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Calling all Canucks .... a place to cross your fingers.

Postby greencrow0 » Sat Jan 21, 2006 8:58 pm

Hi there.<br><br>I am a nervous wreck about the election taking place on Monday....I feel it will be fixed to produce a Conservative majority.<br><br>It makes me wonder why Canada has allowed that black hole called the Bloc to persist. It should be outlawed as it only runs candidates in Quebec. But, worse, it steals all the left wing votes that would normally go to the NDP and/or Liberals, thus creating a true majority for the political faction that actually has the right to run Canadian policy.<br><br>Consequently, I wonder who is funding the Bloc and how they can get away with this 'electoral black hole'.<br><br>If they weren't around, I believe it would be an NDP majority and we would have Layton as PM which would do Canada proud...instead, we have Harper looming on the horizon....<br><br>What a catastrophe! We will have to send Canadian troops to Iraq...he will give our water away and establish a NA 'perimeter' which will effectively be the end of Canada.<br><br>Does anyone see the election differently?<br><br>Is there any hope for Canada?<br><br>Thanks in advance for your contributions.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Calling all Canucks .... a place to cross your fingers.

Postby greencrow0 » Sat Jan 21, 2006 9:35 pm

Here's one of the first rational columns I've seen about the Canadian election in the MSM....it's about time!<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060121.wcomment0121/BNStory/Front/">www.theglobeandmail.com/s...ory/Front/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Vote strategically</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>By HENRY MINTZBERG <br><br>Saturday, January 21, 2006 Posted at 1:09 AM EST<br><br>Globe and Mail Update<br><br>"We Canadians have four obvious electoral choices Monday - that's the problem. And a fifth that is not so obvious, but might be the solution.<br>The obvious ones are on the ballot. Put an X next to the party of our choice.<br>We can vote Liberal, for the party that has governed so often because it has probably best represented where most of our political sentiments have been - in the moderate centre.<br>But that might only bring back an old, tired party that needs to be taught a lesson: that its corruption, or at least the arrogance that lay behind it, is the fault of the party, not just of who happened to be in control of the party. It would also put back in place more of those who have botched up the situation in Quebec time after time and still have the gall to present themselves as Canada's saviour. So perhaps the question is: Can we wake up the Liberals and teach them a lesson without teaching Canada a lesson using the devils we don't know? There are three of these. <br> In Quebec, we could bring back the Bloc Québécois. That is certainly what the Liberals deserve. But is it what Quebec deserves, let alone Canada: a marginal party sniping from the sidelines, intent on busting up a country that has given us so much? Happily, some Quebeckers now seem to be realizing this and support for the Bloc is apparently decreasing.<br>That leaves the Conservatives and the NDP. If we want change, we can take our choice, right or left.<br>Up to a few weeks ago, the Conservatives had not been able to get past about 30-per-cent support, perhaps because many Canadians remained suspicious of a party, and its leader, still associated with Alliance and Reform, as well as offering shades of George Bush's America. Things are not exactly going great guns down there, so why would we want them up here?<br>Now the Conservatives seem poised to considerably exceed that figure, largely because their leader has been saying the right things. People desperately want change, and here it is on a silver platter. But is this the change most Canadians want? During elections, all politicians are careful about saying the right things. The devil, however, is in the details, and we only find out about these after elections.<br>The Liberal leader, in contrast, has been running a lousy campaign. But did he run a lousy government? We elect people to govern, not to campaign.<br>As for the NDP, it still seems like a bit of a curiosity, at least at the federal level, with a leader many of us don't know what to make of.<br>So where does all this leave us? Exactly where it has left us over the past year-and-a-half.<br>Unless we get smart or, rather, strategic. Vote not individually but collectively, and carefully. In other words, look beyond the X on that ballot. Those of us who like Canada mostly as it is, but not the Liberal Party mostly as it is, can express our collective mind as follows, at least in ridings where a choice presents itself. (Believe me, I am not going to wrestle the Liberals out of my central Montreal riding with my vote.)<br>What I am referring to are those ridings where the Conservatives and the NDP are close. In six ridings in the last election, the NDP candidate lost to the Conservative by less than 5 percentage points. Had these gone the other way, we might have ended up with a more stable arrangement between the Liberals and the NDP, perhaps even with a formal coalition government.<br>Such a coalition would have represented an outright majority of Canadian voters, 52 per cent in all, including more than 65 per cent in each of the four Atlantic provinces, more than 62 per cent in Ontario, and 55 per cent in B.C. and Manitoba, and 51 per cent in Saskatchewan. Only in Alberta and Quebec, each with a quite different agenda, would this coalition have had less than majority support.<br>Things have, of course, shifted now. Yet add up the weakened support for the Liberals (28 per cent in today'sÖ Globe numbers), with support for the NDP (17 per cent) and you're not so far from a majority; still considerably more than the support for the Conservatives. So, depending on how the votes distribute themselves, such a coalition may still be possible - if some people vote strategically.<br>But are we ready for a coalition government? A coalition government would mean a formal arrangement by two parties to govern together, including the sharing of cabinet posts. While we have not known this in Canada, strictly speaking, it has been common in Europe. Israel is probably the best example, since the coalition of Likud with Labour, while it lasted, led to a major shift in Israeli politics.<br>Would the Liberals and the NDP co-operate in this way? If the Liberals had a plurality and the NDP controlled enough seats to give them a majority, they might have to accept such an arrangement.<br>Bear in mind the other possibility, now perhaps most likely: the Conservatives win a plurality and, with the Bloc, a majority. Sure, the Conservatives would never enter into a coalition with the Bloc. But they would want to govern, and the Bloc would be more than happy to keep them in power. What better outcome for a Quebec facing a referendum?<br>A Liberal-NDP coalition could produce the kind of government that most Canadians probably want, while giving the Liberals the kind of message most Canadians feel they need. At the same time, it would avoid a repeat of the last election, or else having to live with a political philosophy that probably a clear majority of Canadians see as failing in the United States.<br>It could even put the NDP where it can do the most good, and little harm. In this regard, bear one word in mind: medicare. Most of us cherish this system for what it says about our democracy, even if we never cease to complain about it. We have medicare thanks to the fact that the Liberal Party in the 1960s was able to govern only with the support of the NDP - for two-and-a-half years, in fact. Bear in mind, too, that the Liberal government fell in November because, claimed the NDP leader, it was not doing enough to protect medicare from privatization.<br>So let me suggest that if you care about the Canada you have, take a good look at your riding. Then vote, not for the leader you want, not for the party you want, but for the country you want."<br><br>Henry Mintzberg is Cleghorn Professor in the Desautels Faculty of Management at McGill University.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Calling all Canucks .... a place to cross your fingers.

