Opus Dei Conspiracy Spy Teams-Hit Squads in USA: Madsen

[mother]

I assume the link to the Opus Dei article provided by 1Tal was to demonstrate what I was sad about, and not meaning to call Novus Ordo Catholicism The whore of Babylon. That it was merely to illustrate that it is acceptable to make such statements against Catholics these days, that had this been about B'Nai B'rith protests of anti-semitism would have erupted. It appears hopeless to learn computer skills which would allow for a more respectable, scholarly effect, instead of, well, you know. +++ <p></p><i></i>

[robertdreed]

Timothy Ross, the BBC journalist who was mentioned as following the story on heroin in Colombia, now works with abused children in that country <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://wakingbear.com/colombia1.htm">wakingbear.com/colombia1.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br> <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/world/20031001-0358-colombia-childprostitution.html">www.signonsandiego.com/ne...ution.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=robertdreed>robertdreed</A> at: 10/24/05 1:10 am<br></i>

[albion]

Thanks RDR, you just saved me four thousand bucks.<br><br>(p.s. I'd help with the cache, but I'm not smart that way.) <p></p><i></i>

[robertdreed]

Oh, there's much more in <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Whitewash</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->. All that material on Cardinal Trujillo, and some of his archbishops, and Opus Dei...all that and more. <p></p><i></i>

[emad]

slush funds run under the mantle of the pedophile masonic cult the P2 Lodge. Expect to hear a whole lot more about it when the God's Banker trial resumes in Rome next month.<br><br>Including all the many background sources that were never archived onto the internet that relate to the original UK reporting of the fall of both Ambrosiano and the Vatican Bank, plus Bush1's subsequent immunity from prosecution deal for Marcinkus. <br><br>NB The litigants in the Calvi murder trial were reported earlier this month as stating their intent to subpoena Marcinkus as part of their defence plea, raising the question of whether Bush1 may also face a similar action.<br><br>The 1982 Ambrosiano bankruptcy co-incided with the banning of Opus Dei activists from UK public life after the London pedophile brothel run by the Children of God cult was busted and found to have been a key element in UK bent spooks' and cops' operations. Key elements of this have been reported in the collusion inquiry recently heard by Lord Saville into UK complicity with IRA and NI organised crime - the Bloody Sunday inquiry.<br><br>This provides good background into understanding the relationship between Ronald Reagan and JP2 in the unravelling of cold war spin in the period immediately following the death of Harry S Truman in December 1972 to the 1979 election of Margaret Thatcher.<br><br>I have previously quoted some of the non-internet sources that deal with this, namely David Yallop's book 'In God's Name', Piers Compton's 'The Broken Cross', and John Cornwell's 'The Pope in Winter'.<br><br>Other non-internet archived sources include the UK's Defence Intelligence Monitor which ran an excellent series of features on the KGB careers of Reagan, Bush1, JP2 and Calvi.<br><br>All deal with the complex covert strategies, post Suez, that the Soviet Union undertook to infiltrate western public life and take control of the hydrocarbons industry, the financial sector and technological development.<br><br>Opus Dei, like today's lesser Vatican activist slush fund the Sacred Military Constantinian Order of St George, has been a successful vehicle for off-balance sheet activities of the Catholic Church. Unfortunately, the paucity of talent among its top members, and their predelictions for S&M sex under the guise of quasi-religious corporal self-mortification, has been their undoing.<br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[mother]

You've gotta know that I'd gladly help store your info if I knew how. I am going to try again to learn. If they gave courses in the middle of the night, I'd go for it. My only consolation is my Dad, the old mensa man only knows how to forward (emails) I am hoping some one steps forward on your behalf, and soon. Even though I reread The Broken Cross after you said it was hooey, yet I strongly believe it has merit. Emad, is the Pope in Winter online? I disagree that the weird cincure-thingies the Opus Dei use are their undoing, because I believe the AntiChurch (Novus Order) mimics the true church, using all the sacred mysteries, just about everything you can think of in a perverse manner. So naturally the mortification (which is a great example of something hilarious to joke about if you didn't understand it) will be used in a twisted way by Escriva. I really think it's that simple. And they're busy creating lots of new saints for the Novus Ordo; having altered the extremely rigorous conditions for sainthood detailed by one of the authors you cited, Woodward? They havn't been undone yet, possibly because the Chair of Peter is empty (sedevacante) PiusXII told Escriva to bug off repeatedly; but he was persistant and outlived The Holy Father and was just the thing for JP2's Vatican. <p></p><i></i>

[banned]

I just don't know why people give it so much attention, as I've said before the Jesuits wore them for years without anyone commenting on it.<br><br>Self mortification even to the point of flagellation was, if not common, an accepted monastic practice.<br><br>"Mortificatio" may not be your cup of java, or mine, but it doesn't make them sinister.<br><br>Growing up Catholic pre-Vatican II, I read a lot of "Lives of the Saints" that seemed, OK, IS extreme. Self flagellation, wearing hair shirts, I can't remember now if it was St. Teresa of Avila or St. Catherine who used to drink the water she washed lepers in. (Being a very squicky child--I thought if you sat on a toilet seat you DIED--that one's stuck with me <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :x --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/sick.gif ALT=":x"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> ).<br><br>The Stylite hermits (remember St. Simon Stylites, my elderly RC brethren?) lived on top of columns. Anchorites lived inside walled enclosures. The Discalced Carmelites went barefoot which, in the winter, cannot have been fun.<br><br>Sure, we can say all those folks were clinical masochists, or (the column/wall dudes) a good half bubble off plumb, but in their time, nobody called the paramedics to run them over to the nearest bughouse.<br><br>There's a lot of icky stuff about The Penguins of God, but the cilice isn't anything to...er...beat them up over <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

[Homeless Halo]

I wasn't trying to give it a "hard time", personally. I really do think its just another example of kinky S&M type reaction to the sexual repression represented by Holy Mother Church. Lets you get some of your stress out in another fashion.<br><br>Personally, I'd like to know where I can get one.<br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :smokin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smokin.gif ALT=":smokin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

[banned]

...all it is is barbed wire. You put it on your upper thigh with the barbs facing inward and wear it a couple of hours a day.<br><br>Call an older Jebby, they'll tell you. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

[mother]

Mortification for the sake of saving the world is too complicated for someone like me to explain, yet it is fascinating and awesome if you really study it. But none of the Holy saints ever, ever insisted anybody else do it like old Escriva did to his cult followers; their desire to suffer along with Christ was so intense, and it must be added that in order to have been declared saints the miracles produced by these servents of God were absolutely stupendous, incredibly beautiful. But you banned and Halo, cross my heart, give me attacks of laughter, you brighten my day. If you ever become naughty enough to be sent to the RI Fire pit, I will visit in oreder to console you. love, m <p></p><i></i>

[Homeless Halo]

All this talk of binding oneself with razor wire and "sharing in the suffering of our lord" reminds me of those "chastity" clubs downtown, and well, Mel Gibson movies in general.<br><br>Personally, I'm not nearly devout enough to share in the "suffering of our lord". I'm sure he wouldn't want to do it again, either. <p></p><i></i>