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Re: The Pedophile File

Postby Jeff » Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:02 pm

sunny wrote:It's killing me that the 'news' media keeps calling this a 'sex scandal' or 'sex abuse scandal' etc. THIS IS A CHILD RAPE COVER-UP SCANDAL.

Sorry to shout but I had to do something so I could stop clenching my teeth in rage.


Yes.

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I errored when calling this a "child sex" case. Any violation of a child is rape. This is a "child rape" case. My apologies.


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If this is really as big and ugly, and familiar, as is now suggested, I expect more abuse of language and fact until the lid gets welded back on.
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Re: The Pedophile File

Postby Laodicean » Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:03 pm

Intuition tells me this may go well beyond the locker room showers of Penn State. Why do I have the feeling this kind of "pimping out" of children Sandusky is accused of may very well lead right to the White House gates? Hunter S. Thompson's investigation of child sex rings going on in Washington immediately came to my mind today. This may in fact be a link.

And...Joe Paterno has always given me the creeps. Covering up for his friend and fellow coach? Or took part as well? This is just disgusting.
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Re: The Pedophile File

Postby sunny » Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:09 pm

Indeed. At least someone is calling it what it is.

I wonder if the big new revelations will even get released. And now that I'm reading about the intimidation of the janitors, I'm wondering about that missing DA as well.
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Re: The Pedophile File

Postby Avalon » Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:34 pm

Scapegoating gay men for the Penn State tragedy

By: Alvin McEwen Friday November 11, 2011 7:39 am



It was bound to happen. I was hoping that it wouldn’t but in hindsight, I shouldn’t have been surprised.

Someone from the religious right is now blaming gay men for the Penn State tragedy.

Peter LaBarbera of the hate group Americans for Truth had this to say:

. . . how many boy victims of homosexual predator Sandusky will end up believing that being homosexual (“gay”) is “who they are”? How many will struggle with sexual identity issues? And how many will be told by LGBT advocates and liberal-minded people just to “accept being gay” as “who they are” because they were “born that way”?

. . . There IS a long history connecting homosexuality to pederasty, and a disproportionate link between homosexuality and pedophilia: why else would so many child molestation victims be boys when only 1-3 percent of the population is homosexual?

LaBarbera has a long history of demonizing gay men for even the most trivial of things, but today is probably the lowest he has ever stooped.

Now some may ask why am I publicizing LaBarbera’s comments. He obviously wants some type of attention and now I am giving it to him.

This is true. But what LaBarbera said warrants attention. Some of us may scoff at his words but we would be wise to remember one thing. In a subtler form, the slanderous notion that gay men want to harm children has been used by organizations – i.e. the National Organization for Marriage – in efforts stop marriage equality.

In a less subtle form, this lie formed the building blocks of fear and hatred which led to that awful bill in Uganda and subsequently the brutal murder of activist David Kato. His murderer was recently sentenced to 30 years in prison.
So yes, LaBarbera’s word warrant attention, but not in the way he desires. LaBarbera’s words deserves attention as a shining example of hatred and ignorance encased in a mindset so blind that it refuses to acknowledge truth. A mindset masked in religious demagoguery and extremism in its most nauseating form.

To whit, there is no link between homosexuality and pedophilia. None whatsoever.

And this is backed by the American Psychological Association, the National Association of Social Workers, the American Academy of Child Psychiatrists and the Child Welfare League of America.

LaBarbera, on the other hand, has no expertise in this area. He has no degrees and has done no research.

He doesn’t even cite any studies.

In layman’s terms, LaBarbera is talking out of his pudgy ass.

What LaBarbera seems to be doing is speaking from an internal pathological need to smear gay men.

The scandal at Penn State is volatile and out-of-control and that is highly understandable. Children have been harmed, quite possibly psychologically scarred for life.

What we all need to do here is pray for them as well as guard our own children against those who would prey on their innocence.

What we don’t need to do allow ourselves to be exploited by someone who doesn’t give a damn about anyone or anything but his own personal prejudices.

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Some good responses in the comments, pointing out that Sandusky is a married man and a father. "Until you can show that he can sleep with adult men, you heterosexuals own him because at least we know he can sleep with women."
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Re: The Pedophile File

Postby 82_28 » Fri Nov 11, 2011 2:07 pm

My pops is teh gay and he's the most moral man I have ever met. Just QED as far as how "they" are going to run with this homosexual angle. In fact, in my experience if there was one "genre" of people who were out to RAPE little boys and girls it would not be gay men or gay anything. It would be alpha males with sick fuck fetishes revolving around complete physical and/or psychological domination over all who pass. In a word: I guess football coach or pastor or. . .