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Sat Jan 21, 2006 9:39 pm

I'm hopeful for a Conservative minority, but I don't know that that's something to hope for. But it's the best we're going to get. In a minority they'll hide their crazies away and govern as moderates for a year and a half, pumping up their popularity for a massive majority. Then the mask drops.<br><br>My current projection is a strong Conservative minority (within 10 seats of a majority), an enormous drop for the Liberals - down to the 50-60 seat range, same as the BQ - and big gains for the NDP (possibly up to 40-50).<br><br>Following the media has been a strangely American-like experience. I've never seen the bias so pronounced here. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=rigorousintuition>Rigorous Intuition</A> at: 1/21/06 6:46 pm<br></i>
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Re: Calling all Canucks .... a place to cross your fingers.

Postby greencrow0 » Sat Jan 21, 2006 11:31 pm

Yes, Jeff,<br><br>ALL the mass media seemed to be hyping the Conservatives...but we all know they're owned/operated by the globalists and so that's no surprise.<br><br>I am hoping you're prediction is wrong. I'm hoping that Canadians are not so stupid as to not vote strategically.<br><br>I am hoping for another liberal minority with a large NDP contingent.<br><br>Where on earth do you have 60% of the people being lefties and only 40% being righties and yet we're faced with a situation where righties rule the day.<br><br>Oh, I forgot, that's the way it is south of the border too.<br><br>Thanks to the <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>voter fix guyz.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Calling all Canucks .... a place to cross your fingers.

