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Postby Trifecta » Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:12 am

Molekh I believe is the correct term to research the subject matter.
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Postby Stephen Morgan » Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:31 am

Joe Hillshoist wrote:How many Catholics do you know dickhead? And WTF is calling south americans Pagan? Pagans were pre Christian European people. Child sacrificers or not.

The way you use it is no different to saying:

"All blacks and asians look the same."

"All non Christians (Luciferian pagan heathens) look the same."


Maybe that's where the etymological roots of the word lie, but that's not what it means now, you prescriptivist grammar Nazi.

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Postby Stephen Morgan » Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:35 am

Occult Means Hidden wrote:The equivalent back then of accusing other countries of developing weapons of mass destruction is accusing them of human sacrifice. You can't exactly get away with false flags back then. And what do you know? Seems every outpost and nation except Greece and Egypt around Rome was and is accused of human sacrifice. Carthage, Pheonicia, Druidic Ireland, Gaulish France, Hunns, Slavic Baltic regions, Iberia, etc, etc. Coincidence?


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Only in recent years has Western science begun to investigate -- and to take seriously -- the prospect that sorcery, including ritual human sacrifice and cannibalism -- were fundamental practices at various Southwestern "Anasazi" sites, including Chaco Canyon and Mesa Verde.

(Despite various theories, and mostly due to paucity of broad-spectrum evidence, neither anthropology nor archaeology really have much idea who the "Anasazi" really were, nor their predecessors, the "Archaics." Sufficient archeo-astronomic study has been done at Chaco to ascertain that the site Complexes were intimately connected, astronomically aligned, and very carefully and intentionally "decommissioned." In many instances, Chaco Complex structures were literally deconstructed stone-by stone. See, e.g., the Solstice Project's findings.)

The more knowledgeable (and sane) Native American medicine people of today do not share the politically correct/New Agey naivete of goofy Baby Boomers for all things aboriginal. They understand that evil dwells amongst all peoples of the earth, and most of them won't go near sites like Chaco and Mesa Verde. Bad medicine, they say . . . very bad.

Yo. The land is alive, after its own fashion. It retains and resonates the energies of its inhabitants.

Terror is particularly resonant. Sorcerers, whether archaic or modern, know this.

Amongst most pre-modern Mesoamerican cultures, public propaganda claimed that "propitiation of deities" necessitated fertility blood-rites. Underlying, however, are primal motivations of dominance and control by self-styled "elites" via techniques of mass-terror.

Same as it ever was. Spectacle is effective. See Joey Goebbels.

Blood-spectacle is particularly effective, imprinting deeply on both the individual and sub-collective (cultural/tribal) consciousness.Somehow, pre-1968, Leone [referencing Director Sergio Leone and his film Once Upon a Time in the West] got hooked-in to the sorcery/cannibalism activities of certain Southwestern aboriginal peoples and their sites.
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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:56 am

Stephen Morgan wrote:"All blacks and asians look the same."

"All non Christians (Luciferian pagan heathens) look the same."

Maybe that's where the etymological roots of the word lie, but that's not what it means now, you prescriptivist grammar Nazi.


Prescriptivist grammar Nazi - thats a good one. I ain't not never been called a grimoire nazi before.

anyway...

What does it mean now?

Anyone whose religion doesn't fit your fundie worldview?

Dickhead yuppie wankers who want a chance to get naked with cool wiccan chicks (who we all know root like rabbits)?

People who try to find spirituality in the "natural world"?

Thelemites? Scientologists?

Indigenous religions?

What?

Yo. The land is alive, after its own fashion. It retains and resonates the energies of its inhabitants.


Obviously, and cos I think this (tho there's far more to the concept than that), and you seem to too, does that make us pagans, and according to little Johnny, are we therefore into child sacrifice, whether we know it or not?
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Postby John E. Nemo » Thu Nov 29, 2007 3:39 pm

I suppose the adult thing to do would be to apologize.
I never apologize.
I'm sorry, but that's just the way I am.

So....last thing you'll hear from me and then I'll leave "your"thread alone.

et in Arcadia ego wrote:First, I made the myspace page to bring new readers to Jeff's blog, which I think is a very good thing. I have no idea how much Murdoch has directly profited from my actions, but I doubt its much. Inversely, I've had many MANY people thank for me and cite that page as their door to RI and the things we discuss.

That equals success to me, and worth the effort that I applied with Jeff's good will. My only regret is that I haven't been able to maintain it and its fallen behind.


OMG.
Talk about America eating one's brains.

YOU are empowering imperialists with rationalizations like this.
Statements like "I only help Rupert Murdoch a little" and it's cousins "I only buy a few things at Walmart" and "I only fill up at the pump once a week" are the pretty lies that make the worlds of fascist robber barons, child slavery and wars for oil go round.

The American Dream used to be about the freedom to live how you liked and believe what you wanted to.
After WWII, the financial elite convinced everyone that the American Dream was a home in the suburbs, wife, 2.5 kids and a white picket fence.