Fuck them, fucking hypocrites.

Also, as to jock culture and how it should be obliterated, I still like football and my father and I are both huge fans of the Denver Broncos -- we text each other feverishly during close games or when something interesting happens etc. When I think back on my fondest memories of my dad with a little football mixed in, it was after watching a game with him on Sunday and then hurrying outside in the waning daylight of wintertime and playing catch in the back yard.

It's the sick fuck right wing authoritarian alpha male brotherhood that exists in every big city and big college town that should be being focused on. But, what do I know, I'm marginally sane and was brought up to give a fuck about other things than myself. Those rioting kids was just a painful paradox to behold and truly a bellwether of how low morality has sunken in the west. As per the right-wing's way and tutelage no one has respect for anything other than self, spectacle and celebrity. And even then, they'll cut their golden children loose when the time is right to save their own hides. This is the problem with authority worship. It is a virtue, as it were, to not know the difference between right or wrong, only who has the power and who does not. Whatever the powerful do to the weaker is what is right.
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Re: The Pedophile File

Postby Allegro » Fri Nov 11, 2011 2:35 pm

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Edit: My introductory paragraph was edited, because my understanding of it was missing :).

In the following essay by Mr. Lindsey (who’s unfamiliar to me) is the reference to Joe Paterno’s membership with Knights of Columbus. Yet, I could verify that reference in only one other essay, Knights of Columbus rise again, published by The Hawk, a student newspaper of St. Joseph’s University.

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The Joe Paterno Story: Musings
by William D. Lindsey | Thursday, November 10, 2011
— links in the original blog entry

    The Joe Paterno story has been told and retold recently, and I’m not sure I have much of interest to add to it now that Paterno has been fired by Penn State. I do, however, have a series of questions/insights/hunches that I haven’t yet formulated as carefully as I hope to do in time. Since these hunches remain in the formative stage, it might be better to call them inchoate musings about the Paterno story than full-blown commentary on it.

    And here they are, for what they’re worth:

    1. As one commentator after another has been noting, there are clear parallels between what Paterno is said to have done and what many Catholic bishops have also done. Paterno is said to have obstructed justice by protecting someone he knew had sodomized a ten-year old boy, who then allegedly went on to rape other children because he was protected by those in authority over him.

    As conservative commentator Rod Dreher puts the point, Paterno did nothing less than what Robert Finn is now under indictment for doing in Kansas City.

    2. And there are other connections that, to my mind, haven’t yet been teased out by news commentators, which make me wonder even more about the striking parallels between Paterno’s story and the Catholic abuse scandal. There’s, first of all, the fact that Joe Paterno is not merely Catholic but a member of the Knights of Columbus.* He’s a member of an organization that many survivors of clerical sexual abuse have considered not their ally but their enemy in their fight to hold Catholic pastoral officials accountable for their behavior in the abuse crisis. (And Jerry Sandusky, whom Paterno protected, has received a coach of the year award from the Knights of Columbus and has been a speaker at Knights of Columbus events.)

    And I wonder what these connections might portend for the Paterno story, and whether they have any explanatory heft at all, as one considers the choices Paterno made when he apparently learned that Sandusky was abusing a minor.

    And, second, there’s the interesting fact that Philip Jenkins, whose ephebophilia theory about the abuse crisis, which argues that clerical abuse is largely the abuse of pubescent boys by gay priests and has given aid and comfort to many apologists for the Catholic hierarchy (including Bill Donohue of the Catholic League), is a professor at Penn State. This past April, when Donohue’s Catholic League issued a full-page ad in the New York Times and then the Chicago Tribune, trying to keep the blame-the-gays meme alive as an explanation for the abuse crisis (and an exculpation of Catholic officials), the ad explicitly cited Jenkins as it argued that 1) most clerical abuse cases do not involve children, 2) most clerical abuse cases don’t stand up to legal scrutiny, and 3) most cases in the news today involve situations decades old (so the current leaders of the church have "solved" the abuse crisis). Donohue issued this ad (and where do the funds for such expensive ads come from, I wonder?) in tandem with the publication of the U.S. Catholic Conference of Catholic Bishops’ latest self-audit of the abuse crisis.

    The people who have far and away the most first-hand data about the abuse crisis —e.g., the folks at the Survivors Network of Abuse by Priests (SNAP)— reject Donohue’s contentions in this ad out of hand. Even so, many Catholic officials still try to run Jenkins’s ephebophilia explanation of the abuse crisis, with its blame-the-gays meme exculpating church officials, up the flagpole again and again, and they persistently cite Jenkins’s 2003 book The New Anti-Catholicism: The Last Acceptable Prejudice as they argue that the Catholic church is being blamed unfairly for how its leaders have dealt with the abuse crisis.

