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New slant on 7/7/5

Postby Peachtree Pam » Sun Jul 17, 2005 2:09 pm

<br><br>This is getting closer and closer to the truth....<br><br><br><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.serendipity.li/london/set_up.htm">www.serendipity.li/london/set_up.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Harry Potter can't get to Hogwart's now

Postby Dreams End » Sun Jul 17, 2005 2:20 pm

I am certainly not one of those who think Harry Potter was written to convert people to the "occult". The evil characters always lose, anyway. But King's Cross, where two of the bombs went off, was where Hogwart's students get on their train to Hogwart's. The newest Potter book came out just a week after this incident and a party there to celebrate the release was cancelled. <br><br>Interestingly (I haven't read the book yet...my wife has), the Prime Minister of England (a muggle, or non wizard) is well aware of all the goings on in witchcraft and wizardry. He even has a picture in his office of one of the higher ups from the Magic realm and calls on them in a time of crisis. Most muggles, of course, in the book are completely unaware of this "magical realm" and those from that realm are given strict rules about keeping it that way. By the way, despite the speculation, I do intend to read the book so if anyone else posts...please alert to possible "spoilers" if there are any other weird connections to real life! <p></p><i></i>
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re: New Slant on 7/7/5 -- Courior set-up Patsies

Postby Starman » Sun Jul 17, 2005 3:36 pm

PeachtreePam;<br><br>WoW -- That's the most compelling scenario I've seen yet: Easy-money drug-couriors set-up to be unwitting patsies. That's actually quite a bit more plausable than the 'terror-drill volunteer' scenario described in the article below -- actually a modification of the premise.<br><br>And of course, there's few dangerous clues left behind to blow the cover or refute the 'official' explanation of Terrorists Who Hate Our Freedoms In Our Midst.<br><br>Now, WHO has the sufficient ideological will, resources, cunning, ruthlessness and motive to cold-bloodedly sacrifice innocent civilians in order to provoke public acceptance of the War on Terror and accomodation to greater 'security' measures that consolidates Police State powers?<br><br>Tho I'm sure the CIA and Britain's MI6 have sufficiently-motivated and well-skilled/experienced capable agents to do this kind of 'job' (and who most likely have done other similiar 'jobs'), I immediately think of Mossad -- call it my suspicious mind. They DO have a long history of false-flag ops, especially staging so-called terrorist atrocities that keep the public's mind focused on terrible suicide bombers who alone are responsible for sabotaging the elusive Peace Process (as a sop to cover a war of occupation and territorial aggression and economic genocide).<br><br>If so -- what a snow-job.<br>Starman<br>PS: Note in the quote by Peter Powers below who was managing the terrorist drill in London on 7/7, he claims a criteria for planning the drills was proximity to Jewish-owned property-businesses and the large number of American Banks -- More US banks in London than in New York -- Isn't THAT a strange detail? What to make of it? But then, why didn't the 'suicide bombers' attack targets of Imperialism and warmongering instead of killing civilians? The fact that train and bus bombings with graphic and spectacular loss-of-life are sure to outrage the public more than destroying banks or ministries lends credance to the set-up patsie theory.<br><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/london_exercise_video.html">www.whatreallyhappened.co...video.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>The 7/7 London Bombings:<br>How to Set Up a Patsy<br><br>A consultancy agency with government and police connections was running an exercise for an unnamed company that revolved around the London Underground being bombed at the exact same times and locations as happened in real life on the morning of July 7th. <br><br>*<br>ITV News interview with Peter Power, Managing Director of Visor Consultants, and a former Scotland Yard official who worked at one time with the Anti Terrorist Branch.<br>Video of interview - 2.3 MB WMV download<br> <br>POWER: Today we were running an exercise for a company—bear in mind now that I'm in the private sector—and we sat everybody down in the city—1000 people involved in the whole organization—with the crisis team. And the most peculiar thing was it was we based on a scenario of simultaneous attacks on a underground and mainline station. So we had to suddenly switch an exercise from fictional to real. And one of the first things is, get that bureau number, when you have a list of people missing, tell them. And it took a long time—<br><br>INTERVIEWER: Just to get this right, you were actually working today on an exercise that envisioned virtually this scenario? <br><br>POWER: Almost precisely. I was up to 2 oclock this morning, because it's our job, my own company. Visor Consultants, we specialize in helping people to get their crisis management response, how you jump from slow time thinking to quick time doing. And we chose a scenario with no assistance, which is based on a terrorist attack because they've been close to a property occupied by Jewish businessmen there in the city, and there are more American banks in this city than there are in the whole of New York—a logical thing to do.<br><br>INTERVIEWER: How extraordinary today must feel for you as it unfolds. You mentioned a few moments ago there our experience with Irish Republican terrorism. And of course it was very different wasn't it because however perverted their behavior, the IRA believed itself to have some sort of code of honour, and tended to issue some kind of warnings, of course they often came too late to do any good.<br> <br>*<br>I got an email with an interesting rumor going around London that just before the attacks, someone was trying to hire Muslims to play terrorists for a terror drill, to try to sneak onto the trains and buses with fake bombs to test out the security. <br>We know the terror drill was real. We know they were running the drill at the exact same stations the bombings actually occurred. <br><br>We know that the accused bombers don't fit the profile of men ready to die for Allah. Indeed, it is reported that some of them were not particularly religious. <br><br>Yet we are faced with the strange claim that these men, one of whom had a new family, and another whose wife was pregnant, carried bombs set on timers and stood there waiting for them explode. <br><br>This makes sense ONLY if they thought they were carrying fake bombs as part of a terror drill. This also explains the nervousness of the man on the bus who had probably just heard of the real explosions and was starting to suspect that the fake bomb he was carrying might not be fake after all. <br><br>If these men thought they were committing suicide, why did they buy RETURN TICKETS ON THE TRAIN? Why did they pay for "pay and display" tickets for their cars at the parking area? <br><br>"Hey you, Muslim person. Wanna make a hundred pounds? You could use that kind of dough, with a new kid and all. We're running a terror drill, and all you gotta do is take this here harmless backpack with a fake bomb inside to work with you tomorrow, just to see if the subway guards catch you or not. Mum's the word, this is national security and all; you can't tell anyone!"<br> <br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: re: New Slant on 7/7/5 -- Courior set-up Patsies

