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Postby IanEye » Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:30 pm

Anatomy of a Highjacking Keyword Edition pt1

If you want to defeat your enemy, sing his song.


Let's say you had developed a really cool finger picking style on the guitar. You go on a guitar playing board and take the time to describe it. people read about it.
Some people choose to ignore it.
Some people tell you to fuck off, they already have their own style of guitar playing and they are sticking with it.
Some people take the time to try the finger picking style and incorporate it into their own playing.

One of the latter people likes the way your finger picking style works with a Bruce Cockburn song. They post a link to it for you and others to listen to his version of a Cockburn song using your finger picking style..

Here is where it gets interesting because you really don't like Bruce Cockburn. Do you:

ignore it
tell this person to fuck off, you can't believe they have taken your precious finger picking technique and wasted it on someone like Bruce Cockburn
let them know you are glad that they have taken the time to learn the style even if you don't think you will be hanging out and jamming any time soon

I find the concept of keyword hijacking very interesting. Mr. Wins obviously places a great deal of importance on this topic.

One example he has cited concerned a man named "Nacho del Valle".
http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?p=134911#134911
"I've given examples of how the dirty war in Mexico is being shielded from American youth by using a movie title, 'Nacho Libre,' so that jailed activist, Nacho Del Valle, won't become another Che figure among the millions of Latin American immigrants in this country who have lots of cultural solidarity due to suffering from US imperialism in their home countries."


I considered this for a while and took into account the millions of dollars it would cost to make a film like "Nacho Libre", but also took into account the billions of dollars that are on the line for corporations down in Mexico to maintain the status quo down there. I was able to get into a head space where it seemed feasible that the CIA [or some other power structure] might indeed get Hollywood to change an already written script and have a pre existing character re-named Nacho for this purpose. Indeed, in "Mulholland Drive", David Lynch alludes to the fact that forces in Hollywood make all kinds of demands for all kind of reasons [as in "this is the girl"].

But here is the thing.
Once I am in that head space, it is still my head. My head knows there is a guy in California very near Hollywood who goes by the name of Nacho Vidal. Nacho Vidal is a porn director. So, I replied to Mr. Wins.
http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?p=135186#135186
"Hugh your comment regarding “Nacho Libre” and Nacho Del Valle reminded me of an interview I read with one of the biggest names in the Porn industry right now, Nacho Vidal. Mr. Vidal was upset about the Jack Black movie because he himself was planning on calling one of his future “releases” “Nacho Libre” but Hollywood beat him to it [pardon the pun].

And this got me to thinking, another huge star in Porn right now is curvy starlet Alexis Texas.
What if the CIA bankrolled the popularity of this particular woman? Because you see Hugh, Alexis Texas sounds a lot like Lexis-Nexis, the powerful search engine, and people out there might use Lexis-Nexis to search for items about Texas, at which point they might find out things about Dallas, like what Debbie really did there behind the Grassy Knoll. But if the porn watchers got confused by the generous assets of Alexis Texas, they might never discover the enticing aspects of Lexis-Nexis.

So, by funding the career of Alexis Texas [who has a really Hugh Jass, by the way], the CIA is diverting a lot of porn watchers from finding out the Truth. The CIA really are a bunch of wankers."


Mr Hillshoist appeared to agree with me about the Nacho similarities.
http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?p=135273#135273
"I have often wondered of the popular food nachos is an attempt to distract people from learning about Nacho del Valle.

Especially the nacho hat.

"Nacho nacho man

I want to be a nacho, man."

Of course a porn star called nacho puts that song in whole new light.

BTW Ianeye. Nacho Vidal and Nacho del Valle sound rather similar don't they. You might be onto something with porn based keyword hijackoffing."


Who knows? Perhaps others saw the similarities as well.

Here is the thing Mr. Wins. I am able to get into the frame of mind that allows me to consider the possibility that the CIA would spend millions of dollars on a film called "Nacho Libre". But if they were willing to do that, why wouldn't they spend just one million to bank roll Nacho Vidal?

How much do you think the average Mainstream movie costs?
How much do you think the average Porn movie costs?