Postby greencrow0 » Sat Jan 21, 2006 11:42 pm

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060121/election_wrap_060121/20060121?s_name=election2006">www.ctv.ca/servlet/Articl...ection2006</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>The CTV...one of our two 'national' television stations...showing it's true neoCon colours.<br><br>Pictures tell thousands of words. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Calling all Canucks .... a place to cross your fingers.

Postby Reikimg » Sun Jan 22, 2006 3:12 am

<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Oh, I forgot that's the way it is south of the border too.<br><br>Thanks to the voter fix guyz <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Consider it payback for Cirque du Soleil<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START >: --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/mad.gif ALT=">:"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>Seriously, we Americans know what its like to have an election stolen from us. If it happens in Canada it will be one of our worst exports ever. Good luck monday! <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=reikimg>Reikimg</A> at: 1/22/06 12:17 am<br></i>
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Re: I think the conservatives will not win, here's why...

Postby anotherdrew » Sun Jan 22, 2006 7:02 am

<!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:maroon;font-family:comic sans ms;font-size:large;">the election systems aren't fully-rigged, the opinion polls are, the news is too often slanted, the truth is - most Canadians are not going to vote for the conservative candidate, therefore they must and will fail.<br><br>Until I see otherwise, I can't believe otherwise.</span><!--EZCODE FONT END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>"In conclusion be strong - not in yourselves but in the Higher Power, in the strength of his boundless resource. Put on the Supreme One's complete armour so that you can successfully resist all the tyrants' methods of attack. For our fight is not against any physical enemy: it is against organizations and powers that are spiritual. We are up against the unseen power that controls this world of ignorance, and spiritual agents from the very headquarters of evil. Therefore you must wear the whole armour of the Higher Force that you may be able to resist evil in its day of power, and that even when you have fought to a standstill you may still stand your ground. Take your stand then with truth as your belt, goodness your breastplate, the good news of peace firmly on your feet, enlightenment as your helmet and in your hand the sword of the Spirit, the Word of the One Quintessence. Above all be sure you take reasoned confidence as your shield, for it can quench every burning missile the enemy hurls at you. Pay homage to the One at all times with every kind of spiritual meditation, keeping alert and persistent as you give reverence to all men and women fighting on the side of enlightenment."<br><br>Paul's letter to Ephesian initiates<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><br><br>====<br><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="font-size:x-small;">yes - enlightenment. that's a clasic example of how the bad guys take a word dangerous to them and trash it, don't believe the hype.</span><!--EZCODE FONT END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: I think the conservatives will not win, here's why...

Postby greencrow0 » Sun Jan 22, 2006 4:47 pm

Hi anotherdrew:<br><br>Thanks for your input. I know the polls are rigged. That's a given.<br><br>But I think the elections are also rigged. I believe the globalists use a combination of tactics in Canada. These include....<br><br>1. the flimsy cardboard ballot boxes, that can easily be compromised to either stuff or remove ballots after the initial count.<br><br>2. The relaying of the tallys to the MSM agents who do the final calculations which are flashed on your TV screen...These can be manipulated either by computer or by delaying the publicizing of the results until the ballot boxes can be compromised.<br><br>3. In the close contests where there is a recount...where are the ballot boxes kept in the interim? Anyone know?<br><br>You can see there are so many avenues and opportunities to 'steal the vote'. This election is at least as important to the US globalists as the one in Iraq was...and that one was a complete fraud...How could 80 percent of the population [shiites] voting as a block not get a majority...well we can see that the final result in the Iraqi election as announced a day or so ago was exactly the result the occupation was looking for...the necessity of the Shiites to form a coalition with the other factions so that they would have to allow some of the pro-occupation candidates into the government.<br><br>That is how it will be in Canada IMO...twigging the vote just enough so that Harper can get his foot in the door...then he will make the subtle and the not so subtle changes that will allow them to have an outright majority the next go round...then it's off to the races for the globalists in Canada and...<br><br>Canada will be no more.<br><br>Unless, of course the people speak up in such a convincing manner tomorrow that hanky panky is out of the question. That is the glimmer of hope on the horizon. <p></p><i></i>
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Terror Drill Scheduled for Tomorrow