Postby dbeach » Sun Jul 17, 2005 3:55 pm

CIA M-16 and mossad all must get similar marching orders from the big boys...<br>the acts themselves have such similar motus operandi..like they all meet and say ok ..same plans ..same types of patsies..different places..<br><br>planes..trains.. buses ..ships..all loaded with commoners..anybody famous die..? only one comes to mind for me is barbara olson ..wife of teddy olson..<br><br>her phone call on 9/11 is based TOTALY on teddy olsons words<br><br>now ain't he the guy that was the bushevik attorney before scalia ??and ain't he a former intern underscalia..???<br><br>sherman skolnik says bush bribed scalia with $50 million..that is a lot of duck hunting trips<br><br>sherman also says babs olson is alive and hiding in france..so what to believe???<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Disinformation or two patsies woke up

Postby Peachtree Pam » Sun Jul 17, 2005 4:22 pm

<br><br>Starman,<br><br>I am just thinking about the two men shot in front of the hsbc building at Canary Wharf..reported in New Zealand newspapers, and maybe the Australian papers, but never mentioned in Europe:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.wpherald.com/storyview.php?StoryID=20050711-020304-3480r">www.wpherald.com/storyvie...0304-3480r</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>This episode has disapeared down the memory hole..<br><br>My gut feeling is that it is disinformation...but could two of the Muslim patsies have tried to get away, realising they were set up?<br><br>The HSBC building was "attacked" in Turkey.<br><br>What is your take..I know this is all guesswork...<br><br>I always enjoy your posts. <br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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re: Canary Wharf (Unconfirmed) Shootings