For one Nacho Libre film investment the CIA could get from Senor Vidal how many of the following titles? - Warning: porn link
http://www.evilangel.com/page.php?node=search&director2=Nacho+Vidal

I am willing to bet that for the budget of Nacho Libre the CIA could at least get the entire "She Said Blow Me" series financed. So why wouldn't they? Do you honestly think that none of the "millions of Latin American immigrants" you care so much about don't watch porn? To be fair, many of them might not like to watch "straight" guys blow trannies, but Senor Vidal is a versatile guy and this isn't the only kink in his oeuvre.

Mr. Wins, once you have hipped people on this board to the concept of keyword hijacking, they are free to look for keyword hijacking wherever they see fit.

If they come back to this board and describe an instance where they think they see keyword hijacking, that is a win for you Mr. Wins. You would be well advised to not discourage them, even if you don't see what they see.
Otherwise, the next time you try to force a connection between the military naming a mine after a particular gastropod and Hollywood naming a "bee"-movie after the same gastropod, when anybody who has visited the ocean in the past two centuries has also pointed to some shiny rocks and said, "Look! a limpet!" well you open yourself up for some satyrization, my friend.

You have commited yourself to this concept, anybody who brings up the concept, in any fashion, satirical or otherwise, is helping you validate the concept.

But you do not own the concept.

In part 2, I will describe how I have decided to try a little bit of this keyword hijacking myself. Because after all:

if you want to defeat your enemy, sing his song.
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Re: Anatomy of a Highjacking Keyword Edition pt1

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:49 pm

Ugly. Very very ugly, IanEye. I'm going to puncture some of your pus-filled posting and then I'm not going to dignify you with detailed responses again.

There are SO many things wrong in your post, IanEye. And some are just malevalent.
>Seems you don't like my empathy for Latin American immigrants.
>You ascribe things to me I didn't write.
>And you suggest that a porn film would be as visible a cultural influence as a megaplex Jack Black film with family rentals.

So you actually lie. Why did you make things up I didn't write?
You've chosen a very unproductive path here. I wonder why?

IanEye wrote:
If you want to defeat your enemy, sing his song.

.....


Oh. So you want to defeat me by "singing my song" out of tune.
There's a name for that. Thanks for the warning.

I find the concept of keyword hijacking very interesting. Mr. Wins obviously places a great deal of importance on this topic.


You got that right. Figuring out keyword hijacking was like learning how to see through the one-way mirror of spook media to find what they put in front of us as culture war.

I was able to find the neuroscience behind this AND even another related psy-ops tactic, the pre-emption of potential resistance catch-phrases like:
>Nacho Libre
>Hugo
>Backwards Jenny

I was able to find important people and covert ops I'd never even heard of just by reverse engineering a pop culture keyword to see if it was a hijacking:

>Nacho del Valle
>Carol Gilligan
>Ernest Hemingway's story character, Krebs.
>Muldergate
>Operation Vulcan
>Project Camelot

Compare MY results using keyword hijacking as a guide to history and psy-ops with...Jeff's "associative universe." heh.

One example he has cited concerned a man named "Nacho del Valle".
http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?p=134911#134911
HMW: "I've given examples of how the dirty war in Mexico is being shielded from American youth by using a movie title, 'Nacho Libre,' so that jailed activist, Nacho Del Valle, won't become another Che figure among the millions of Latin American immigrants in this country who have lots of cultural solidarity due to suffering from US imperialism in their home countries."


There's even more than that here but that subset excerpt is true.

I considered this for a while and took into account the millions of dollars it would cost to make a film like "Nacho Libre", but also took into account the billions of dollars that are on the line for corporations down in Mexico to maintain the status quo down there.


Wrong. It doesn't "cost the CIA." Movies are absurdly lucrative - like all the other drug dealing.

I was able to get into a head space where it seemed feasible that the CIA [or some other power structure] might indeed get Hollywood to change an already written script and have a pre existing character re-named Nacho for this purpose. Indeed, in "Mulholland Drive", David Lynch alludes to the fact that forces in Hollywood make all kinds of demands for all kind of reasons [as in "this is the girl"].


There's lots of elements of a movie that are changeable at different times for different reasons. Try and count the number of times a writer is angry at what was done to his original script.