Postby greencrow0 » Mon Jan 23, 2006 12:31 am

greencrowx - 9:28 PM ET January 22, 2006 (#46937 of 46937)<br>"If this be treason, Sir, why, make the most of it!" Patrick Henry<br><br>Terror Drill Scheduled for Tomorrow<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.wtopnews.com/index.php?nid=25&sid=676">www.wtopnews.com/index.ph...25&sid=676</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> [...] <br><br>Aerospace Defense Training Planned Over Potomac<br><br>Jan 22nd - 11:30am <br><br>"WASHINGTON - Low-flying fighter jets and other military aircraft are scheduled to run a series of training exercises around Washington Sunday tonight and early Monday morning. <br><br>The North American Aerospace Defense Command is conducting the training exercises over the Potomac River and around the city. <br><br>The exercise is designed to test NORAD's ability to intercept and identify aircraft that could pose a threat to the nation's capital. It involves several small Cessna aircraft and Learjets as well as an F-16 fighter jet and a Blackhawk helicopter. <br><br>NORAD has conducted such exercises throughout the U-S and Canada since the September Eleventh terrorist attacks. The exercises also help prepare for major events including the president's State of the Union speech later this month. <br>(Copyright 2006 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)" <br><br>****************** <br><br>Gee, how timely would a terrorist event be tomorrow to coincide with the NORAD 'partner's' election?<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Jack Layton already conceding defeat????

Postby greencrow0 » Mon Jan 23, 2006 3:35 am

Hi Everybody:<br><br>Here's an e-mail I purportedly got from the NDP tonight:<br><br><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Voting for the change you want</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>On Monday, Canadians will vote for change. I'm writing to urge you to vote for the change you want — change that works for working families. <br><br>This time, that means voting NDP. You can trust New Democrats to put working families first. And on Tuesday, NDP MPs will be on the job, fighting for you. <br><br>New Democrats have laid out our plan:<br><br>We’ll look after seniors and create opportunity for young people. <br>We’ll stop privatization and make public health care better. <br>We’ll clean up government and the environment. <br>We’ll put working families first, where they belong. <br>With more New Democrats on your side, we can get the job done.<br><br>To people considering voting for the <br>Liberals, I say this:<br>Paul Martin's Liberals haven't earned your vote. They promised to protect public health care — and didn't. They promised to act on climate change — and didn't. They promised national child care in 1993 — and didn’t do it until they lost their majority and we forced them to. Paul Martin says he's devoted to Charter rights — and then holds free votes on them. <br><br>The Liberals promised to be honest, and they weren't. And after five elections and 12 years, the Liberal Party needs a time-out. <br><br>To those who've considered voting <br>Conservative, I say this: <br>The Conservatives have their priorities wrong. They're all about dimes and dollars — dimes in tax cuts for working families, and big dollars for banks and oil companies. I believe there are more important things to take care of before Canada plays around with tax cuts for the rich. <br><br>Most Canadians agree it’s time for a change. And on Monday, they'll vote for it. <br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Who's going to balance the Conservatives in the next Parliament? Who's going to protect public health care, our environment, our equality rights? Who's going to fight for working families?</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>Not Paul Martin or his team. <br><br>I have tremendous respect for what the Liberal Party was able to do under past Prime Ministers. But Paul Martin's team isn't cut from the same cloth. After this election, they'll be spending their time looking inward, figuring out what they believe — not fighting for you. <br><br>In the next Parliament we need strong, principled NDP MPs on the side of working families — who will fight to protect public health care, child care, education and care for seniors.<br><br>You know how effective we are in Parliament. Look at our record. <br><br>This time, I’m asking all progressive voters to team up with us. To Liberals dismayed with their party today, I say: Lend us your vote. We'll respect it. We'll honour it. We'll act on it. <br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>We’ll balance the Conservatives in the next Parliament.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <br><br>We’ll see to it that people's priorities are front and centre. <br><br>We’ll make sure Parliament focuses on getting results for working families. <br><br>So on Monday, vote for the change you want. <br><br>On Monday, vote NDP.<br><br>Jack Layton<br>Leader, Canada's NDP"</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>It looks as though the NDP is conceding a Conservative win...could this be so? Or, is this one of those 'disinformation e-mails'? It didn't have quite the same address as the others I've received from the NDP...nor did it have quite the same the same format.<br><br>I'm leaning to it being disinformation...yet it could be one last effort to get people to vote strategically.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Five reasons why Canada can't afford Conservatives now.

