Illinois Legislature about to ROCK THE NATION!

by **sunny** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 6:02 pm

<a href="http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_steven_l_060422_bush_impeachment___t.htm">www.opednews.com/articles...nt___t.htm</a> April 22, 2006 Bush Impeachment - The Illinois State Legislature is Preparing to Drop a Bombshell Utilizing a little known rule of the US House to bring Impeachment charges by Steven Leser <a href="http://www.opednews.com">www.opednews.com</a> Steven Leser The Illinois General Assembly is about to rock the nation. Members of state legislatures are normally not considered as having the ability to decide issues with a massive impact to the nation as a whole. Representative Karen A. Yarbrough of Illinois' 7th District is about to shatter that perception forever. Representative Yarbrough stumbled on a little known and never utlitized rule of the US House of Representatives, Section 603 of Jefferson's Manual of the Rules of the United States House of Representatives, which allows federal impeachment proceedings to be initiated by joint resolution of a state legislature. From there, Illinois House Joint Resolution 125 (hereafter to be referred to as HJR0125) was born. Detailing five specific charges against President Bush including one that is specified to be a felony, the complete text of HJR0125 is copied below at the end of this article. One of the interesting points is that one of the items, the one specified as a felony, that the NSA was directed by the President to spy on American citizens without warrant, is not in dispute. That fact should prove an interesting dilemma for a Republican controlled US House that clearly is not only loathe to initiate impeachment proceedings, but does not even want to thoroughly investigate any of the five items brought up by the Illinois Assembly as high crimes and/or misdemeanors. Should HJR0125 be passed by the Illinois General Assembly, the US House will be forced by House Rules to take up the issue of impeachment as a privileged bill, meaning it will take precedence over other House business. The Illinois General Assembly joins a growing chorus of voices calling for censure or impeachment of President Bush including Democratic state committees in Vermont, Wisconsin, New Mexico, Nevada and North Carolina as well as the residents themselves of seven towns in Vermont, seventy Vermont state legislators and Congressman John Conyers. The call for impeachment is starting to grow well beyond what could be considered a fringe movement. An ABC News/Washington Post Poll Conducted April 6-9 showed that 33% of Americans currently support Impeaching President Bush, coincidentally, only a similar amount supported impeaching Nixon at the start of the Watergate investigation. If and when Illinois HJR0125 hits the capitol and the individual charges are publicly investigated, that number is likely to grow rapidly. Combined with the very real likelihood that Rove is about to be indicted in the LeakGate investigation, and Bush is in real trouble beyond his plummeting poll numbers. His cronies in the Republican dominated congress will probably save him from the embarassment of an impeachment conviction, for now, but his Presidency will be all but finished. ---------------------------------------------------------- HJ0125 LRB094 20306 RLC 58347 r 1 HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION 2 WHEREAS, Section 603 of Jefferson's Manual of the Rules of 3 the United States House of Representatives allows federal 4 impeachment proceedings to be initiated by joint resolution of 5 a state legislature; and 6 WHEREAS, President Bush has publicly admitted to ordering 7 the National Security Agency to violate provisions of the 1978 8 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, a felony, specifically 9 authorizing the Agency to spy on American citizens without 10 warrant; and 11 WHEREAS, Evidence suggests that President Bush authorized 12 violation of the Torture Convention of the Geneva Conventions, 13 a treaty regarded a supreme law by the United States 14 Constitution; and 15 WHEREAS, The Bush Administration has held American 16 citizens and citizens of other nations as prisoners of war 17 without charge or trial; and 18 WHEREAS, Evidence suggests that the Bush Administration 19 has manipulated intelligence for the purpose of initiating a 20 war against the sovereign nation of Iraq, resulting in the 21 deaths of large numbers of Iraqi civilians and causing the 22 United States to incur loss of life, diminished security and 23 billions of dollars in unnecessary expenses; and 24 WHEREAS, The Bush Administration leaked classified 25 national secrets to further a political agenda, exposing an 26 unknown number of covert U. S. intelligence agents to potential 27 harm and retribution while simultaneously refusing to 28 investigate the matter; and 29 WHEREAS, The Republican-controlled Congress has declined HJ0125 - 2 - LRB094 20306 RLC 58347 r 1 to fully investigate these charges to date; therefore, be it 2 RESOLVED, BY THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES OF THE 3 NINETY-FOURTH GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE STATE OF ILLINOIS, THE 4 SENATE CONCURRING HEREIN, that the General Assembly of the 5 State of Illinois has good cause to submit charges to the U. S. 6 House of Representatives under Section 603 that the President 7 of the United States has willfully violated his Oath of Office 8 to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United 9 States; and be it further 10 RESOLVED, That George W. Bush, if found guilty of the 11 charges contained herein, should be removed from office and 12 disqualified to hold any other office in the United States. Take action -- click here to contact your local newspaper or congress people: Support the Impeachment of President Bush Click here to see the most recent messages sent to congressional reps and local newspapers Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=sunny@rigorousintuition>sunny</A> at: 4/23/06 4:15 pm