Now this bit you wrote below, IanEye, is nonsense, the idea that a porn film has the same exposure to 14-22 year olds as a megaplex Jack Black movie with rentals in stores families can watch--

But here is the thing.
Once I am in that head space, it is still my head. My head knows there is a guy in California very near Hollywood who goes by the name of Nacho Vidal. Nacho Vidal is a porn director. So, I replied to Mr. Wins.
http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?p=135186#135186
"Hugh your comment regarding “Nacho Libre” and Nacho Del Valle reminded me of an interview I read with one of the biggest names in the Porn industry right now, Nacho Vidal. Mr. Vidal was upset about the Jack Black movie because he himself was planning on calling one of his future “releases” “Nacho Libre” but Hollywood beat him to it [pardon the pun].

And this got me to thinking, another huge star in Porn right now is curvy starlet Alexis Texas.
What if the CIA bankrolled the popularity of this particular woman? Because you see Hugh, Alexis Texas sounds a lot like Lexis-Nexis, the powerful search engine, and people out there might use Lexis-Nexis to search for items about Texas, at which point they might find out things about Dallas, like what Debbie really did there behind the Grassy Knoll. But if the porn watchers got confused by the generous assets of Alexis Texas, they might never discover the enticing aspects of Lexis-Nexis.

So, by funding the career of Alexis Texas [who has a really Hugh Jass, by the way], the CIA is diverting a lot of porn watchers from finding out the Truth. The CIA really are a bunch of wankers."
....
How much do you think the average Mainstream movie costs?
How much do you think the average Porn movie costs?


:roll: You think making porn puns is clever?
But to answer your juvenile question about using porn for psy-ops,
simple answer that even YOU know: Target audience and numbers.
And that is obvious.

You are malevalent in your muddying.
Or did you think that this was a really clever joke to waste our bandwith with?


I am willing to bet that for the budget of Nacho Libre the CIA could at least get the entire "She Said Blow Me" series financed. So why wouldn't they? Do you honestly think that none of the "millions of Latin American immigrants" you care so much about don't watch porn? To be fair, many of them might not like to watch "straight" guys blow trannies, but Senor Vidal is a versatile guy and this isn't the only kink in his oeuvre.


"The immigrants...you care so much about?" This appalling. You took time to write this?
This is ugly. Really ugly, IanEye.


Mr. Wins, once you have hipped people on this board to the concept of keyword hijacking, they are free to look for keyword hijacking wherever they see fit.


You told me lots about yourself with this post. Very disturbing.

Worse you made things up I NEVER WROTE. You are malevalent.
This below that you ascribe to me is YOUR fantasy. You are deceptive--

If they come back to this board and describe an instance where they think they see keyword hijacking, that is a win for you Mr. Wins. You would be well advised to not discourage them, even if you don't see what they see.
Otherwise, the next time you try to force a connection between the military naming a mine after a particular gastropod and Hollywood naming a "bee"-movie after the same gastropod, when anybody who has visited the ocean in the past two centuries has also pointed to some shiny rocks and said, "Look! a limpet!" well you open yourself up for some satyrization, my friend.


You made that up. I don't appreciate this false attribution to me.
And if you really really misundertand what I write that badly, you should be on another board. And I can't help you.

"Satyr-ization?" A Freudian slip perhaps? Hmm. I'll ask Professor Pan.
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Postby professorpan » Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:23 pm

"Satyr-ization?" A Freudian slip perhaps? Hmm. I'll ask Professor Pan.


How about leaving me out of this?
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Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:34 pm

professorpan wrote:
"Satyr-ization?" A Freudian slip perhaps? Hmm. I'll ask Professor Pan.


How about leaving me out of this?


You did the same thing, peel out of a pre-existing thread to start web of ridiculing mud.
Not a very intellectually honest debate style.
Surely you remember.

I hit a nerve...

Hey, did you know that Frank Stanton was one of the four CBS executives who...nevermind.
:wink:
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Postby Doodad » Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:31 pm

professorpan wrote:
"Satyr-ization?" A Freudian slip perhaps? Hmm. I'll ask Professor Pan.


How about leaving me out of this?


Here's a consolation prize.

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Postby jingofever » Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:57 pm

I always liked this picture:

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Re: Anatomy of a Highjacking Keyword Edition pt1

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:09 pm

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:>And you suggest that a porn film would be as visible a cultural influence as a megaplex Jack Black film with family rentals.