Postby Starman » Sun Jul 17, 2005 6:20 pm

Heyia Peachtree Pam;<br><br>Gosh, thanks for sayin' you enjoy my posts. Likewise!<br>Tho as I've apologized before, I know I DO tend to ramble a *bit* and sorta think thru writing -- there's a LOT of posts I never send because to my mind they're too muddy. But thanks for being so gracious!<br><br>Geez-- That report -- I never even saw or heard of it -- apparently only relatively obscure, mostly web-and-alternative sources have reported it, among which Randy Fhodes and Canadian Globe and Mail. I did a google search but couldn't find more.<br><br>It sure seems mighty suspicious. I found a number of unofficial witnesses and 2nd-hand e-mail recipients who confirmed it, among them a Canary Tower worker who didn't work on the 7th but said all his workmates were talking about it and speculating on why no news reports. Sure seems like there WAS a shooting that's being covered-up. Why would they do that?<br><br>Some more info and thoughts below:<br><br>Apparently The Canadian Globe and Mail ran the same story, reported by a New Zealander working for Reuters as told to him by two colleagues who witnessed the shooting.<br>Randi Rhodes discussed this unconfirmed shooting on her webcast (and now satellite) radio show. Some 304 google hits, but few independant sources. The below story confirms this report, however:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=45423">www.unexplained-mysteries...opic=45423</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>This was also reported by callers to a London radio show.<br>London 94.9 has a morning show 9 till 12 hosted by John Gaunt,its a phone in show where members of the public call in and talk about London issues,usually imigration,politics and the general state of the country.Im sure the splendor us getting the Olympics was probably on the agenda but instead we had a nasty surprise that morning.<br><br>On the 7th the show only featured callers who were involved in the choas,traffic info and people basically trying to figure out what was happening.<br>At 10.20ish many callers phoned,emailed and texted to say the've just seen 2 men being shot and killed by Police at Canary Wharf? Who knows? <br><br>***<br>From Liberty Forum board, posted by Rearguard:<br>The Power of Nightmares <<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/3755686.stm>">news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/progr...55686.stm></a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> explores how the idea that we are threatened by a hidden and organised terrorist network is an illusion. <br>**<br>This just in from impatient. The Israeli company ICTS runs the security of the London Underground. <<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=news_news&Number=293779187&page=&view=&sb=&o=&vc=1&t=-1>">www.libertyforum.org/show...vc=1&t=-1></a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> These are the same people who disappeared the 9/11 airport videos at Logan airport (with Israeli mugs on them). <br>****<br>Posted on wikinews:<br>This is a bit “a friend of a friend”… A colleague of mine spoke to two friends of his who both work at the Wharf. Independently they confirmed the shooting, having both seen the snipers and the event. 81.133.208.151 12:55, 9 July 2005 (moved from redirected talk page Uncle G 9 July 2005 13:19 (UTC))<br>**<br>Another interesting wikinews post, not specifically about the shootings but talking to the larger issues of the US/GB history of frame-ups, related to the 'naming' of the bombing mastermind:<br>--quote--<br>Was it a Frame Up????<br>The question must be addressed by anyone who wants to make sure the real killers are brought to justice. The history of frame-ups by government cabals is not a "conspiracy theory"..it's just plain history. e.g. [[3] <<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_Resolution>">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gul...esolution></a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END-->]... that ruse cost the lives of 68,000 American servicemen..then there is [[4] <<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.justicedenied.org/issue/issue_25/brandon_mayfield.html>">www.justicedenied.org/iss...ield.html></a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END-->] and [[5] <<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1312540,00.html>">www.guardian.co.uk/usa/st...0,00.html></a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END-->]. The point,in my opinion, is that the people,the voters, have to actually do some research and think about the story our governments put forth.