JFK/RFK disinfo season: Funny assassin movie-You Kill Me

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Postby orz » Thu Jul 05, 2007 3:26 am

at all. is just that once you start seeing
double meanings in random places, you
start seeing them everywhere. hard to
explain.

Haha ok, sorry. Yeah that's true...

Haven't actually seen the last DOA yet, I must! The beginning and ending of the first one are totally insane! And I was surprised by the second, a much more conventionally 'good' film!
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Re: coex systems + exceeding the limit of the absurd =

Postby kristinerosemary » Thu Jul 05, 2007 12:16 pm

orz, final episode is truly amazing movie. most unusual!

mr reed, you are right. i concede defeat and thank you for a
most perspicacious turn of phrase. lovely insight and right
on the mark. so, is off to the beckoning beaches ~!~

robert d reed wrote:You think that the potential for the generation of plural meanings stops after merely doubling?
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1997 funny assassin movie, JFK-MLK-Gosch news year.

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:56 pm

(cross-posting from Disney-Oswald/t thread to stick with thread title)

CIA book publishing has been a known tactic of perception management for decades.
Richard Condon and Robin Moore are prime examples from another age of fictionalizing suppressed history into decoy novels which are then made into decoy movies.

This year's funny assassin movie 'You Kill Me' has the star of 'Ghandi,' Ben Kingsley, cast as the assassin. What a perfect meme reversal, a common element of counterpropaganda.

1997 was the year of another 'funny assassin' movie starring John Cusack, Alan Arkin, and Dan Akroyd, 'Grosse Point Blank' which was sort of a 'Big Chill' with the inclusion of murder added...but in a good romantic way. Kind of like the movie which turned the bombing of Hiroshima into a romance called 'Above and Beyond.'

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Gee, was 1997 another hot year for assassination news? Yes. On both JFK and MLK. There was almost an exoneration of MLK's patsy.

1997-
>4/24/97 The Assassination Records Review Board (AARB) declared the Zapruder film of JFK's murder to be an offical record and mandated federal acquisition of it.

>5/21/97 "CNN: Bullet test results due in King assassination."
(Ballistic evidence never established a murder weapon in the MLK murder case despite the efforts of Judge Joe Brown who was thwarted and given a TV job.)

>5/23/97 A CIA assassination manual was declassified along with evidence of the CIA coup in Guatamala.
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB4/index.html

Now what possible countermeasures to all this were taken?
Well, I think the 1997 funny assassin movie, 'Gross Point Blank' is a likely decoy and conditioner and theme-hijacker.

The movie's motto was:
Tagline: Even A Hit Man Deserves A Second Shot!


"A second shot..." at romance, not a fair trial. Sorry James Earl Ray and Sirhan.

http://www.ram.org/ramblings/movies/grosse_pointe_blank.html
Grosse Pointe Blank is a story with subtle twists and turns and double entendres, just like the title of the movie. John Cusack plays Martin Blank, a professional killer attending his high school reunion...
.....
Blank not only has to deal with his feeling for Debi Newberry (Minnie Driver), but also with the reaction to his opposition to a plan to unionise professional killers (it seems like a satire straight out the Simpsons, doesn't it?). The union is the brainchild of Grocer (Dan Aykroyd) who is sick of embarrassing situations that arise as a result of killers doing different jobs. In retaliation for Blank rejecting his plan, Grocer sics the National Security Agency on Blank. All these characters (and a couple more) converge at Grosse Point, Michigan where the action culminates.


Got the skeletal plot? Good.

The title and plot even mirrors a break in the Johnny Gosch kidnap case written up in, what else, a now defunct publication called Point Blank which was an alternative paper near Des Moine, Iowa where Noreen Gosch says she was contacted by her son in 1997 who returned briefly and told her he couldn't stay since the danger was too great. Hmmm. "Return to Point Blank." Classic meme mirroring. But there's more miroring of the Gosch case here. Read on.

How about the returning killer's mom? Any framing of Noreen Gosch? Any sex taboos?
Yes.

http://www.salon.com/april97/grosse970411.html
He visits his mother, who's been placed in an institution, and because she's so out of it, she doesn't recognize him and actually comes onto him.


Ouch. I hate finding this stuff. But there it is. For the umpteenth time.
"Once is an event. Twice is a coincidence. Three times is enemy action."
Uh, how about 13 or 30 times?

But wait, there's more.
Any mirrors of the once again foiled examination of the murder of Martin Luther King and evidence of James Earl Ray being set up as the patsy?
Yes.