    And I have to muse: isn’t it interesting that a conservative Republican Knight of Columbus at Penn State University, where Philip Jenkins, a professor of history and religious studies, a darling of the Catholic bishops and of Bill Donohue of the Catholic League, teaches, is now found to have replicated the behavior of the Catholic bishops in his response to the abuse of minors by someone under his authority?

    3. And, as long as I’m reaching with these musings (and some readers may conclude, overreaching), I’m going to throw this out there: isn’t it also interesting that, at the same time that many defenders of heterosexual male entitlement are bashing the women accusing Herman Cain of sexual assault, students at Penn State —almost exclusively male students, as far as I can determine from video reports (though, yes, there are old boys of the female persuasion in the crowd, as there always are when old boys run amok)— riot to protest the firing of their beloved JoePa? Right-wing blogger Erick Erickson has even suggested that the media have been focusing on the Paterno story to harm Cain, though precisely how that correlation works out escapes me. If nothing else, however, it does suggest that there’s some common thread to these two stories.

    And for me, that thread is the narrative of patriarchal male power and privilege, of heterosexual male entitlement. We live in a culture in which the unmerited power and privilege of heterosexual men (and of women who collude with this power and privilege, and of gay men who posture as straight) continues to make things happen. To buy cover-ups. To place elite men on thrones. To protect men abusing male minors even while we bash gays and accuse gays of pedophilia!

    But we live in a culture in which this scheme of entitlement is being given a run for its money in an unparalleled way, and so there is more and more pushback in many quarters when the seamy underside of patriarchal power and privilege is uncovered — as it is now being uncovered in the Herman Cain saga, in the story of Joe Paterno, and with the Catholic hierarchy around the world. As this process of pushback occurs, we’re going to continue to see badly educated young men who lean right politically —whose future is invested in patriarchy, or so they imagine— rioting in one way or another, either literally or metaphorically, as happened with some Penn State students last evening when Paterno’s firing was announced.

    And we’re going to see the Bully Bill Donohues of the world continuing to browbeat, threaten, and use the abundant money that seems to fall endlessly out of their bottomless pockets trying to buy cover for religious leaders who promote patriarchal power and privilege and heterosexual male entitlement.

    But we’re also going to see more and more —and more widespread— rejection of the idea that straight men are automatically designated lords, simply because they happen to have penises and use those penises in a way that patriarchal authorities designate as "right." We’re going to see that rejection in more and more sectors of society.

    And this widespread anti-patriarchal cultural development does not bode well for the Joe Paternos of the world. Or the Herman Cains. Or, perhaps, the Republican party. Nor for the Catholic bishops and the Vatican.

< end musings by William D. Lindsey >

REFER: Catholic sex abuse cases; Catholic Church hierarchy
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In one of the two videos below, we find 25% of the Penn State student body is Catholic, and that percentage might equal approximately 10K students, according to the other of the two videos. So, I’m offering these videos as a kind of backdrop for the seemingly weighty impact of catholicism in the area of Penn State as well as the apparent influence that Sue Paterno, Joe’s wife, has had at the university.

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Re: The Pedophile File

Postby Project Willow » Fri Nov 11, 2011 2:51 pm

sunny wrote:It's killing me that the 'news' media keeps calling this a 'sex scandal' or 'sex abuse scandal' etc. THIS IS A CHILD RAPE COVER-UP SCANDAL.

Sorry to shout but I had to do something so I could stop clenching my teeth in rage.


Advocates have been making those arguments for nearly thirty years, they fall on deaf ears.

I don't mind this jock, today...
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2011/11/09/bernstein-you-must-read-the-grand-jury-report/

Grand jury report: http://www.scribd.com/doc/72061109/Grand-Jury-Report-on-Penn-State-Sex-Abuse-Scandal

By Dan Bernstein-
CBSChicago.com Senior Columnist

(CBS) The Devil is in the details.

They hurt to read, I won’t lie to you. You cannot un-know them or un-see them. You will stop multiple times in the 23 pages of the grand jury report, needing to avert your eyes or shudder.

But you have to do it. You have to read every word, every sickening description and every name involved in the institutionalized evil at Penn State. Your opinion about anything going on is invalid if you have not yet done so.

Here it is. Read it.