by **greencrow0** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 6:38 pm

all the best for this isolated...but very courageous movement in Illinois. After all, there must be some white hats brave enough to walk through the swinging doors of the Black Hat Saloon.<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)">

by **slimmouse** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 7:53 pm

Nice I guess. Question is ......can they get Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld, Bush Sr, Clinton, Kissinger, Blair, Goss, Clarke, Guliani,Sharon,Delay,Wolfowitz, Ledeen, Berlusconi, Perle, Armitage, Colin Powell,Tenet, Straw, Clarke ( Charles) Abramhoff, Peres, Feith, et cetera et cetera et cetera et cetera ( feel free to add any of the multitude Ive missed) And then of course, can they deal with the layer over and above such reprehensible traitors to humanity as the first crowd ? Thats when the list starts to become really short. But of course this proverbial Russian dolls house aint ' quite that simple', is it ? Ordo abs Chao is just some fancy jargon right ? I have to say, Ive become increasingly dissillusioned with certain intellectuals on this board. Namely, those who are constantly being bombarded with plainly connecting metaphorical dots, and yet for all their 'intellect', they seem incapable of joining. Its almost as if they are hypnotised by some peculiar force or other ( a green light perhaps ), and cant see the obvious for "sophistications" sake. And I have to say, to any logical person reading this board, one must ask the obvious question why ?

by **thoughtographer** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 8:29 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>Ordo abs Chao is just some fancy jargon right ? I have to say, Ive become increasingly dissillusioned with certain intellectuals on this board. Namely, those who are constantly being bombarded with plainly connecting metaphorical dots, and yet for all their 'intellect', they seem incapable of joining. Its almost as if they are hypnotised by some peculiar force or other ( a green light perhaps ), and cant see the obvious for "sophistications" sake. And I have to say, to any logical person reading this board, one must ask the obvious question why ? <hr></blockquote> Get over yourself. I'm glad that you have such clarity of vision regarding the people you disagree with and all -- but how does someone who claims to grasp the underlying complexities of the universe justify taking such a reductionist stand on something as big as this? Looking at things from your perspective, it would seem that the situation is quite a bit like a child's "connect-the-dots" game; the image is mostly drawn-in, leaving only a simple task of following a sequence of integers in serial order. Insulting those who don't adopt this same prescribed view of things by accusing them of what amounts to snobbery is downright juvenile, and seemingly at cross-purposes with your goals. I hope you trust the people leaving you this breadcrumb trail, because it's obvious that you didn't leave it for yourself. "A crooked stick will cast a crooked shadow."Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=thoughtographer>thoughtographer</A> at: 4/23/06 6:46 pm

by **slimmouse** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 8:48 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>Get over yourself. I'm glad that you have such clarity of vision regarding the people you disagree with and all -- but how does someone who claims to grasp the underlying complexities of the universe justify taking such a reductionist stand on something like this? Looking at things from your perspective, it would seem that the situation is quite a bit like a child's "connect-the-dots" game; the image is mostly drawn-in, leaving only a simple task of following a sequence of integers in serial order. Insulting those who don't adopt this same prescribed view of things by accusing them of what amounts to snobbery is downright juvenile, and seemingly at cross-purposes with your goals. I hope you trust the people leaving you this breadcrumb trail, because it's obvious that you didn't leave it for yourself.<hr></blockquote> Seriously, what do I, you or anyone else have to lose at this point ? And what does it matter in the greater context of things anyway, so long as you speak from the solar plexis ! I guess thats where the true leap of faith lies. But, from where Im sat,these madmen need confronting at any (insignificant) personal cost is my own view. And BTW, the universe aint really all that complex a place, providing of course you dont allow scientists to convince you that it it <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"> The lunatic is in the hall. The lunatics are in my hall. The paper holds their folded faces to the floor And every day the paper boy brings more. And if the dam breaks open many years too soon And if there is no room upon the hill And if your head explodes with dark forebodings too I'll see you on the dark side of the moon.

by **thoughtographer** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 9:04 pm

