Oil and Drug Cartel Behind WWII Nuremberg Records Reveal

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Postby jingofever » Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:36 pm

slimmouse wrote:For Gawds sake JF, get with the programme here.

These are hard honest to god facts.

Something serious this way comes. Perhaps youre covering youre ass.

I can jive with that. Hope your conscience can.


No doubt I am morally stunted compared to the venerable Dr. Rath, but who isn't? It takes a great man to sell vitamins to the world's most desperate people. And watch them die.

smiths wrote:so jingo, do you refute the scanned nuremberg IG Farben documents on the site?


I haven't found the time to read the 50,000+ pages he put up, but I'm sure you got around to it. So have you confirmed his advertisement, the one he tried to pass off as a New York Times article? Kind of like he tries to pass off vitamins as a cancer cure? But why bother confirming? That sort of deceit is the hallmark of an honest man.

I'm open to the idea that IG Farben used Hitler to corner the pharmaceutical market but I don't trust that quack Rath to give an accurate assessment.

Did you know that the multi-trillion dollar pharmaceutical industry is

* the largest corporate benefactor of the September 11 tragedy and the attack on Iraq, because without this global media distraction the pharmaceutical ‘business with disease’ would no longer exist;
* the largest corporate sponsor of the Bush election campaign and, therefore, the recipient of hundreds of billions worth of benefits from political decisions taken by the Bush administration?

ONLY BY ANSWERING “WHO BENEFITTED FROM THESE TRAGEDIES?” WILL THE ‘9/11 INVESTIGATION’ FIND THE TRUTH!

The motives behind 9/11 and the Iraq war are now evident for everyone and the first dissidents are speaking out. Imagine, what will come to light if the White House is turned over to a new administration. This would be the end of the special interest groups, above all the pharmaceutical industry.

To prevent this they must try to hold onto their power and try to justify their actions retrospectively. This can only be achieved by taking advantage of even bigger tragedies in the future, including the use of biological, chemical or nuclear weapons.


Shocking. I take back everything I said. Rath just blew 9/11 wide open.
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Postby smiths » Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:06 pm

i think you missed my point, i am not interested in rath or the ad,

i am interested in the resource which is incredible and yes, i spent about two hours reading documents yesterday which i consider to be irrefutible,
either that or dr rath has conceived the most amazing hoax i have ever heard of
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Postby 11:11 » Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:08 pm

The 9/11-big pharma connection seems far out, but one never knows what it might be without investigation. Not saying it it was the motive, at all, but may have provided opportunities.

Refresher:

From 1977 to 1985 Rumsfeld served as Chief Executive Officer, President, and then Chairman of G.D. Searle & Company, a worldwide pharmaceutical company based in Skokie, Illinois, whose products included, among others, Metamucil, Dramamine, and the oral contraceptive pill Enovid. During his tenure at Searle, Rumsfeld led the company's financial turnaround that in turn earned him awards as the Outstanding Chief Executive Officer in the Pharmaceutical Industry from the Wall Street Transcript (1980) and Financial World (1981). Rumsfeld is believed to have earned around $12 million from Searle's sale to Monsanto.

It was under Rumsfeld that Searle got the Food and Drug Administration's approval for the controversial artificial sweetener, aspartame, which it marketed as NutraSweet.



From January 1997 until being sworn in as the 21st Secretary of Defense in January 2001, Rumsfeld was Chairman of the Board of Gilead Sciences, which is the developer of Tamiflu (Oseltamivir), which is used in the treatment of bird flu.[34] Several news sources have published stories implying that Rumsfeld profits from sales of Tamiflu to the U.S. Government while he is in office, although they note that he has recused himself from any decisions involving Gilead and also had the Pentagon's General Counsel issue additional instructions outlining what he could and could not be involved in if there were an avian flu pandemic and the Pentagon had to respond.[35][36]

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CAFTA is essential for national security. This desperate plea by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is a last-ditch effort by a failing administration to resuscitate CAFTA using fear and divisiveness. Short of votes in Congress, with a flawed strategy, they are attempting to scare the American people into support. Nobody really thinks al-Qaida has splinter cells in Costa Rica. We won't be fooled into believing Osama bin Laden is hiding out in the Dominican Republic.

(Codex Alimentarius was inserted into this "national security" and trade monstrosity)

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Postby vigilant » Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:58 pm

11:11 wrote:


From January 1997 until being sworn in as the 21st Secretary of Defense in January 2001, Rumsfeld was Chairman of the Board of Gilead Sciences, which is the developer of Tamiflu (Oseltamivir), which is used in the treatment of bird flu.[


About a year ago when the media was telling us all that we were going to drop dead of bird flu, and suggesting everybody stock up on Tamiflu, I read an article that Rumsfeld was one of the major stock holders of Gilead, maker of Tamiflu. I personally went to the yahoo finance site and looked up the "inside trader list" to see if it was true.