You are simply not allowed to say “I don’t want to,” or “I can’t handle it.” Jerry Sandusky’s victims and their families endured – and continue to endure — unspeakable horror.

The least you can do is be as informed as possible about the hideousness in Happy Valley. It will sear your soul, and it’s your obligation to confront the truth at its most real and painful. Relying on watered-down characterization of the acts is a cop-out.

Here it is. Read it.

This is not a Sex Scandal, as TV graphics scream. This is not a college football scandal, to be compared and contrasted with point-shaving, cash to recruits or swag traded for tats. This is a deep, ongoing conspiracy to conceal and abet child abuse by a state-run university.

Read about the victim-farm Sandusky created in 1977 (!) under the veil of charity, cultivating vast fields of potential prey. See with your own eyes what he did and how he did it, then have a thought.

Do not dare to call a radio show, send an email, post on social media, or comment at the conclusion of this column until you have taken the time to read every word. Until you do, nothing you think or say matters one iota.

Here it is. Read it.

Familiarize yourself with the unimaginable cowardice of Mike McQueary. Know what Joe Paterno knew, and had to know. Learn about standard operating procedure at the school’s highest levels, and the sway held by football. Inhumane crimes were occurring deep in the hills of Pennsylvania, and merciless men ensured that they would continue unchecked.

Most importantly, we must stop with comfortable euphemisms that ease the pain of confronting these brutal crimes. This is not “horseplay,” or “inappropriate acts,” or even “sodomy.” It’s worse. We have a solemn responsibility to expose these infections to sunlight, trying as hard as we can to understand as much as we can.

You will not think as you did before. You saw the idiot students chanting football cheers last night on Paterno’s lawn, and have heard from the cult of apologists. You will want to kill all of them.

You will want Sandusky torn to shreds by animals behind bars.

Here it is. Read it.

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Re: The Pedophile File

Postby Project Willow » Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:01 pm

These tidbits are probably re-posts, but I felt they warranted a call out of sorts.

http://articles.mcall.com/1988-08-18/news/2651195_1_gramm-president-dukakis-democratic-ticket-bush

Gop Nominates Bush Paterno Rips Democrats Republican Convention
August 18, 1988|by STEPHEN DRACHLER And SCOTT J. HIGHAM, The Morning Call
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A fired-up Joe Paterno, Penn State football coach, standing on the floor of the Louisiana Superdome with the Pennsylvania delegation to the convention, gave the second of seven seconding speeches. He said the vice president is both a leader and a winner who exudes a "quiet, dignified confidence."

With one of his granddaughters sitting on his lap, and other young grandchildren in front of a television in a hotel suite not far from the Superdome, Bush watched as Gramm placed his name in nomination. Gramm mixed praise for the vice president with sharp criticism for the Democratic ticket Bush will face in the fall election.
.......


Yes, the second convention at which Lawrence King sang the National Anthem.
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Re: The Pedophile File

Postby Nordic » Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:16 pm

"He who wounds the ecosphere literally wounds God" -- Philip K. Dick
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Re: The Pedophile File

Postby Simulist » Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:22 pm

Thank you, Nordic. That's simple-enough that even a "graduate student" could follow it.

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Re: The Pedophile File

Postby Jeff » Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:23 pm



Thanks, that was good. I appreciate hearing the odd informed, righteous voice crying from the sports world. (Like, "If I was ESPN and helped create a child-rape enabling monster who *shock* now refuses to behave, I'd be quiet about it too.")

Also: Sandusky was indicted on 40 counts of sex crimes upon minors, yet was released on unsecured bail? (Meaning, he needn't cough up any bail money unless he doesn't show up for court.) Privilege has its privileges.

And hell yes, Nordic.
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Re: The Pedophile File

Postby dqueue » Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:35 pm

Jeff wrote:Also: Sandusky was indicted on 40 counts of sex crimes upon minors, yet was released on unsecured bail? (Meaning, he needn't cough up any bail money unless he doesn't show up for court.) Privilege has its privileges.

I recall hearing he was released on $100,000 bond. But unsecured? Wow. In my (limited) media circles, no reporter mentions that detail. That's telling.

There's also no mention of any evidentiary search warrant. Did cops search Sandusky's home, confiscate computers, etc? Or do they intend to limit this to Sandusky and the perjurers?

This is heartbreaking.
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Re: The Pedophile File

Postby bks » Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:39 pm

Allegro, thanks for posting that!

William D. Lindsay wrote:

And I have to muse: isn't it interesting that a conservative Republican Knight of Columbus at Penn State University, where Philip Jenkins, a professor of history and religious studies, a darling of the Catholic bishops and of Bill Donohue of the Catholic League, teaches, is now found to have replicated the behavior of the Catholic bishops in his response to the abuse of minors by someone under his authority?


