<br>So, every now and again they let some truth out, to "release pressure" and preserve themselves.<br><br>The Achilles heel with the PTB/shodow govt. is their arrogance.<br>They think that they've already won, and for the most part, they're right.<br><br>But, the ONLY historical constant about empires is that they fall. <p></p><i></i>

[Sweejak]

One of my Camp Casey friends wrote this: <br>The Noble Cause<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://amybranham.blogspot.com/2006/05/answer-to-question.html">amybranham.blogspot.com/2...stion.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Here is an example of dissolving Right/left parameters:<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://homepage.mac.com/kaaawa/iblog/C2128262602/E20060523184108/index.html">homepage.mac.com/kaaawa/i...index.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Here is an example of fists:<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/7542/peace4tm.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br>I don't know what to do anymore. Are we aware? How aware? Aware enough to realize that taking up arms is likely to end us up at square one. Can we have a strike already! Are ideas like Levy's a ruse to keep us dreaming? I don't know. I'm ready for all possibilities and I'm for everything... in varying degrees meanwhile, keep digging, maybe somethng will crack:<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3272/5c1cg.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=sweejak@rigorousintuition>Sweejak</A> at: 6/1/06 6:57 pm<br></i>

[pugzleyca3]

One thought keeps coming to mind, in how to truly beat them.<br><br>Starve the beast. Take away its food, its money supply.<br><br>However, watch the PTB step in and confiscate our homes and cars and undies, while we end up out on the street and totally helpless at that point.<br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=pugzleyca3>pugzleyca3</A> at: 6/1/06 7:22 pm<br></i>

[dugoboy]

what i meant to say after how the neo cons are destroying america by doing the dirty work of constructing a proto-fascist state in my post up top..is that they (neo cons) will and are taking the fall for it. <br><br>the PTB aren't all on the same page because they are various factions. the democrats are represented by people who favor the slower, smilier creeping fascism. the republicans vice versa. plus add in all sorts of other interests beyond mere politics. my theory is that the neo cons are being used to get shit done because its what they do (think PNAC). from what i've been told the bush administration is purposefully fucking this country up. they aren't incompetent, thats only an incredibly absurd cover story. they knew that an insurgency propagating up would be a direct result of absolutely no fundemental post war plan in iraq. they blew the levees in new orleans.<br><br>what they are doing is creating a huge problem for others to 'figure out', who ever comes to power, they may say to us all that they'll investigate and fix whatever they did..but they won't. what they will do is work off of what the neo cons did and move from there.<br><br>about the polls, well i think what i've said answers that.<br><br>i'm not trying to make people feel helpless, this is just the fucking reality we live in.<br><br>i just saw on CNN 6 UN countries came up with an entrapment plan for Iran by saying do what we want and get rid of your nuclear energy project or they will sanction them. i dunno what to make of this. <p>___________________________________________<br>"BUSHCO aren't incompetent...they are COMPLICIT."</p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=dugoboy@rigorousintuition>dugoboy</A> at: 6/1/06 7:49 pm<br></i>