<br>Now, here is the problem I have with el-Nashar being identified as the mastermind of a band of "clean skins". The known and agreed upon facts are; 1. this man is smart 2. this man has been in Egypt for some time 3. he denied being connected to the bombers and everyone who knows him finds it hard to believe 4. a pile of expolsive materials were found in his bathtub in London.<br>These 4 facts do not compute for me. A;If he is smart he wouldn't leave or have left the explosive crap in his bathtub unless he wanted to get caught. B;If he wanted to get caught, why deny what he did? C;Since he was in Egypt for so long there would have been lots of time to plant explosive crap in his bathtub. D;If he was a terrorist, why would he be teaching at a madrasa school? Isn't that like wearing "I'm a terrorist" flag?<br>Now finally, and this will require some research in order to confirm or refute, (unless one prefers to just resort to name-calling)Britain and the USA(and likely most governments) for 2 centuries have had foreign policies which include and embrace frame-ups in order to move their populations in a particular direction and or to obtain strategic positioning geographically.<br><br>For some inexplicable reason I read a book by Walter Russell Mead of the U.S. Council of Foreign Relations [[6] <<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.cfr.org/bio.php?id=3495>">www.cfr.org/bio.php?id=3495></a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END-->] titled "Special Providence: American Foreign Policy and How it Changed the World"[[7] <<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0375412301/qid=1121542783/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/103-9210223-0846263?v=glance&s=books&n=507846>">www.amazon.com/exec/obido...&n=507846></a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END-->] a book that showed how much of a mushroom I really am; a book which shows that not only do many western leaders know about and accept the war engineering and racial/religious/culteral hate engineering accomplished by frame-ups..they actually believe it is now America's duty to conquer the world and that the end justifies the means. Which explains to me..finally.."why are american troops in Iraq,Kuwait,S Korea,Saudi Arabia,Cuba etc.etc.etc." It's not because the american people want them to be there; it's because the people like Kerry and Bush and Mead want them to be there.<br>WHY??? Because it takes 2 to make a war;so you have to have an enemy; and the easiest way to make an enemy is to move next door and have a bunch of weapons pointed at his kids; imo. But, prove me wrong..read this f___ing book that Meade wrote; and see our western history in a brand new light. Paulrevere2005 </wiki/User:Paulrevere2005> 20:21, 16 July 2005 (UTC)<br>Retrieved from "<<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Talk:Coordinated_terrorist_attack_hits_London>"">en.wikinews.org/wiki/Talk...s_London>"</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>****<br>Posted on Bangingtunes forum:<br>*<br>Yeah I work for HSBC but wasn't in the tower at Canary Wharf, however everyone was talking about it yesterday. No news about it though which is strange.<br>***<br> Nasty, dirty, hard beatz7/8/2005 4:00 PM NEWReply I heard this yesterday but DAC Brian Paddick confirmed that it was an untrue rumour<br>***<br> if you please.7/8/2005 4:00 PM NEWReply Yup, one of the people I heard this from works in the place and couldn't believe that it got zero coverage....as usual boys and girls....there is much more to this whole thing than meets the eye.<br>***<br>I heard this yesterday but DAC Brian Paddick confirmed that it was an untrue rumour<br>**<br>That's even more interesting...especially as one person I spoke to was in there and apparently saw it happen.<br>We will never know the truth about this but in my opinion it's another load of fucking money orientated bollox.<br>**<br>AND, for a glimpse at how utterly, willfully ignorant and proud-of-it some folks are, somebody actually posted:<br>*<br>it wouldnt suprise me much if they target the wharf <br>i think its jelousy lol their country is all sand and mud huts and caves and they hate seeing the developed civilised world doing good for themselves <br>*<br>!!!!???#! What can ya say?<br>*****<br>On <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.syzygyjob.net/warissues/messages/105916.shtml,">www.syzygyjob.net/warissu...916.shtml,</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> viz posted the NZ Herald story has since disappeared. <br>***<br>Starman sez:<br>How odd. 