If children have to be chained to sewing machines,
oil sheiks that kill women for being raped have to be made billionaires,
and lies that start wars have to be told to the people 24 hours a day,
in order for people to have the convenience of
cheap clothes from WalMart,
gas to drive that four wheel coffin around
and online places to meet someone to take the cheap clothes off with in the back seat of the four wheel coffin, then so be it.

John Carpenter summed up this sickness we call a society in the first 30 seconds of this part of "They Live".

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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 8893205485

"The whole deal's like some kind of crazy game.
They put you at the starting line and the name of the game is make it through life, only everyone's out for themselves and looking to do you in at the same time.
You do what you can, but, remember, I'm gonna do my best to blow your ass away."


Particualrly relevant to this diatribe is the part at 2:03, where he says...

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"The poor and the underclass are growing.
Racial justice and human rights are non-existent.
They have created a repressive society and WE ARE THEIR UNWITTING ACCOMPLICES.
...we have been lulled into a trance.
THEY HAVE MADE US INDIFFERENT TO OURSELVES AND TO OTHERS.
WE ARE FOCUSED ONLY ON OUR OWN GAIN
.
THEY KEEP US ASLEEP.
KEEP US SELFISH.
KEEP US SEDATED.


...in other words, Moloch, or " tyrannical power to be propitiated by human subservience or sacrifice.
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Postby yathrib » Thu Nov 29, 2007 3:46 pm

Referring to all non-Abrahamic religions as "pagan," which I think is what's going on here, is like referring to all non-Christians as Satanists. You're basically using language to shoehorn everybody into your own worldview. "Pagan" is a word with a specific context and history, which is what I think Joe is saying. I feel the same way about the word "Fundamentalist" as applied to Muslims, Jews, and Hindus, although it's now so widely used that way that resistance seems futile...


Joe Hillshoist wrote:
Stephen Morgan wrote:"All blacks and asians look the same."

"All non Christians (Luciferian pagan heathens) look the same."

Maybe that's where the etymological roots of the word lie, but that's not what it means now, you prescriptivist grammar Nazi.


Prescriptivist grammar Nazi - thats a good one. I ain't not never been called a grimoire nazi before.

anyway...

What does it mean now?

Anyone whose religion doesn't fit your fundie worldview?

Dickhead yuppie wankers who want a chance to get naked with cool wiccan chicks (who we all know root like rabbits)?

People who try to find spirituality in the "natural world"?

Thelemites? Scientologists?

Indigenous religions?

What?

Yo. The land is alive, after its own fashion. It retains and resonates the energies of its inhabitants.


Obviously, and cos I think this (tho there's far more to the concept than that), and you seem to too, does that make us pagans, and according to little Johnny, are we therefore into child sacrifice, whether we know it or not?
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Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Thu Nov 29, 2007 4:14 pm

Nemo, you're one sick little monkey, I'll give you that.

You're dumb enough to think that when I said I was helping Murdoch a little I actually meant it? It must suck to live inside your head 24 hours a day.

Thanks for trashing my thread, jack-ass.
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Postby Doodad » Thu Nov 29, 2007 4:19 pm

yathrib wrote:Referring to all non-Abrahamic religions as "pagan," which I think is what's going on here, is like referring to all non-Christians as Satanists. You're basically using language to shoehorn everybody into your own worldview. "Pagan" is a word with a specific context and history, which is what I think Joe is saying. I feel the same way about the word "Fundamentalist" as applied to Muslims, Jews, and Hindus, although it's now so widely used that way that resistance seems futile...


Joe Hillshoist wrote:
Stephen Morgan wrote:"All blacks and asians look the same."

"All non Christians (Luciferian pagan heathens) look the same."

Maybe that's where the etymological roots of the word lie, but that's not what it means now, you prescriptivist grammar Nazi.


Prescriptivist grammar Nazi - thats a good one. I ain't not never been called a grimoire nazi before.

anyway...

What does it mean now?

Anyone whose religion doesn't fit your fundie worldview?

Dickhead yuppie wankers who want a chance to get naked with cool wiccan chicks (who we all know root like rabbits)?

People who try to find spirituality in the "natural world"?

Thelemites? Scientologists?

Indigenous religions?

What?

Yo. The land is alive, after its own fashion. It retains and resonates the energies of its inhabitants.


Obviously, and cos I think this (tho there's far more to the concept than that), and you seem to too, does that make us pagans, and according to little Johnny, are we therefore into child sacrifice, whether we know it or not?


Gentile, pagan, infidel. That's how it works. That pagan would be the label applied by Christian nations encountering South American ritualistic cults should come as no surprise at all. That the term should be used today by anyone outside a clinical academic perspective should also some as no surprise any more than being labeled an infidel.
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Postby John E. Nemo » Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:49 pm

Just wanna address this and I'm outta here.
Me no like being called a bigot.

BTW, big props to Stephen Morgan for daring to speak the truth to brainwashed twits.

[quote=Joe Hillshoist]How many Catholics do you know dickhead?[/quote]

Lots of them.
They love it when I point out how Catholicism is an idolatrous mind control cult, wherein its' congregation cannibalize their God, like pagans and elect Nazis to be the vicar of the Jew Christ on Earth.
Jesus loves the little children, but not as much as those pedophilic Catholic priests.