Absolutely, the whole crux of this argument is frankly dumb.

A generic porno or a comedy with Jack Black, full of catchphrases kids my age are still repeating....huh.
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Postby professorpan » Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:31 pm

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:
professorpan wrote:
"Satyr-ization?" A Freudian slip perhaps? Hmm. I'll ask Professor Pan.


How about leaving me out of this?


You did the same thing, peel out of a pre-existing thread to start web of ridiculing mud.
Not a very intellectually honest debate style.
Surely you remember.

I hit a nerve...

Hey, did you know that Frank Stanton was one of the four CBS executives who...nevermind.
:wink:


I have no idea what to make out of this gibberish. But if I don't take part in a thread, I'd prefer you didn't drag me into it.
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Keywords

Postby Trifecta » Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:02 am

Keywords, Metatags, metadata, Semantic webs et al.

Anyone with a decent bloging analytic tool, will tell and show you how to use keywords to hi-jack market share. Whether that be a psy-op, distraction or a digital landgrab.

I use KWH, to position clients above their direct competitors, the tools are out there and most are free (ad paged anyway)

For instance here is a tool I use for marketing purposes, but lets do a test on the theme. This is only a rank from January 2007

Count Search Term
21551 libre nacho
1452 libre nacho soundtrack
917 libre nacho quote
644 libre nacho picture
490 libre nacho soundboard
411 cast libre nacho
347 costume libre nacho
302 libre movie nacho
244 libre mask nacho
220 libre movie nacho quote
211 libre music nacho soundtrack
195 libre nacho torrent
175 domain libre myspace.com nacho
166 dvd libre nacho
164 libre lyric nacho
133 libre nacho sound track
130 libre nacho song
127 libre nacho poster
126 game libre nacho
119 libre nacho trailer
111 clip libre nacho sound
104 libre nacho script
102 black jack libre nacho
101 clip libre nacho
97 layout libre myspace nacho
96 funny libre nacho quote
94 libre nacho pic
91 libre music nacho
88 libre nacho shirt t
82 libre nacho wav
80 libre nacho ringtone
77 board libre nacho sound
75 libre myspace nacho picture
73 imdb libre nacho
72 libre nacho review
72 libre nacho wallpaper
70 libre mask nacho wrestling
70 libre nacho sound
67 libre myspace nacho
64 libre lyric nacho soundtrack
63 chancho libre nacho
63 libre nacho pen
62 2 libre nacho
61 from libre nacho quote
59 doll libre nacho
58 encarnacion libre lyric nacho
58 libre mp3 nacho
58 libre nacho psp
55 esqueleto libre nacho
52 libre nacho toy
51 libre nacho photo
49 bite libre nacho sound
49 figure libre nacho
48 action figure libre nacho
47 character libre nacho
46 encarnacion libre nacho song
45 libre nacho shirt
44 libre nacho soundboards
42 layout libre nacho
42 libre nacho wavs
41 libre merchandise nacho
38 libre nacho pen talking
37 libre movie nacho script
36 bubble gum libre nacho
36 libre movie nacho review
36 libre nacho ring tone
36 libre nacho umd
35 graphic libre myspace nacho
35 image libre nacho
33 libre line nacho
32 libre movie nacho poster
31 audio clip libre nacho
31 bobble head libre nacho
31 bobblehead libre nacho
30 actor libre nacho
30 bubble gum libre lyric nacho
30 cd libre nacho
30 clip libre nacho video
30 costume kid libre nacho
30 ds libre nacho
30 encarnacion libre nacho
30 libre line movie nacho
29 download libre nacho
29 letter libre nacho
28 byte libre nacho sound
28 iso libre nacho
28 libre nacho party supply
28 libre nacho watch
26 libre nacho nick
26 libre nacho shirt tee
25 audio libre nacho
25 dvd hd libre nacho
25 libre nacho ramses

Same keyword search for Nacho del Valle

NOTHING!

Same keyword search for Nacho Valle

NOTHING!