'Nothing here, folks!' <br>Over 8000 people at the towers told to stay away from the windows for hours, and independent e-mails from folks who witnessed the shooting, while the London police deny it? Did they shoot a couple innocent civilians and are covering it up, or as horrible, a couple of set-up patisies that got suspicious and cold-feet, who while under surveillance were then killed to remove loose ends? If the police DID shoot suicide-bomb terrorists, wouldn't they be anxious to tell the public and show what a great job they were doing? This just doesn't smell right.        <br>**<br>On sensiblerection someone posted:<br>Phyctup said @ 4:59am GMT on 11th Jul <br>Actually, my girlfriend's bosses daughter (If that doesn't sound like beginning of an urban myth I dont know what does.....) witnessed something similar. Apparently the suspected terrorist was attempting to board one of the river boats people were using to get home. The police asked him to hand over his bag and he wouldn't so they shot him. He may have been a terrorist or he may just have been trying to conceal his stash of porn, who knows? <br>***<br>And here's an 'odd' posting in wikipedia on terrorism in 1996:<br>January: Provisional Irish Republican Army plants a bomb that police defuse at the Canary Wharf towers in London. <br>*<br>Apparently, Canary Wharf has a LOT of historical and cultural/economic significance -- It would have definitely been a huge symbol as a terrorist target, so one wonders:<br>from:<br><br>The Significance of Canary Wharf<br>Canary Wharf Tower and the HSBC World Headquarters<br>Canary Wharf is not just an office scheme. It has had impact at the local level, at the metropolitan level and, to a lesser extent, at the national level.<br><br>The most immediate impact of Canary Wharf has been to massively raise land values in the surrounding area. This means that the Isle of Dogs, which had previously been seen as suited only for low density light industrial development, has been up-rated. Projects like South Quay Plaza and East India Dock are a direct consequence of this. More recently, Canary Wharf has opened the path for other developments in East London such as Stratford City and Greenwich Peninsula. It has given fresh impetus to already well established residential construction, especially of middle class owner occupier apartments and townhouses.<br><br>At the metropolitan level, Canary Wharf was - and remains - a direct challenge to the primacy of the City of London as the UK's principal centre for the finance industry. Relations between Canary Wharf and the Corporation of London have frequently been strained, with the City accusing Canary Wharf of poaching tenants, and Canary Wharf accusing the City of not catering to occupier needs.<br><br>Canary Wharf's national significance comes from what it replaces: The former docks were, as recently as 1961, the busiest in the world. They served huge industrial areas of east London and beyond. Both the docks and much of that industrial capacity are gone, with employment shifting to the kind of service industry accommodated in office buildings.<br><br>In this respect, Canary Wharf could be cited as the strongest single symbol of the changed economic geography of the United Kingdom.<br><br>Its symbolic importance was bleakly demonstrated in January 1996, when the IRA planted what was at the time the largest bomb yet seen on the mainland, with almost three tons of explosives. It was safely defused. Later that year, they successfully detonated a slightly smaller bomb at nearby South Quay DLR station, killing two people and destroying the South Quay Plaza development and several nearby buildings.<br>*****<br><br>Just speculating -- I lean towards terrorist-patsies who had second-thoughts and were gunned-down before they could escape. But if they were wearing explosives vests, then they couldn't very well have been patsies, like the other bombers might well have been. So, were they gunned-down in a case of mistaken identity, and the police are covering-it-up to spare embarrassment and inflaming racist tensions -- Could you imagine headlines, 'Police Squad Guns Down, Kills Innocent Muslim Civilians' -- "We thought they were Islamofascist Terrorists instead of workmen," says Police Chief David Wilborough. "Too bad -- sorry 'bout that! But we wuz just doin' our jobs!"<br><br>Yah, I can imagine why there might be a news blackout.<br>Very, very odd tho.<br>Thanks for the heads-uP!<br><br>Regrdz;<br>Starman<br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :smokin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smokin.gif ALT=":smokin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Canary Wharf