Idolatry, Nazism, pedohilia, holy wars and human sacrifice rituals are forbidden in my holy book.
There's a reason why they call themselves "Catholics" instead of Christians.

I believe Tennyson said "A lie which is half a truth is ever the blackest of lies."

[quote=Joe Hillshoist] And WTF is calling south americans Pagan? Pagans were pre Christian European people. Child sacrificers or not.[/quote]

Actually that's "heathens", which means "people of the hearth".

Every pagan I've met is proud to be a pagan.
Pagan pride!
Hug that tree!

They don't drink blood out of skulls, like the Goths did, they drink wine out of a chalice.
They don't use their "air daggers" to cut the beating hearts of their victims out like the Aztecs, but they do still have the daggers.

They still have the drunken orgies, or "skyclad lovefests" however.

[quote=Joe Hillshoist]The way you use it is no different to saying:

"All blacks and asians look the same."

"All non Christians (Luciferian pagan heathens) look the same."[/quote]

Calling your opponent a racist is my favorite diversionary "lefty" tactic.
Play that race card, baby.
It's a cheap tactic done by weak minded simps, but it's all you've got.

I have to admit that you're absolutely right that all blacks and asians look alike.
I was just noticing how all my black neighbors look just like Mao Tse Tung.

BTW, as a Jew, I want you to know that all Jews really are cheap.
So is every Greek, Italian, Hindi, Scot, Frenchman, Native American, German, Englishman, Arab, Lithuanian, Latvian, Estonian, Flemish, Swede, Panamanian, etc., etc. person I've ever met.
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Postby John E. Nemo » Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:50 pm

Just wanna address this and I'm outta here.
Me no like being called a bigot.

BTW, big props to Stephen Morgan for daring to speak the truth to brainwashed twits.

Joe Hillshoist wrote:How many Catholics do you know dickhead?


Lots of them.
They love it when I point out how Catholicism is an idolatrous mind control cult, wherein its' congregation cannibalize their God, like pagans and elect Nazis to be the vicar of the Jew Christ on Earth.
Jesus loves the little children, but not as much as those pedophilic Catholic priests.

Idolatry, Nazism, pedohilia, holy wars and human sacrifice rituals are forbidden in my holy book.
There's a reason why they call themselves "Catholics" instead of Christians.

I believe Tennyson said "A lie which is half a truth is ever the blackest of lies."

Joe Hillshoist wrote: And WTF is calling south americans Pagan? Pagans were pre Christian European people. Child sacrificers or not.


Actually that's "heathens", which means "people of the hearth".

Every pagan I've met is proud to be a pagan.
Pagan pride!
Hug that tree!

They don't drink blood out of skulls, like the Goths did, they drink wine out of a chalice.
They don't use their "air daggers" to cut the beating hearts of their victims out like the Aztecs, but they do still have the daggers.

They still have the drunken orgies, or "skyclad lovefests" however.

Joe Hillshoist wrote:The way you use it is no different to saying:

"All blacks and asians look the same."

"All non Christians (Luciferian pagan heathens) look the same."


Calling your opponent a racist is my favorite diversionary "lefty" tactic.
Play that race card, baby.
It's a cheap tactic done by weak minded simps, but it's all you've got.

I have to admit that you're absolutely right that all blacks and asians look alike.
I was just noticing how all my black neighbors look just like Mao Tse Tung.

BTW, as a Jew, I want you to know that all Jews really are cheap.
So is every Greek, Italian, Hindi, Scot, Frenchman, Native American, German, Englishman, Arab, Lithuanian, Latvian, Estonian, Flemish, Swede, Panamanian, etc., etc. person I've ever met.
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Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:07 pm

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Postby streeb » Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:16 pm

...all Jews really are cheap. So is every Greek, Italian, Hindi, Scot, Frenchman, Native American, German, ENGLISHMAN


I resent that, you bastard.
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Postby Jeff » Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:24 pm

John, you've been warned repeatedly about disruption. I'm suspending your membership for one week.
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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:39 pm

John E. Nemo wrote:Just wanna address this and I'm outta here.
Me no like being called a bigot.


Calling your opponent a racist is my favorite diversionary "lefty" tactic.
Play that race card, baby.
It's a cheap tactic done by weak minded simps, but it's all you've got.


If you don't like being called a bigot, stop acting like one.

The favorite diversionary tactic of bigots is to cry out;

Calling your opponent a racist is my favorite diversionary "lefty" tactic.


Still it doesn't get away from the fact that bigotry is bigotry, no matter how much you don't like being called on it. (And technically I didn't call you a racist, just pointed out that religious bigotry is essentially not very different from racism at all.) I'm not a catholic, but every one I've met seems to hold the same core beliefs as every other Christian, and like any religion the institution and the people who believe are very fiffernt things.

Sorry arcadia, I've nothing to add on Moloch, but I just couldn't let that slide.
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Postby sunny » Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:39 pm

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