Now lets try Nacho

21551 libre nacho
4969 nacho
4011 nacho vidal
1452 libre nacho soundtrack
1398 de foto nacho vidal
1275 nacho recipe
999 nacho cheese
917 libre nacho quote
772 nacho sotomayor
766 nacho beristain
644 libre nacho picture
528 nacho vegas
496 nacho cano
490 libre nacho soundboard
411 cast libre nacho
407 nacho mamas
391 nacho dip
384 nacho cheese recipe
368 nacho cheese dispenser
347 costume libre nacho
335 nacho dip recipe
334 libra nacho
302 libre movie nacho
285 nacho vidal pic
281 nacho cheese dip
254 nacho cheese sauce
254 nacho cheese warmer
251 nacho machine
244 libre mask nacho
220 libre movie nacho quote
217 recipe for beef nachos
211 libre music nacho soundtrack
195 libre nacho torrent
191 nacho figueras
190 libre.com nacho
175 domain libre myspace.com nacho
166 dvd libre nacho
164 libre lyric nacho
152 nacho vidal free
152 nacho vidal gay
141 nacho cheese machine
136 nacho cheese dip recipe
134 nacho cheese sauce recipe
133 libre nacho sound track
130 nacho chips
130 easy nacho recipe
130 libre nacho song
127 libre nacho poster
126 game libre nacho
124 nacho torrent vidal
123 nacho ramos
120 nacho supreme recipe
119 libre nacho trailer
116 nacho mama
112 mexican nacho recipe
112 nacho novo
111 clip libre nacho sound
110 nacho duato
106 nacho galindo
105 nacho killer pussy
104 libre nacho script
103 best nacho recipe
102 black jack libre nacho
101 cheese make nacho
101 clip libre nacho
99 ariana jollee.s nacho vidal y
97 layout libre myspace nacho
96 funny libre nacho quote
94 chicken nacho recipe
94 libre nacho pic
92 nacho vidal foto
91 libre music nacho
88 libre nacho shirt t
88 macho nacho
86 nacho doce
84 nacho vidal porn
84 nacho vidal.com
82 libre nacho wav
80 nacho mamas baltimore
80 libre nacho ringtone
77 board libre nacho sound
76 chino nacho y
75 lebra nacho
75 libre myspace nacho picture
73 imdb libre nacho
72 libre nacho review
72 libre nacho wallpaper
71 nacho coronel
70 libre mask nacho wrestling
70 libre nacho sound
69 nacho maker
68 lebre nacho
67 libre myspace nacho
66 foto gay nacho
65 layered nacho dip
64 libre lyric nacho soundtrack
63 chancho libre nacho
63 libre nacho pen
63 nacho warmer
62 2 libre nacho

Anyway, proves the point me thinks.

And Hugh, if you want to see how scary KWH is going to get, check out TED, metadata on steroids. http://tinyurl.com/3x9xtx
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Postby orz » Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:15 am

Same keyword search for Nacho del Valle

NOTHING!

Same keyword search for Nacho Valle

NOTHING!

So by this standard, you've proved Keywork Hijacking irrelevent; if there's statistically nothing on Nacho del Valle, then the problem isn't that there's to much awareness of other Nacho's, but rather too LITTLE awareness of Valle.
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Postby Uncle $cam » Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:23 am

What perchance do you guys know about The statistically improbable phrase's or SIP's?

The statistically improbable phrase
http://www.artsjournal.com/artfulmanage ... 000752.php



Further, what about, sip chains?
http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2005/ ... hains.html

Not to muddy the waters even more here, but I personally have withheld my opinion on the validity of Hmw's thesis here, I am in open flux on the idea, in other words, 'the proverbial jury is still out', for me.

However, I would like to say that as a distant observer I find it off putting to see him attacked for his idea's, and that includes the mockery or sarcasm.

The idea that the CIA/the NSA among any number of alphabet agencies wants to profile everyone and everything by using network algorithms, data mapping --including blogs--, synthetic environments for analysis and simulation, military funded sociology and psychobiology* by such as private entities as The Mitre Corporation/Lincoln Laboratories/ Mitre Corp.MIT's Lincoln Laboratories and other FFRDCs (Federally Funded Research and Development Centers) should scare the hell out of you. That they could have a project of which HMW describes is very reasonable given what we know, that we don't know, it wouldn't su[prize me if they have hundreds of these type projects. I mean hell, using, nay, 'taking' your money and spending it as if it was an endless supply ob black budget projects what do they care if their projects fail, they just move to the next one,with your taxes.