Think he's overreaching. Reading the Grand Jury presentment, it is not clear how Paterno "replicated" the behavior of Catholic bishops. The presentment makes clear the following:

1. Paterno alerted his superior [Curley] shortly after Mcqueary reported to Paterno what Mcqueary had seen;

2. Schultz was called into a meeting with Paterno and Curley where Paterno reported "disturbing" and "inappropriate" conduct to Schultz. The characterization here are Schultz's characterizations. Schultz and Curley haven been arrested for lying to the Grand Jury about what McQueary told them [essentially, downplaying it].

SO, one cannot conclude from this that Paterno elided or minimized what had happened. Curley and Schultz KNEW what had happened, because McQueary had TOLD THEM HE SAW A CHILD BEING RAPED by Sandusky. Mcqueary told Paterno that as well, which I don't believe is in dispute. Curley and Schultz have been arrested because they lied [in the gran jury's estimation] about what McQueary told them.

Points being: Catholic bishops hushed up rape, and/or colluded with their superiors and charges to cover it up. Paterno MAY have done that, we don't know, but the grand jury presentment says he told his superiors, who came to know anyway b/c Paterno was responsible for putting them in touch w/ McQueary.

Also: Sandusky resigned in 1999, plainly because he was forced to after the 1998 incident generated that police reported which circulated on the PSU campus. Paterno was very likely the one who did that.

I am not claiming Paterno should not have been fired. OF COURSE he should have, and of course he should have gone to police [whatever that would have been worth]. I don't like him or what he stands for. But his behavior is not [yet to be known to be] the equivalent of the worst behavior of Catholic bishops.

Lindsey again:

But we live in a culture in which this scheme of entitlement is being given a run for its money in an unparalleled way, and so there is more and more pushback in many quarters when the seamy underside of patriarchal power and privilege is uncovered — as it is now being uncovered in the Herman Cain saga, in the story of Joe Paterno, and with the Catholic hierarchy around the world. As this process of pushback occurs, we’re going to continue to see badly educated young men who lean right politically —whose future is invested in patriarchy, or so they imagine— rioting in one way or another, either literally or metaphorically, as happened with some Penn State students last evening when Paterno’s firing was announced.


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Re: The Pedophile File

Postby Peachtree Pam » Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:43 pm

http://deadspin.com/5858636/a-penn-stat ... econd-mile
A Penn State Attorney Who Reviewed The 1998 Police Report Against Jerry Sandusky Also Represented The Second Mile


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In 1998, Victim No. 6 told his mother he had showered with Jerry Sandusky. She called Penn State University police, who interviewed both the boy and Sandusky and prepared a report containing details of inappropriate conduct. PSU's outside general counsel, Wendell Courtney, reviewed that police report on behalf of the school before submitting it to the Centre Country District Attorney. Courtney, who knew what Jerry Sandusky was alleged to have done—and admitted to—continued to represent The Second Mile for another 13 years.

It's not unusual for lawyers to take multiple jobs. But for Wendell Courtney, whose online profile for State College-based McQuaide Blasco states he was "Primary Counsel to The Pennsylvania State University" as well as "Pro Bono Counsel, The Second Mile," it's an extraordinary conflict of emotion, if not of interest. Courtney remained counsel for PSU until last year (he can be seen in this photo bicycling to the Penn State/Wisconsin football game in 2007, along with former University President Graham Spanier) until he was replaced in January 2010 when the school appointed its first fulltime in-house counsel. He continued to represent The Second Mile until this past Monday, when he withdrew as the scandal blew up.

There's nothing professionally wrong with representing a nonprofit organization for kids headed by a man who was accused of but not charged with abusing a child. But it doesn't look good, and Courtney knew that when he tried to deny his association with The Second Mile. This week, in response to his inclusion in the grand jury presentment, Courtney claimed he had only begun his work for The Second Mile in 2009, instead of prior to 1998. Today the Pennsylvania Attorney General's office rebutted that claim.

"It's clear from the findings of the grand jury that Mr. Courtney had direct dealings with both Penn State and The Second Mile and he had knowledge and was aware of the 1998 incident," said Nils Fredericksen, a spokesman for the AG. "The grand jury findings are based on evidence and testimony. There's no dispute he had interaction with both [Penn State and The Second Mile]."



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Re: The Pedophile File

Postby sunny » Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:47 pm

Motherfucker. Privilege does indeed have it's ass covered.
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