Postby greencrow0 » Mon Jan 23, 2006 3:45 am

greencrowx - 10:30 PM ET January 22, 2006 (#46956 of 46964)<br>"If this be treason, Sir, why, make the most of it!" Patrick Henry<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Five major signs the end of America is nigh as listed on the Italian web site BellaCiao:</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>"Sign 1: The U.S., Great Britain and Israel are preparing to attack Iran. As it appears the main reason for invading Iraq was to stop it from selling oil in Euros, likewise Iran has plans to dump the dollar come March 2006. <br><br>"Sign 2: U.S. Treasury Secretary John Snow issued a warning recently that the U.S. Government is on the verge of collapse - as the statutory debt limit imposed by Congress of $8.184 trillion dollars would be reached in mid-February - the government would then be unable to continue its normal operations. Considering the current total U.S. debt stands at $8.162 trillion dollars, once the official debt ceiling ($8.184 trillion) is reached, the U.S. government's credit abroad (its borrowing power) is gone. Those countries (mainly China) who presently keep America afloat by holding U.S. Treasury Notes, will most likely no longer continue doing so. <br><br>"Sign 3: Bank Of America and Compass Bank managers (probably all other U.S. banks too) have been instructing their employees in the last few weeks on how to respond to customer demands in the event of a collapse of the U.S. economy - specifically telling the employees that only agents from the Department Of Homeland Security will have authority to decide what belongings customers may have from their safe deposit boxes - and that precious metals and other valuables will not be released to U.S. citizens. The bank employees have been strictly prohibited from revealing the banks' new "guidelines" to anyone. (however, employees have been talking to friends and family) <br><br>"Sign 4: FEMA has activated and is currently staffing its vast network of empty internment camps with armed military personnel - unknown to most Americans, these large federal facilities are strategically positioned across the U.S. landscape to "manage" the population in the event of a "terrorist" attack, a civilian uprising, large-scale dissent ,or an insurrection against the government. Some of these razor-wired facilities have the capacity of detaining a million people. <br><br>"Sign 5: The Patriot Act and the US Senate's vote to ban habeas corpus (Nov 14th) - along with George W. Bush having signed executive orders giving him sole authority to impose martial law, suspend habeas corpus and ignore the Posse Comitatus Act, have together pretty much destroyed any notions of freedom and justice for Americans."<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Let the Games Begin!