The Mitre Corporation
http://cryptogon.com/?p=1502

Lincoln Group
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2005/12/30 ... n_pro.html

*
psychobiology[1] is the application of the principles of biology to the study of mental processes and behavior. A psychobiologist, for instance, may compare the imprinting behavior in goslings to the early attachment behavior in human infants and construct theory around these two phenomena.
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Postby orz » Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:25 am

Googles:

Nacho del Valle = no mention of nacho libre till the second page, and even then it's minor mentions and not the official movie page or anything. Some pages are relevent, others not due to 'nacho" and "de valle" being common phrases in various contexts.

"Nacho del Valle" = Pages and pages of relevent-looking hits, no mention of 'Nacho Libre' evident at all.

"nacho" - random stuff about jack black movie and, you know, nachos!

BUT

"de valle" - a load of random stuff about hotels, dogs, hair lice treatment etc! So basically, if you have a bad search string on any subject, you're not gonna find it!!!

Noone's gonna be searching for just "nacho"... and if they know the full name, they are already interested and can find the info. And if they don't then the problem is not that they've heard an alternative use of the word "nacho", but that they HAVEN'T heard of Nacho del Valle, which is a seperate and more significant problem than supposed KH confusion.

WHY DO I EVEN BOTHER?
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Postby Uncle $cam » Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:58 am

Addendum:

I mean, what the hell, they use, Systems Thinking, Accidental Adversaries theory, game theory, all kinds of methodical industrial psychology and think tank type programs in the oft chance to control the masses, not to mention the bat shit insane models and such. For instance, themes from the rand corp and from paranoid schizophrenic John Nash, and the Fuck you buddy theories as show in Curtis's the Trap documentary.

The Trap: What Happened to Our Dream of Freedom
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trap_( ... ary_series)


Lotka-Volterra equation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotka-Volterra_equation

The Lotka-Volterra equations, also known as the predator-prey equations, are a pair of first order, non-linear, differential equations frequently used to describe the dynamics of biological systems in which two species interact, one a predator and one its prey. They were proposed independently by Alfred J. Lotka in 1925 and Vito Volterra in 1926.
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ahem, [clears throat deeply]

Postby IanEye » Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:30 am

Hugh said
http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?p=139037#139037
Prominently published feminists like Susan Faludi have no idea what is going on or why.



Ian said
http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?p=139039#139039
Hugh, can you point to some less published feminists [unlike Faludi], who you feel do have an idea what is going on?


Hugh said
http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?p=139043#139043
I don't know of ANYONE else besides myself who groks the militarist social engineering theory/goals/history/current examples that are in play in media.


Jeff said
http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?p=139045#139045
That's where you lose me. There's no one I could take seriously who would say I'm the only one who gets it.


also,

Hugh said
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Well, Hugo Chavez is showing signs of understanding culture war. I think spooks from other countries are hipping him to the mind control in movies and holidays that shape culture so that he can better resist the attempt by the USG to get to the people directly.


Ian said
http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?p=139048#139048
It is one thing to disagree with Mr. Chavez on any number of ideological levels Hugh, but to question his mental intelligence is another. Why does he need other people to "hip" him to these things? Do you honestly think he can't figure it out himself?


Consider:

Mexicans immigrate to this country. Once here, they continue to speak with their families and friends in Mexico. A topic for discussion might very well be the plight of Nacho del Valle. Once the Mexican immigrants have had this discussion with their fellow Mexicans, they may very well talk about Nacho del Valle with fellow Latin American immigrants from other countries. While mentioning Senor del Valle to a Honduran they in turn might find out about the political situation in Honduras. Or Paraguay, or Chile.
The point being, if the CIA wants to go to the effort of bankrolling a "Nacho" movie to distract a target audience, namely, "millions of Latin American immigrants in this country", then let the CIA go to the trouble. Because the CIA will fail in this endevour. I have enough faith in humanity to state this plainly. I mean, if you want some sense of the cluelessness of the CIA operative who thought up this scheme consider:

If you want to distract an audience from the plight of a jailed political prisoner named Nacho, why would you call attention to the fact that he is in jail? Why would you name your film "Free Nacho" en espanol?

