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Joe Hillshoist wrote: ...
Just noticed your post vanlose, from what i have seen this morning on twatter the appointment of a VP means abvsolutely sweet FA to the people on the street. the only thing thats gonna bring them off the street is an end to Mubarak's rule.
Honestly I get the impression he's already gone (not literally left Egypt yet). It just seems to me that something changed in the vibe from twitter and a couple of other feeds overnight. Mubarak is finished whether he realises it or not I reckon. It still might take some time, but he is gone.
What happens next will probably be a battle between international interests and Egyptian ones.
Saudi Arabia slammed protesters in Egypt on Saturday as "infiltrators" who seek to destabilize their country, while a a top Palestinian official affirmed "solidarity" with Egypt...
...That said, Saudi King Abdullah called Mubarak and "was reassured" about the situation in Egypt, the state-run Saudi Press Agency reported.
"During the call, the king said, 'Egypt is a country of Arabism and Islam. No Arab and Muslim human being can bear that some infiltrators, in the name of freedom of expression, have infiltrated into the brotherly people of Egypt, to destabilize its security and stability and they have been exploited to spew out their hatred in destruction, intimidation, burning, looting and inciting a malicious sedition,'" the news agency said.
Saudi Arabia "strongly condemns" the protest, it said.
update 6:
Well its a Sunday morning, this started 4 days ago, and I reckon its only a matter of time before Mubarak is gone.
Checking the twitter feeds this morning and it seems like something has given way, its one of those intangible things tho, could just be wishful thinking.
Right now the Egyptian people are organising Neighbourhood Watch type groups to protect private and public property from looting, they are organising checkpoints to check ID in places. In other places vigilante groups have formed to protect against Mubarak’s plain clothed thugs.
From Sharif Kouddous:
neighborhood watches in Zamalek, Mohandeseen, Dokki & other areas of Cairo. Very organized w shifts, checkpoints
Neighborhood watch very organized w shifts, checkpoints. Men of all ages w sticks, metal pipes, some guns maintaining order
Some have formed makeshift barriers in Zamalek streets. Men armed with metal pipes check people, cars going through.
Walking in Zamalek. Feels like a scene from 28 Days Later. Empty. (Interesting observation – j)
That was from a few hours ago. Latest from Sharif:
My dad’s helping organize citizen checkpoints in Zamalek. Rumor army’s coming soon to secure area but no sign yet
My uncle is spending night in Tahrir. Saw him there this afternoon w/ his standard accoutrements: Egyptian flag & megaphone
Tharir Square may be the key – Midan Tharir or Liberation Square, renamed after the 1952 revolution. If the people can hold it there is no way they will be stopped. Its one of those symbolic things, like saving St Pauls during the London Blitz.
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Finally this translation of the revolutionary manifesto, thanks to The Cynical Arab – Roqayah Chamseddine. (Her site has the original flyer too, check it out.)
During this critical time, while Mubarak is attempting to derail the Egyptians’ Revolution, we call on the National Coalition to stay firm on our demands:
1. Immediate resignation of Hosni Mubarak.
2. The creation of temporary National Gov’t comprised of the people who the Egyptians can trust. The former regime should be excluded from this Gov’t.
New Leadership Responsibilities:
- All political prisoners should be released.
– The accountability of the former regime in respect to policies towards: poverty and torture.
– Freedom to all Egyptians to form their own political factions without governmental interference.
Until all the above demands are met we call on all Egyptians to:
- Call for a general strike starting Sunday the 30th of January, 2011.
– Form a national group in all Egyptian communities to protect public welfare and to face anyone who tries to meddle and destroy our governmental (public) and privately owned properties.
– Do not give the previous regime (i.e Mubarak) and their cronies the opportunity to give a bad picture of this uprising and revolution.
Long Live The Egyptian Revolution
All freedom belongs to the Egyptians.
All sacrifice belongs to the homeland.
Joe Hillshoist wrote:I can barely remember 1991. Its a mish mash of drugs raves and at one point the Australian Rugby Union side winning the World cup. The coup was pretty full on tho. But ... I think thats what Biafra was referring to in his spoken word piece, not specifically maybe, but more the way the old power structures will fight back, and they will.
Every 20 or so years something like this happens. Must be sunspots...
The late 60s (no not just the hippies and what happened in the US), the late 80s early 90s, now this.
Anyway i reckon Mubarak is gone.
Thats it for him - its all over bar the shouting.
Joe Hillshoist wrote:I can barely remember 1991. Its a mish mash of drugs raves and at one point the Australian Rugby Union side winning the World cup. The coup was pretty full on tho. But ... I think thats what Biafra was referring to in his spoken word piece, not specifically maybe, but more the way the old power structures will fight back, and they will.
vanlose kid wrote:gulf war I. [one of my worst days ever.]
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