I got yer Illuminati right here

[Dreams End]

found this site. Thought I'd share it. I'm only part way through the membership list but this is an EXTENSIVE, sourced article about the history of the Illuminati. The real one. I don't know where the article leads, to global domination or the mists of obvlivion for the illuminati, but it has so many resources within it that it should be of interest. Caveat: I don't know ANYTHING about this writer or site. I just started reading. Input welcome.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Illuminati.htm">www.conspiracyarchive.com...minati.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=dreamsend@rigorousintuition>Dreams End</A> at: 11/5/05 1:11 am<br></i>

[Homeless Halo]

.:IUSTUM NECAR REGES IMPIOUS:. <p></p><i></i>

[Dreams End]

Well, at least one thing gets settled. A description of the lowest level initiate who must recruit for the order says:<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br> The Insinuator cannot pursue either Pagans or Jews, and above all he is to "shun the Ex-Jesuits like he would the plague." <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>And this is interesting. To be initiated as a Major Illuminatus one intoned these words:<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br> "Seek faithful co-operators, but seek them not in tumults and storms; they are hidden in darkness. Protected by the shades of night, solitary and silent, or reunited in small numbers, they, docile children, pursue the grand work under the direction of their Superiors. They call aloud to the children of the world, who pass by in the intoxication of pleasure-how few hearken to them! He alone who has the eye of the bird of Minerva, who has placed his labours under the protection of the star of night, is sure of finding them."<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>That bird of Minerva, of course, being the owl...which is what is at Bohemian Grove (and to my knowledge the owl never served as a symbol of Molech). <br><br>That ended part one. There is no part two yet. In any event, the best sourced thing I've seen on Illuminati so far. Now, where he GOES with it in part two may be another story. <p></p><i></i>

[Homeless Halo]

The Owl is not a symbol of any known variation of Molech, pre-Christianity. They were only ever associated following the post-gnostic realignment of Greek culture. This because Athena became co-mingled with the consort of Molech, known under various names. Its possible the two (females) have similar origins in pre-semitic myth. <br><br>Molech is associated with carrion birds in general, however, and with the night watchman. So owls aren't TOO much of a stretch, just no documentation dating back to Molech as Molech. However, Molech is also, BAAL, Beelzebub, and the Christian Devil "Satan", Prince of the Aeire. Via Merqdat he is associated with Lucifer, via the Christian misunderstanding of Isaiah, and with the "black sun" of various cults via Merqdat as well (which, unlike the christian view of him, is mostly accurate). The nazis knew him in this form, as do offshoots of the Yezidi (Merqdat as peacock), and some corrupted Sufi/Ishmali sects (Al Queda). <br><br>Find it personally fascinating, the anti-Jesuit polemic coming from ex-Jesuits. Probably this is a result of the "lodge" style teaching of the Jesuits which purported culminates in a StarCult/Assassin style nihilist unveiling at the highest levels. Some people would likely overreact to a loss of faith, especially the formerly devout.<br><br>(IUSTUM NECAR REGES IMPIOUS)<br><br>Illuminati indeed. Who needs darkness? <p></p><i></i>

[Dreams End]

It's a fascinating site. Articles from very different sources. did find one Larouche article so far, blaming the New Age movement in America on the british. Found one article blaming all on the Vatican and another one exposing the truth of the anti-growth agenda from a devout Catholic organization! I can't find anything out about who runs the site, but many of the articles are well sourced with footnotes...not always impressed with what is IN the footnotes, but at least they are there. <p></p><i></i>

[Dreams End]

By the way, your bit of latin at the end. I recognized the initial letters, INRI which were supposed to have been affixed above the head of Jesus on the cross, meaning "Jesus Christ, King of the Jews." <br><br>Your tag line there was this:<br><br>IUSTUM NECAR REGES IMPIOUS<br><br>or: "It's just to kill impious kings", an alleged part of the Jesuit vow. I'm curious if that's just an urban legend, which is what it sounds like. Like when I was a kid we were told in hushed tones that the band name "KISS" stood for "Knights in Satan's Service." <br><br>Just curious. <p></p><i></i>

[Homeless Halo]

Urban legend probably. Don't know for sure.<br><br>The phrase is used today by many "occult" and/or secret societies, even "open" ones (like mine).<br><br>In references to the references(above), I've seen this site before, and while I'm amazed at the wealth of information, it strikes me as odd that altogether, its somewhat, well, contradictory. It makes for a decent archive of many opinions though. Just be careful to source check.<br><br>No validation of Jesuit oaths could be made as they are still a "secret" society, whose teachings have never been made completely public.<br><br>If it IS an urban myth, or at least partially, its an OLD one. <br><br>The tag line was part of the "old" old order conspiracy belief of the jesuits in practice, if not in a literal sense being their "vow". A death pact. <br>Modern Cabals, whether fallen or not, often carry such a vow in the innermost lodge(s). For the unfallen lodge, this can be beneficial, as it keeps it "upright" longer. <p></p><i></i>

[elsiecow]

<br>If there's any 'secret society', it's just a bunch of corporate criminals maintaining their 'code of silence', as any group of crooks do.<br><br>Anything else is a red herring. <p></p><i></i>

[Qutb]

So you start a thread about the Illuminati and it's your post number 777.... Coincidence?!? I THINK NOT!!!!!!!<br><br>But despite your obvious and proven nefarious motives, it's still interesting. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>