As in, Free Angela Davis.
As in, Free Leonard Peltier
As in, Free James Brown.

As in, "a free taco for every base stolen in the World Series"? Believe me, the only people I saw distracted by that CIA ploy last night were drunken Boston University students.

In terms of the whole Nacho Libre approach Vs. Nacho Vidal approach. That is just it. There is no "Vs." here for the CIA. They have the Power to use both approaches simultaneously.

In 1999 a horror movie was released, its' name was "The Haunting".
In 1999 a horror movie was released, its' name was "The Blair Witch Project".

"The Haunting" cost over a 100 Million to make because of the star cast and the CGI effects.
"The Blair Witch Project" cost over what, care to guess the budget? I repeat, how many "Blair Witch Project"s could you make with the budget of "the Haunting"?

It is the difference between going hunting with one .357 bullet and one round of birdshot. Depending on your "target audience" aka dinner, one approach might be more appropriate than another. But as I believe many of us know, when the CIA goes hunting they don't always bring a lone gunman to the hunting party do they?

They can afford to deploy many techniques at once. No one needs to choose sides on who has the better concept of keyword hijacking, because their are many games at play at once.

At the start of this thread I quoted Mr. Wins directly. Then, towards the end in regards to the "limpet" situation I paraphrased my take on what Mr. Wins considers to be CIA meddling in a Don Knotts movie. It seemed obvious to me that I wasn't directly quoting Mr. Wins at that point since I didn't use the previous quoting protocol.

So Hugh, have you read this far? Here is a direct quote of yours:
http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?p=139043#139043
I don't know of ANYONE else besides myself who groks the militarist social engineering theory/goals/history/current examples that are in play in media.


Hugh, you can continue to claim that you are the only one "who groks" it in a fashion of smug superiority.
Or, you can embrace all of the people on this thread so far who have come to your defense.
The Man in the High Castle is a lonely role, many here would hope you choose the latter/ladder and come down with the rest of us.

Either way, I win because I have gained/learned from the responses on this board to this thread more knowledge about how to go about keyword hijacking than I had before. I have learned yet another way to play a song on my guitar that I didn't know before. This is worth it, because as we both know:

If you want to defeat the CIA, learn their techniques - aka - If you want to defeat your enemy, sing his song.

See Hugh? I know how to use the font size feature to make a point too. ;)

PS: I also got some cool Mansfield pics I didn't have before - again, a win/Wins for me.....
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Re: Anatomy of a Highjacking Keyword Edition pt1

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:53 am

IanEye wrote:

Mr Hillshoist appeared to agree with me about the Nacho similarities.
http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?p=135273#135273
"I have often wondered of the popular food nachos is an attempt to distract people from learning about Nacho del Valle.

Especially the nacho hat.

"Nacho nacho man

I want to be a nacho, man."

Of course a porn star called nacho puts that song in whole new light.

BTW Ianeye. Nacho Vidal and Nacho del Valle sound rather similar don't they. You might be onto something with porn based keyword hijackoffing."



Mr Hillshoist!!!

How dare you call me MR. Do I like a snotty rich bastard in a suit and a sportscar. :P :wink:



Look Nacho libre is one of Hugh's KH examples that I don't find that compelling. Same with the Gilligan's Island one. But the Shaggy DA is actually starting to grow on me.

Anyway back to the origial topic.

But I wouldn't put it past anyone to use porn as a distraction/ridicule technique, despite how distateful the idea might seem to some.

Funnily enough given your recent Pr0n thread Ianeye, someone brought a kind of soft porn mag to work this week. Its called The Picture, and its crass but some of its also pretty damn funny in a lowbrow way.

They had an article about war and porn, about as shallow as you can get, and if that didn't fit a psy op profile I dunno what did.

But the "article" also had a series of movie titles based on famous war movies. i am not gonna repeat them here (unless someone wants to know), but some of them made me laugh so much...

I dunno if KH would always work, or if sometimes it would have the opposite effect, ie attracting attention. But if it was a porno KH then given the tone of the conversation that followed and the level of intellectual well the lack of anything remotely interlactual that followed...

Despite what Wombat and Hugh think I reckon a porn based KH would have a great effect on the people that were exposed to it.

It doesn't have to be an either or situation.
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