Shine on, you crazy diamond... I'm not trying to stop you, so don't blame me if you become distracted. We each play our parts, even if we can't find the script. "A crooked stick will cast a crooked shadow."Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=thoughtographer>thoughtographer</A> at: 4/23/06 7:05 pm

by **steve vegas** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 12:22 am

At this point, any resistance is a good thing, regardless of whether it will get shot down by the Republican congress if the resolution passes in Illinois. Those state legislators are risking considerable harm and retribution and should be applauded for their bravery. While I agree that impeaching the little weasel is just one battle in the war, it would be significant. We have to attack the greedheads in every way possible.

by **greencrow0** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 12:28 am

Used to be, a couple of well placed editorials would bring down a cabalista government. Now, Nothing can bring this horror to an end. Nothing. Not an election, [they cheat] not an impeachment [they bought all the judges]. Nothing.

by **greencrow0** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 12:51 am

from waynemadsenreport.com <blockquote>Quote:<hr>April 23, 2006 -- Forget impeachment, concentrate on the 25th Amendment to the Constitution. Section 4 of the 25th Amendment to the Constitution states, "Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President." The Amendment contains other more detailed procedural rules that must be followed. It is clear that George W. Bush is not mentally capable of carrying out his presidential duties. It is also clear that the Congress and Vice President are unwilling to invoke the above constitutional requirements. In the case of a private citizen who is mentally disabled, first two next of kin can have the individual institutionalized. In the absence of family members, that responsibility would fall to someone with power of attorney. Lacking power of attorney, law enforcement or another government agency, acting with a judicial warrant, could have the person institutionalized. In the case of Mr. Bush, his family, Vice President, Cabinet, and Congress are unwilling to act to remove a clearly mentally incapacitated individual from office. The U.S. Joint Chiefs, who also took an oath to uphold the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, could seek out a Federal judge to authorize the removal of Bush from office. The argument could be based on an in extremis situation in which a mentally ill president is endangering the public safety and national security and those empowered by the 25th Amendment to initiate removal procedures are unwilling to carry out their constitutional obligations. U.S. jurisprudence is based on case law. In this case, in the absence of case law, those in authority must think originally and let the courts sort out the matter after the fact. However, having a nuclear arsenal in the hands of a madman intent on using it (the "ticking bomb scenario mentioned in reference to terrorism), leaves no time for wrangling over legal minutia. The Armed Forces clearly have the Constitution on their side in checking the "The Decider."<hr></blockquote>

by **Et in Arcadia ego** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 12:54 am

Chin up, greencrow0..

by **StarmanSkye** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 1:49 am

C'mon, we all know The rot at the top extends far beyond the office of President, who in any case is an unelected self-indulgent pampered chump and not the legitimate choice of We, The People. The VP, Sec. of Defense, Christ -- the whole friggin' Cabinet is occupied by self-deluded, power-mad, paranoid war-criminals, schemers and sycophants under the sway of a dangerous, fascist ideology promoted by some of the world's most powerful corporations, crime-syndicates, defense-industry and energy conglomerates, banks, financial services, multi-billion-dollar foundations, think-tanks, foreign-agent lobbies, special interest groups and blue-blood families. If the 'prez' didn't have the backing of and crucial support from his party and powerful legislators, key figures in the Pentagon and State Dept., Governors and Mayors, the CIA and NSA, he couldn't do diddley. The fact that the President is openly being pitched a nuclear strike on Iraq which numerous high-profile politicos and public policy analysts have shown they're on-board for, while the Republican Party and Congress isn't in full-scale crisis-mode and the News Media and editorials remain mostly mum, shows how deeply sick the whole society has become. If the American people had their hearts in the right place and their heads screwed on they'd have demanded a thorough house-cleaning before now. I think the real deal is that collectively the whole dang nation (if it's even possible to think in such all-inclusive terms) doesn't want to face any consequences for more than a century of enormously destructive, wrong-headed policies, with leaders and powerful, wealthy elites hijacking government and subverting basic principles. The public has been buffaloed for so long they're basically clueless, they can't even imagine the subtle forms of tyranny and oppression they've been conditioned to. I suppose they'll have to find their courage and integrity, and reclaim the full power and majesty of a genuine people-based democracy based on rule of law and emphasizing peace, human justice and cooperation, by taking baby-steps. A lot of eyes have begun to be opened by the horrible truth of an out-of-control government that pretends to be 'serving' the people which has caused unimaginable suffering and a systematic looting of the public treasury. So I suppose that's something -- the Generals speaking out, and now state lawmakers in Illinois and also Vermont taking the iniative to demand Congress act on legitimate concerns about serious abuse of power. Perhaps, just perhaps, the people may yet find their courage and voice. Hopefully, before their inaction allows even greater, horrific catastrophe than has already occurred to the many hundreds of thousands of victims of the Bush regime's many crimes. Starman ****** <a href="http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060422/NEWS02/604220307/1007&theme=">www.burlingtonfreepress.c...007&theme=</a> Almost 70 Vermont lawmakers sign Bush impeachment letter Published: Saturday, April 22, 2006 The Associated Press NEWFANE -- Almost 70 Vermont legislators have signed a letter urging Congress to begin an investigation of President Bush's domestic surveillance program and the reasons for the war in Iraq and, which would lead to impeachment proceedings, if warranted. The letter written by Rep. Richard Marek, D-Newfane, was signed by 56 members of the House and 13 members of the Senate. No Republicans have signed the letter. The letter will be sent to the members of Vermont's congressional delegation. Marek's letter asks Congress to hold hearings to determine if censure or "setting in motion the constitutional process for possible removal from office" are necessary. "Vermonters from across the state have expressed concerns with the president's actions and have displayed that through resolutions, meetings and petitions," Marek said. "I thought it was important to put our voices down as supporting an investigation and possible censure and impeachment," he said. Earlier this month the Democratic State Committee urged Congress to begin impeachment proceedings against the president, but decided against asking the Legislature to join that call. Democratic committees in at least eight Vermont counties have adopted similar resolutions. On Town Meeting Day a number of towns also passed similar resolutions. The town of Newfane, which Marek represents, was the first community to call for Bush's impeachment. Rep. Alice Emmons, D-Springfield, said she felt Bush's policies needed to be investigated. "I feel as an American that what is happening is not right," Emmons said. "This administration needs to be investigated fairly and openly because what has happened has raised many questions."