Postby greencrow0 » Mon Jan 23, 2006 8:56 am

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.cbc.ca/story/canadavotes2006/national/2006/01/23/fake-votes060123.html">www.cbc.ca/story/canadavo...60123.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Election Day: Voting begins amid warning about bogus election email</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>Last Updated Mon, 23 Jan 2006 05:22:01 EST <br><br>CBC News<br><br>As Canadians head to the polls Monday, Elections Canada is warning them not to be led astray by a fraudulent e-mail about the election that has been circulating. <br><br>Elections Canada said the bogus e-mail bears the agency's logo and the name of Jean-Pierre Kingsley, chief electoral officer, and incorrectly states that people can vote on two days – Monday and Tuesday. <br><br>"The only polling day is Monday, Jan. 23," Elections Canada said in a statement posted on its website. <br>"This message does not come from Elections Canada, and is against the law," the agency added. <br><br>The warning was issued as the heads of the major political parties – Liberal Leader Paul Martin, Conservative Leader Stephen Harper, New Democrat Leader Jack Layton and Bloc Québécois Leader Gilles Duceppe – whirled through a packed weekend schedule of events, rallies and appearances. <br><br>•        FROM JAN. 22, 2006: Martin courts B.C. as campaign winds down<br>•        FROM JAN. 22, 2006: Harper reaches out to Quebec voters<br>•        FROM JAN. 22, 2006: Layton criticizes Tory policies<br>•        FROM JAN. 22, 2006: Duceppe critical of Conservative cabinet offer<br><br>Electoral officials said they became aware of the e-mail after someone in a B.C. riding took a copy to the local returning officer. <br><br>Elections Canada has asked that anyone with information about the source of the message contact the agency. <br><br>The agency also said there have been reports that some candidates' materials listed incorrect information about the addresses and voting hours for polling stations. <br><br>Electoral officials said voters could check the addresses and hours of polling stations on its website or on voter information cards that were mailed out in recent."<br><br> *************<br><br>Should NOT be too difficult to trace a mass e-mailing. If nothing is done about this...that will be a bad sign.<br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Let the Games Begin!

Postby greencrow0 » Mon Jan 23, 2006 9:55 am

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://xymphora.blogspot.com/">xymphora.blogspot.com/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Monday, January 23, 2006<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Canadian election poll conspiracy</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->"<br><br>Canada holds its thirty-ninth national election today. The conspiracy angle is the way the disgusting Canadian media conspired to misuse polling data to give the radical right-wing Conservative Party - which really should be called the Republican Party North - an electoral advantage. The problem the Conservatives have is that many feel - quite accurately, I might add - that they are too extremist and out of line with Canadian values to constitute an acceptable political choice. Manipulated reports of polling data have been systematically used to get around this problem. From late December to early January the polls miraculously turned around, to put the Conservatives, who had been trailing, substantially in the lead. Suddenly, a vote for the Conservatives, which seemed to be a crazy choice, was validated by the fact that so many other Canadians apparently thought it was an acceptable choice (it's so bizarre that the Conservative leader actually argues that a vote for him is safe as he'll only end up with a minority government, meaning he won't be able to do all the things he otherwise would be able to do!). Careful analysis of the polling results shows how the results were distorted in order to create a self-fulfilling prophesy. All of the major polling companies but - perhaps - one, are run by doctrinaire Conservatives, a fact the disgusting Canadian media never bothered to mention, and they all used the same misleading tricks. The media immediately fell all over itself declaring that a Conservative victory was inevitable. The worst thing is that they tried to fool Canadians using the same methods in the last election. It didn't work then but it may work now."<br><br><br> ***************<br><br>And, in the words of the old vaudvillian performer<br><br>You ain't seen nothin yet!<br> <p></p><i></i>
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moving the goalposts

Postby finishedqq » Mon Jan 23, 2006 11:33 am

In Britain, the conservatives are more right wing than Blair, but Blair is much more right wing than Thatcher or Reagan.<br><br>That's how it works. All the British colonies (Canada, USA, Australia, New Zealand) and Britain itself have swung massively to the right in the last twenty five years. So, wish for a left wing victory if you like but that isn't how the game is being played. Rupert Murdoch chose Blair and has given him three election victories. <br><br>Forget TV politics, it's completely rigged in a way most people don't notice. As far as I'm concerned, the British poltical and economic system is now literally fascist and there is a left wing government !<br><br>I have never voted in a national election in my life. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: moving the goalposts

Postby greencrow0 » Mon Jan 23, 2006 4:56 pm

<br>Thanks for your post, finish....<br><br>I agree with you that corruption is endemic in the so-called western deMOCKracies.<br><br>Most of the population just doesn't care or doesn't want to know what lies beneath the [sparkling with distractions] surface.<br><br>It is very scary indeed...If you read my post above about the 'five signs the end is nigh for the US".<br><br>GC <p></p><i></i>
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