It absolutely was true. His name was there. I think I went back a couple of months ago and briefly looked and his name was gone. I look at tons of stuff so I am not sure I looked and his name was gone, but I think it was gone. I guess he sold his stock.

But about a year ago, his name was "definately" on the list...I saw it myself, with my own eyes.
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Re: rummy

Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:03 am

vigilant wrote:But about a year ago, his name was "definately" on the list...I saw it myself, with my own eyes.


You sure did. Hell, he didn't even try to hide it:

http://money.cnn.com/2005/10/31/news/ne ... _rumsfeld/

NEW YORK (Fortune) - The prospect of a bird flu outbreak may be panicking people around the globe, but it's proving to be very good news for Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and other politically connected investors in Gilead Sciences, the California biotech company that owns the rights to Tamiflu, the influenza remedy that's now the most-sought after drug in the world.
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Postby jingofever » Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:16 am

smiths wrote:i think you missed my point, i am not interested in rath or the ad,

i am interested in the resource which is incredible and yes, i spent about two hours reading documents yesterday which i consider to be irrefutible,
either that or dr rath has conceived the most amazing hoax i have ever heard of


I have not suggested the documents are a hoax, I only wrote that I have not looked at them, and given that there are tens of thousands of pages I do not think I will. Did the documents you read support this thesis:

The driving force behind WWII was IG Farben’s ambition to achieve control of the global oil and drug markets and eliminate, by force, any competition.
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Re: IG Farben conditioning ad.

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:35 am

vigilant wrote:[color=darkblue]New York Times, July 20, 2007
The IG Farben companies financed the rise to power of the Nazi party and the transformation of German democracy into a dictatorship.
The Nazi/IG Farben coalition’s plan for world domination


C'mon RI. Isn't it obvious what is missing in this ad? Eventually you will look at something offered and ask yourself, "What's missing? What is the emphasis?"

Don'tcha think it's kinda obvious that this AD placed in the NYTimes and the companion website emphasize just IG Farben really really really hard and barely mention the US end of it?

There is NO TEXT mentioning of the US-Nazi connection, just two links in a sea of "IG FARBEN."

And there's a quiz you can take where all the answers to "Know History" are...IG Farben. Word association through repetition and interactivity.

The vehicle of the Nuremberg trials serves to prevent mention of Prescott Bush, Averill Harriman, Allen Dulles, the attempted coup against FDR, etc.

Just one page of the website with books and articles to read online includes info about the US-Nazi connection and this is in two out of the twelve books listed-
>Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler, by Antony Sutton
>Trading With the Enemy, by Charles Higham

This is forestalling, minimization, distortion, and misdirection.
Probably other counterpropaganda terms I don't know yet.

Oooh. Nurmeberg documents. What a good way to market this guy as a source and then use him to whammy another topic...like 9/11.

He's useful for displacing and discrediting Dr. Leonard Horowitz, too.
Dr. Horowitz has been outing the Fort Detrick/Plum Island horror show and got turned into the bad guy in a Steven Seagal decoy movie.

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Postby vigilant » Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:46 am

Hugh wrote:


The vehicle of the Nuremberg trials serves to prevent mention of Prescott Bush, Averill Harriman, Allen Dulles, the attempted coup against FDR, etc.

That is all well documented, and 11:11 alluded to it earlier in this thread, she just didn't name them by name...
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Postby 8bitagent » Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:02 am

I like to make it simple for people.

Bayer and IBM made the holocaust possible

Bayer still honors top holocaust Nazis

Bayer was directly involved in making AIDS spread worldwide through Factor8

Bayer's elite US/German "Carl Duizberg Society" exchange program produced Mohammed Atta in Germany

And this is just the tip of the iceberg
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Postby 11:11 » Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:16 am

8bit, you might want to check out the Anthony Sutton link (my earlier post).
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The decoy

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:14 am

11:11 wrote:8bit, you might want to check out the Anthony Sutton link (my earlier post).


Right after Sutton published 'Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler' there was a decoy book publised that left out the American end except for Henry Ford since that's kind of impossible to avoid.

The decoy book was called 'Who Financed Hitler?' Und it vas only Chermans.

This sanitized decoy device is common. Just like this ad pointing only at IG Farben.

When ex-CIA whistleblower, John Stockwell, was touring the US in the late 1980s giving a speech on "the CIA's secret wars" and warning about REX84 and pre-emptive wars and detentions (naww) the decoy book came in 1987 from Naval Intelligence officer, Bob Woodward, and was called 'Veil: The Secret Wars of the CIA.'

Woodward's distorted and sanitized book blamed everything on the safely-dead William Casey.

Yes, John Stockwell WARNED US IN 1987 what these fascist neocons were planning.
And here it is.