Postby Peachtree Pam » Sun Jul 17, 2005 6:48 pm

Well, at least we know that they were shot and killed. Then I think it may be two patsies, (maybe out of the official 4) who had realized what was happening and tried to run.....I will have to read the links you posted carefully and come back.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Loose ends

Postby antiaristo » Sun Jul 17, 2005 7:01 pm

Pam,<br>A thought just struck me.<br>I read a Richard Norton-Taylor talk-in at the Guardian last week. I've found him to be reliable and motivated.<br>He was asked about the Canary Wharf shootings and dismissed them as just a rumour.<br>But something else he said has just become very important. He said that Vince Canistrano(sp?) had confirmed that TWO ADDITIONAL BOMBS HAD BEEN FOUND.<br>This is important because they are now calling them home made bombs.<br>Off now to find the URL <p></p><i></i>
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Oh my!

Postby antiaristo » Sun Jul 17, 2005 7:21 pm

It's gone. This is what is there<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>How much of what we are being told and informed about is supressed or altered to maintain calm? For instance I have, from varied sources though not necessarily correct sources, heard that there was an incident at Canary Wharf concerning police marksmen and an assailant that seems to have received very sporadic coverage. There is also the case of the Charles Clarke reportedly informing a French Interior Minister of previous run ins with the police by at least one of the suspect bombers. <br><br>Finally do you feel that words such as "evil", "civilization", "barbaric", and Bush's mention of only one course of action in this new front are the very terms and posistions that rack up tension/share something with the fundamnetalist outlook.The very terms we use to describe events seem indicative of a failure to comprehend and engage with the problems at hand. <br><br>Oh, and if Iraq has nothing to do with it then im a blind Chinese fighter pilot... <br><br>Ted Higgins <br><br><br><br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br> RichardNortonTaylor - 02:11pm Jul 14, 2005 BST (18.1) <br>The Canary Wharf rumour was just that. On Bush's rhetoric i agree it doesn't help merely hinders. as does the term 'war on terror'. <br><br><br><br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?128@190.0FrdgfuxaKN.1@.7747fd2f">talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?...@.7747fd2f</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><br>Anybody else know anything about those two bombs?<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Strange interlude

Postby Peachtree Pam » Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:00 am

Starman, Antiaristo, and other posters<br><br>Let's not forget another priceless bit of info given by none other than the French antiterrorism coordinator,<br>Christophe Chaboud, who said on July 11, that he knew the "nature of the explosives" used in the London bombings:<br><br>It "appears to be military, which is very worrisome", he said, adding: "We're used to cells making homemade explosives from chemical substances"..."<br><br>I'm uncertain of the chronology, but didn't the official story change from "military" (which poses the question, how did these young muslims get hold of military explosives) to "homemade"?<br><br>It's these comments immediately after the event that are so important, before the real perpetrators can rectify mistakes made. The "witness" to the bus bomber, if there even was one on the bus, is obviously a plant, corresponding to the fake "cell-phone" calls on 911. The idea is to bring some "tangible" evidence that there was a Muslim bomber on the bus, just as the fake cell phone calls made the entire hoax seem "real".<br><br>I do not think there was any bomber on the bus, and that controlled demolition truck parked beside it is looking more and more suspicious. I am beginning to doubt there were any Muslims on the trains, especially after learning that London Transport is run by an "ex" CIA executive. Give me a break. How stupid do they think people are.<br><br>The picture of the "four bombers" just outside the train station proves absolutely nothing. They could all four have turned and walked down the street. Remember, you are only going to be told, and see what MI5 wants you to see, nothing more, but mistakes happen and there are clues: the call to warn Netanyahu in advance...<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Zymphora, going with the drug mule theory

Postby Peachtree Pam » Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:06 am

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The changing story

Postby Peachtree Pam » Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:33 am

This is from OnlineJournal<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.onlinejournal.com/Commentary/071805Chin/071805chin.html">www.onlinejournal.com/Com...5chin.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Sorry I posted the other reply in the wrong place