by **sunny** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 8:47 am

<a href="http://www.democrats.com/blog/4716" target="top">California Joins the Fray!</a>

by **Dreams End** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 9:41 am

Madsen really wants the military to take charge, doesn't he? I guess the whole idea of civilian state legislatures and civilian impeachment proceedings really rubs him the wrong way. Maybe it's all their shiny metals and spiffy uniforms. Is his position REALLY that Bush is the sole problem here, and that because he's mentally incompetent? Does he REALLY want Cheney to take over?

by **NavnDansk** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 9:35 pm

the bandwagon. Impeachment of Bush AND CHENEY now on the table!<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"> <a href="http://wakeupfromyourslumber.blogspot.com">wakeupfromyourslumber.blogspot.com</a> The Truth Will Set You Free "....At both the state and national levels," Koretz said, "we will be paying for the Bush Administration's illegal actions and terrible lack of judgment and competence for decades—not only in the billions of dollars wasted on the war and welfare for the rich, but in the worldwide loss of respect for America and Americans. Bush and Cheney must be impeached and removed from office before they undertake even deadlier misdeeds, such as the use of nuclear weapons. There are no bounds to their willingness to ignore the Constitution and world opinion—we can't afford to wait for the next disaster and hope that we can survive it." For more information and to thank this American hero, contact Paul Michael Neuman in Koretz's District Office: (310) 285-5490 paul.neuman@asm.ca.gov or go here. Now, THAT'S action! I already thanked him from the bottom of my heart. I recommend you do the same. This is our last chance before those trigger happy maniacs thrust US into WWIII."

by **NavnDansk** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 9:45 pm

<div style="text-align:center"><blockquote>Quote:<hr>"Madsen really wants the military to take charge, doesn't he? I guess the whole idea of civilian state legislatures and civilian impeachment proceedings really rubs him the wrong way. Maybe it's all their shiny metals and spiffy uniforms."<hr></blockquote></div> According to many dKos posters, the State Legislatures are a symbolic gesture, which may be powerful because the Congress has to act one way or another which would out those in favor of letting this destructive, runaway bush train continue. The Repugs could table it, but they would be exposed and the media and the American people may or may not pay attention. The Dems voted for the Patriot Act without Feingold's ammendments by a vote of 95-4 on March 1, 2006. That was because of "an offer they couldn't refuse" by Buschco. In Dec. the Dems and some repugs refused to vote on the Patriot Act until there had been substantial changes to support civil liberties. What happened between Dec. 2005 and March 1, 2006 that caused ALL the Dems but Feingold and Leahy to cave? Two independents voted against, one Jeffords, I believe is not seeking another term. Even if Impeached, would bush/cheney leave without a gun battle? I had read that in addition to the Secret Service, bush has Blackwater or some other mercs guarding him because he does not trust the SS. I read also that the Grand Jury investigating Nixon's crimes were told by the Federal Marshalls that they could not protect them if they handed down articles of Impeachment against Nixon. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=navndansk>NavnDansk</A> at: 4/24/06 7:57 pm

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