Read Stockwell's 1987 expose and be amazed. You'll see why Woodward snowed us.-
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Postby 11:11 » Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:20 am

Whenever you peel back the layers there are ALWAYS the same culprits. International banskters who fund all sides, making money and amassing power from the chaos. JP Morgan, Rothschilds, et al. Same fucking people every time.
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Postby vigilant » Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:35 am

I highly suggest people read this article Hugh has suggested above. I have read this Rex84 containment stuff before, but this is about the last straw for me. I have read dozens of articles about this, and listened to podcasts from ex military people about these internment camps. I have decided they must be real....damn....how many credible accounts can I read before I believe? .....ya know?...excerpt from article below...
http://www.informationclearinghouse.inf ... le4068.htm




They developed a wire. They gave them crank generators, with `U.S. AID' written on the side, so the people even knew where these things came from. They developed a wire that was strong enough to carry the current and fine enough to fit between the teeth, so you could put one wire between the teeth and the other one in or around the genitals and you could crank and submit the individual to the greatest amount of pain, supposedly, that the human body can register.
Now how do you teach torture? Dan Metrione: `I can teach you about torture, but sooner or later you'll have to get involved. You'll have to lay on your hands and try it yourselves.'


Think a minute. What is `the threat of international terrorism'? These things catch a lot of attention. But how many Americans died in terrorist actions last year? According to Secretary Shultz, 79. Now, obviously that's terrible but we killed 55,000 people on our highways with drunken driving; we kill 2,500 people in far nastier, bloodier, mutilating, gang-raping ways in Nicaragua last year alone ourselves. Obviously 79 peoples' death is not enough reason to take away the protection of American citizens, of due process of the law.

But they're pressing for this. The special actions teams that will do the pre-emptive striking have already been created, and trained in the defense department.

They're building detention centers. There were 8 kept as mothballs under the McLaren act after World War II, to detain aliens and dissidents in the next war, as was done in the next war, as was done with the Japanese people during World War II. They're building 10 more, and army camps, and the... executive memos about these things say it's for aliens and dissidents in the next national emergency....

FEMA, the Federal Emergency Management Agency, headed by Loius Guiffrida, a friend of Ed Meese's.... He's going about the country lobbying and demanding that he be given authority, in the times of national emergency, to declare martial law, and establish a curfew, and gun down people who violate the curfew... in the United States.

And then there's Ed Meese, as I said. The highest law enforcement officer in the land, President Reagan's closest friend, going around telling us that the constitution never did guarantee freedom of speech and press, and due process of the law, and assembly.

What they are planning for this society, and this is why they're determined to take us into a war if we'll permit it... is the Reagan revolution.... So he's getting himself some laws so when he puts in
the troops in Nicaragua, he can take charge of the American people, and put people in jail, and kick in their doors, and kill them if they don't like what he's doing....

The question is, `Are we going to permit our leaders to take away our freedoms because they have a charming smile and they were nice movie stars one day, or are we going to stand up and fight, and insist on our freedoms?' It's up to us - you and I can watch this history play in the next year and 2 and 3 years.
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Re: rex84

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:49 am

vigilant wrote:I highly suggest people read this article Hugh has suggested above. I have read this Rex84 containment stuff before, but this is about the last straw for me.


Those camps have been there since some held Japanese during WWII.
They were maintained as an option in 1950 legislation during the height of the Red Scare.
So there have been camps for 65 years waiting 'just in case.'

The plans to use them, however, have been seriously developed to prevent either 'the sixties' or post-catastrophic disaster refugee chaos or...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarran_Internal_Security_Act
The Internal Security Act (also known as the Subversive Activities Control Act, McCarran Act or ISA) of 1950 is a United States federal law that required the registration of Communist organizations with the Attorney General in the United States and established the Subversive Activities Control Board to investigate persons thought to be engaged in "un-American" activities. Members of these groups could not become citizens. Citizen-members could be denaturalized in five years.

It was a key institution in the era of the Cold War, tightening alien exclusion and deportation laws and allowing for the detention of dangerous, disloyal, or subversive persons in times of war or "internal security emergency". The Democratic Congress overrode President Harry S. Truman's veto to pass this bill. Truman called the bill "the greatest danger to freedom of speech, press, and assembly since the Alien and Sedition Laws of 1798."

Sections of the ISA were gradually ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court.


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Postby 11:11 » Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:57 am

President Carter's 1979 executive order merged many of the separate disaster-related responsibilities into the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA). Among other agencies, FEMA absorbed: the Federal Insurance Administration, the National Fire Prevention and Control Administration, the National Weather Service Community Preparedness Program, the Federal Preparedness Agency of the General Services Administration and the Federal Disaster Assistance Administration activities from HUD. Civil defense responsibilities were also transferred to the new agency from the Defense Department's Defense Civil Preparedness Agency.



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