Postby DrDebugDU » Mon Jul 18, 2005 7:41 pm

Don't know whether any of this is relevant, but let's put it on a pile.<br><br>HSBC bank has been accused of funding terrorist groups as well.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>HSBC, one of Britain's biggest banks, has been accused of channelling tens of millions of pounds to suicide bombers.<br><br>It will be alleged in a court action that an account at a subsidiary of the bank in Saudi Arabia was used to collect and pass funds to organisations which then used the money to help Palestinian suicide bombers and their families. A former Citibank subsidiary will also be accused.<br><br>Among the groups that received the funds is Hamas, whose supporters have carried out scores of suicide bombings against Israelis.<br><br>Money was raised through public appeals in Saudi Arabia with one stating: "Our Palestinian brothers are facing the Israeli war machine and they are defending the third sacred place in Islam - the blessed al-Aqsa mosque.<br><br>"They don't have weapons. Only a few days passed since the al-Aqsa intifada began and already there are lots of martyrs, wounded and orphans."<br><br>According to documents seen by The Sunday Times, the appeals directed donations to a special account, called Account No 98, in at least eight banks in Saudi Arabia including HSBC's subsidiary.<br><br>These accounts were set up at the instigation of the Saudi authorities who required the banks to pass the money on to a fund administered by Saudis. From there it was distributed to organisations including Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad and the al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, and also to designated international terrorist organisations.<br><br>The allegations will be made in a legal action to be launched in the United States by British, American and Israeli lawyers representing 500 victims of suicide bombings.<br><br>The first writ, to be lodged this week, will name a Jordanian-owned bank; further writs are to be filed against at least seven other banks and their subsidiaries, including HSBC.<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.talkgold.com/forum/history/topic/13144-1.html">www.talkgold.com/forum/history/topic/13144-1.html</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>While looking for more stories about Canary Wharf, I came across netnewsasia.com and they had an interesting line which was nowhere else to be found...<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://xs38.xs.to/pics/05292/london-bombs_CW_underground.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br>Canary Wharf closed by the London bombings <br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The night is quiet in the city of the dead</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>Written by Thingfish<br>(...)<br><br>here were rumours that the cops had shot a terrorist in Canary Wharf. This persisted into the evening, despite the fact that no media had reported on it. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The whole of Cabot Square was closed and ringed with tape, as police claimed they’d found a suspicious package</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->.<br><br>(...)<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.netnewsasia.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=64&Itemid=67">www.netnewsasia.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=64&Itemid=67</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>And the only mentioning about a suspicious package on Cabot Square/Canary Wharf is on a messageboard<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>by Jeff Murphy<br>07/08/05 06:57 AM<br><br>People here are pretty spooked out, but from my perspective it was only a matter of time before something happened. Information got clamped down pretty hard which caused sensationalist rumors like "they just shot a suicide bomber in front of Citigroup's building!!" All of the banks have very well developed security and disaster recovery apparatus now so they take care of everything pretty well. Morgan Stanley was the poster child for this during September 11 (remember the head of security Annie?) and the rest have caught up a lot. They ended up evacuating one of our buildings and MS across the street later in the day b/c a bus was parked out front and no one could figure out why; <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>then there was a suspicious package, so they evacuated the rest of the buildings</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->...<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/147116/Main/146896">www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/147116/Main/146896</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>But the official report in the press is:<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>Some of the 70,000 workers at Canary Wharf in London's Docklands were allowed to leave early because of the inevitable travel problems caused by the explosions. Millions of people who work in the capital face difficult journeys home tonight and many booked into hotels.<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=755852005">news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=755852005</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>No news about an evacution of the buildings, suspicious packages or a shooting. People were allowed to leave early is the understatement used in the press after they were requested to remain inside for a couple of hours. <p></p><i></i>
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Postby antiaristo » Mon Jul 18, 2005 7:54 pm

London bomber made one-day Israel visit - official<br>18 Jul 2005 16:05:13 GMT<br><br>Source: Reuters<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L18303603.htm">www.alertnet.org/thenews/...303603.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br> <p></p><i></i>
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