John Cusack's funny assassin character kills a man who tries to kill him and soon he drives off in a convertible, just as Ray was supposed to have done leaving Memphis but, oddly, there were two white Mustang convertibles involved in his frame-up. One of those white Mustang convertibles had evidence linking it to the FBI which a now ex-agent named Don Wilson secreted away as evidence and then revealed later when he couldn't stay silent any longer.
Of course, only a wimp like Driver's Debi would stumble upon Martin at that crucial moment, see the corpse slumped against the locker, and flee in shock and disbelief, but that's "Grosse Pointe Blank" for you. In the movie's final shot, Cusack and Driver, reconciled, head out of the tiny, stifling town in a convertible, suddenly free from the tyranny and evil of Blank's old life.


Is every use of a convertible a mirror of Ray's frame-up. No. But when surrounded by other examples and in the context of the film's 1997 release, very probably.

How about a mirror of that declassified CIA document on the Guatemala coup?
Yes.

Again from the April, 1997 Salon review-
In one early scene, after Marcella has tried to persuade Martin to drop in on the reunion just for kicks, he wonders how to respond to all those dopey questions about what he's been up to all these years. "What am I going to say? I killed the president of Paraguay with a fork. What did you do?"


A South American country, close enough for a decoy but not too close to current news.
The same tactic seems to have been used after the 2002 CIA-backed coup attempt against Venezeula's Hugo Chavez documented in the suppressed movie 'The Revolution Will Not Be Televised, a title then hijacked in Joe Trippi's book about Howard Dean.
The 2003 feature film 'Assassination Tango' is about an American assassin in Argentina, if that title didn't telegraph it sufficiently for you to guess.

Another theme in the John Cusack movie is rock'n'roll since the lead female is a disc jockey which allows for the 'Big Chill'-style viral marketing of a CD to go with the movie, typical money-grubbing but I have to also wonder whether pre-conditioning against Alex Constantine's work exposing Operation CHAOS murder of Woodstock-era rock musicians was also involved. Constantine had published two books through Feral House about the CIA by 1997 and his next opus may have been anticipated. For instance, a shady character named Michael Moynihan claimed to have worked at Feral House as an editor and, by some stroke of coincidence, in 1998 Moynihan published a keyword hijacking of "CHAOS" and reversed the meme of Constantine's book called 'The Covert War Against Rock.'
Moynihan's 1998 book was about rockers who kill, not rockers who WERE killed.
(Alex Constantine, beware of your own publisher.)

Whether the rock'n'roll angle is opportunistic cross-marketing greed or a decoy theme itself is ambiguous.

But the themes of CIA assassination and the 'Franklin Cover-up' as exposed in the 1994 book by Nebraska State Senator John DeCamp and confirmed by his old pal William Colby are strongly evident in the 1997 movie 'Grosse Point Blank.'

I've already mentioned a number of psycho-political events reinforcing the meme 'lone gunman' this year and hijacking of the name "Paine" for next year, as in "Ruth."

In 1997 the same name-hijacking seems to have been done.
A decoy of the name "PAINE" was floated, too, just as it will be in the 2008 movie about Doris Payne.

If you would like to read what a CIA shill might write to hype up a decoy book on Amazon.com, just read the only two comments for this republished 1997 book hyping the 'lone gunman' meme using the Lincoln assassination at Ford's theater as a vehicle for the keyword "Paine." (Don't forget-Ford Theater/Gerald Ford, too.)

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Note the effort to steer children towards the book-
"I drove my mom & dad crazy about Lewis Paine when I was 9." ROTFLMAO!

[url]http://www.amazon.com/Alias-Paine-Thornton-Mystery-Conspiracy/dp/0786425555/ref=
sr_1_1/002-7711532-4340025?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1183656317&sr=1-1[/url]

1) BEST BOOK OF ITS KIND, February 15, 1998
Reviewer: A reader
This review is from: Alias Paine: Lewis Thornton Powell, the Mystery Man of the Lincoln Conspiracy (Library Binding)

Without question this is the best researched study of one of John Wilkes Booth's main co-conspirators ever written.

2) Lewis Paine, June 14, 2001
By Carmen (Baltimore, Maryland) - See all my reviews
This review is from: Alias Paine: Lewis Thornton Powell, the Mystery Man of the Lincoln Conspiracy (Library Binding)
Lewis Paine was a dashing young man in the 19th Century. Why would Booth tempt Lewis Paine into kidnapping Mr. Lincoln? I liked Lewis Paine since I was little. Now that I'm 20 yrs old now, I still dream of him. I know he's dead already. (Don't think I'm insane for this guy.) If Lewis Paine was like he was in the 1860's today, I'll freak out. My husband's name is Lewis but not Powell. I have collected several pics of Powell since I was 12 to 13. I drove my mom & dad crazy about Lewis Paine when I was 9. Hope you like my thoughts about Lewis Paine.

Love, Carmen


Ruth Paine's ears must be burning.

p.s. Alex Contantine and Lisa Pease- I've been blocked from logging onto Google-NSA's blog system. Every attempt to log in suddenly crashes my browser ever since you, Alex, included my writing as 'HughManatee' in your article on "Noams and Sprouts" about gate-keepers, Mockingbird, and 9/11 titled 'The Controlled Left: Mae Brussell vs Solomon and Parry.'
http://alexconstantine.blogspot.com/2007/07/re-controlled-left-mae-brussell-v.html

That's when Google-NSA seems to have locked me out from adding comments to your blogs as username 'MoviesAreDecoys.' (?)
I don't have proof but I'm not a coincidentalist and timing is mighty suspicious.

Every single time I try to log in to Google's blog system I get the infamous conditioning 'glitch message' "This program has performed an illegal function and will be closed."
That only started happening the same day Alex Constantine published my 12/05 writing from another board and when I started spreading around the 1953 CIA in Hollywood documents.

I've been wrong about software-glitchy stuff before and I hope I am now but this forum has also been unuseable since the bogus CIA 'Family Jewels' stunt was beginning.

Recall that Jeff got locked out of his front page at Google blogs when he outed US-UK false flag ops in the middle of a Pentagon info-campaign.
CIA runs mainstream media since WWII:
news rooms, movies/TV, publishing
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Disney is CIA for kidz!
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Re: JFK/RFK disinfo season: Funny assassin movie-You Kill Me

Postby professorpan » Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:42 am

He's still at it?!?!

Nothing like getting a nostalgic email directing me back to a Hugh thread after all these years, to find he's still hammering away :-)

Fortunately, I've learned better ways to spend my time than jousting with rabidly delusional sea mammals. Life's too short, etc. etc.

Best to everyone! Hugh, too! Ta ta!

(flapping my wings and flying away)
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Re: JFK/RFK disinfo season: Funny assassin movie-You Kill Me

Postby stefano » Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:45 pm

He is sporadically "at it", but this is a four-year-old thread you bumped. Goodbye.
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Re: JFK/RFK disinfo season: Funny assassin movie-You Kill Me

Postby professorpan » Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:10 pm

Weird. Guess it was the CIA, but I got a link from the message board that there was a reply to this thread. Apologies for bad bump.
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Re: JFK/RFK disinfo season: Funny assassin movie-You Kill Me

Postby hanshan » Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:46 pm

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HMW:

Recall that Jeff got locked out of his front page at Google blogs when he outed US-UK false flag ops in the middle of a Pentagon info-campaign.


Funny that. Didn't recall


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CounterPunch with the 2011 edition of RFK disinformation

Postby MinM » Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:39 pm

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:Alex, included my writing as 'HughManatee' in your article on "Noams and Sprouts" about gate-keepers, Mockingbird, and 9/11 titled 'The Controlled Left: Mae Brussell vs Solomon and Parry.'
http://alexconstantine.blogspot.com/2007/07/re-controlled-left-mae-brussell-v.html

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index ... opic=17883
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Re: CounterPunch with the 2011 edition of RFK disinformation

Postby hanshan » Wed Jun 29, 2011 7:49 am

MinM wrote:
Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:Alex, included my writing as 'HughManatee' in your article on "Noams and Sprouts" about gate-keepers, Mockingbird, and 9/11 titled 'The Controlled Left: Mae Brussell vs Solomon and Parry.'
http://alexconstantine.blogspot.com/2007/07/re-controlled-left-mae-brussell-v.html

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index ... opic=17883



back to it, then.



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Re: CounterPunch with the 2011 edition of RFK disinformation

Postby sunny » Wed Jun 29, 2011 9:17 am

MinM wrote:
Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:Alex, included my writing as 'HughManatee' in your article on "Noams and Sprouts" about gate-keepers, Mockingbird, and 9/11 titled 'The Controlled Left: Mae Brussell vs Solomon and Parry.'
http://alexconstantine.blogspot.com/2007/07/re-controlled-left-mae-brussell-v.html

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index ... opic=17883


You learn something new every day. I knew about Bowan/Osbourne of course but I did not know this about him:

Mae Brussell wrote:It has been alleged that the CIA-FBI combine, in conjunction with the Defense Industrial Security Command, has supported a school in Oaxaco, Mexico, for professional assassins. This religious academy, disguised as a missionary, was exposed in 1970 and might be disbanded since that date. Albert Osborne, alias John Howard Bowan, director and head "missionary," accompanied Lee Harvey Oswald on his trip to Mexico in September, 1962. Oswald, not an assassin, was patsy for the men who killed President John F. Kennedy.


Thanks MinM.
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