ET's to arrive in 2017; referred to as 'The Controllers'

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Postby nomo » Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:15 pm

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne ... _updat.htm

Confirmation & Update on Secret UFO Meeting at UN

by Michael Salla, Ph.D.

I recently circulated an article describing a secret meeting that allegedly occurred at the New York office of the United Nations discussing UFOs/extraterrestrial life. The confidential source for the meeting is presently working as a member of the diplomatic community who relayed this information to two New York based researchers, Shawn and Clay Pickering. I am pleased to announce that I have received independent confirmation that the alleged meeting did occur on the morning of February 12, 2008 as Clay’s and Shawn’s source claimed. I was also given information by an independent source, who I believe is very reliable, on what transpired at the meeting. It was claimed that a document had been circulated at the meeting, and was now being relayed to key ministries of many nations for further study and comments.

I have yet to witness the document which allegedly refers to an offer by extraterrestrials to help prepare humanity for the disclosure of extraterrestrial life. The meeting also apparently discussed how the UN was being encouraged to take a proactive stand on the release of secret technologies that will enable the development of free energy. The date 2013 was given as the time when extraterrestrials would unambiguously appear. This was consistent with the date given in my earlier article. I will share more information on the alleged document circulated at the UN meeting and the independent source confirming the meeting in my next communication on this unfolding UN initiative on UFOs/extraterrestrial life.

What follows next is a report of a further meeting between Clay and Shawn Pickering and their confidential source regarding the UN meeting on UFOs held on the morning of February 12, 2008. They pointed out that the “unambiguous showing up” of extraterrestrial life – sitting over major cities - would occur in 2017, rather than 2013 as described in the earlier article. The role of religion and population growth was also allegedly discussed, and appeared to raise many issues at the meeting, especially for India.

A significant descriptive term chosen by Clay’s and Shawn’s source for the extraterrestrials that would show up in 2017 was “The Controllers.” Such a term has clear psychological connotations and was chosen to have a particular effect on the target audience – both UN member states in attendance and the general public to which the information was being leaked. This is a clue that Clay’s/Shawn’s source is conveying information that has been designed to trigger a certain psychological reaction that influences how issues are framed and discussed.

Another aspect of the following report is that it was claimed that India would have a difficult time processing disclosure of extraterrestrial life, possibly leading to the elimination of Hinduism. This appears inconsistent with India’s long tradition of advanced technologies and extraterrestrial life in its Vedic texts, and multiplicity of gods. If, as the confidential source claims, that Roman Catholics will have an easier time with disclosure due to the belief of “three Gods in one”, so too might a religion like Hinduism which has a multiplicity of gods and is very eclectic.

I believe that the mention of India as a country that might experience disclosure problems is likely a fabrication intended to confuse disclosure related issues. When combined with the use of the descriptive term for extraterrestrials, “The Controllers” designed to trigger a particular psychological reaction and lead discussions in a certain direction, the possibility that the information is being relayed through an intelligence agency with considerable expertise in manipulating human psychology cannot be discounted. In the earlier message (February 13), Clay’s and Shawn’s confidential source referred to an Admiral who was the ultimate authority for disclosure of the UN meeting to UFO/exopolitical community. Is this evidence that the Office of Naval Investigations is involved in the UFO disclosure initiative at the UN, or at least filtering information to be released to the UN/general public?

Most interesting for me was contrasting the agenda of the meeting revealed by Clay’s and Shawn’s confidential source, and what I had been told by my independent source. My independent source focused on issues concerning the release of restricted technologies for new energy sources and a document for feedback, while Clay’s and Shawn’s confidential source focused on population growth and religion. Curiously, Clay’s and Shawn’s source did not mention any document being circulated to UN member states for feedback.

In conclusion, I am now satisfied that a meeting took place at the UN headquarters in New York of February 12 to discuss the issue of UFOs and extraterrestrial. What transpired at the meeting itself appears to differ according to the confidential source Clay and Shawn have cited, and the independent source used to confirm the meeting. The emergence of the alleged document circulated at the meeting and relayed to key ministries of other nations will help considerably in clarifying what was discussed. The possible role of the Office of Naval Intelligence in filtering information that is being related through Clay’s and Shawn’s confidential source is something that cannot be discounted when considering what was specifically discussed at the UN meeting. I look forward to reviewing any documents circulated at the meeting to get a better idea of the agenda issues discussed involving the role the UN would play in public disclosure of extraterrestrial life.

[Report Follows]

----- Original Message ----
From: Shawn and Clay
To: drsalla@exopolitics.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 9:21:17 AM
Subject: Follow up of source's UFO meeting at the UN


Dear Michael,

This email is a follow up of the UN meeting which took place Tuesday 12, 2008 at 8;00AM.

We met our source 7:00PM, Monday, February 18, 2008. Our source stated the following:

1) The meeting went well; however, our source left with a degree of frustration.

2) The meeting covered various topics. The issue of recent UFO sightings was one of many topics discussed.

3) Security around the meeting was intense.

4) Everyone was searched. Pens, pins, key chain items were collected and not allowed in the meeting room. There were multiple security checkpoints. UN security cards were confiscated upon entering the room.

5) 50 to 60 people attended. Everyone was in civilian dress, except one Russian.

6) Other countries may have had military there, but they came under their respective civilian titles.

7) UFO topic was addressed. The Russians are very paranoid about the west. Putin is not very trusting. This frustrated our source greatly. Our source believes the Russians will eventually come around; "They always come back to the table." This mistrust appears to be an ongoing issue between East & West.

8) The religious implications of contact came up during the meeting. It turned into a 20 minute debate. Our source had to reel it in and refocus the meeting. It seems that the Indians are very difficult to deal with on this issue of the religious implications regarding contact. Population is a major factor in how nation-states deal with a new paradigm. The Indian's world view has led to an unsustainable food, energy and water demand. Source stated that the world must gets its population and resource use under control. ET will help, but we must show them that we intend to live within our constraints. If we don't show some semblance of intent, they simply will not help.

9) Source said the 2013 date of official contact is wrong. That is the date when things heat up. The real date of contact is 2017. It is on this date when very large craft will appear above cities and sit. There will be NO use of force; they will just sit there. Source stated the "Independence Day" film was close, but their ships are not that big and, again, no use of force will occur. Our source cannot reveal his source for the 2017 date. His source is very high up in the government/military/intelligence structure.

10) Source stated that it is our choice how we embrace this contact.

11) The ET's who will arrive on 2017 are referred to as "The Controllers." They are a "galactic federation" type group; however, "galactic federation" is not the real name for their group--it is hypothetical name used as a reference.

12) The controllers have a keen sense of freedom and free will. They will not intervene and help humanity if humanity does not show them we want their help. If some entropic event happens (nuclear war), the controllers will not make contact. "This is something they will not tolerate," our source stated.

13) The controllers will not give us technology to expand our ability to feed ourselves if we do not recognize the necessity to stabilize our population growth. They don't want our planet's population to double because of a technological innovation seeded by them. Our source used India as an example, " India has over 1 billion people. It is clearly a country out of balance in terms of its population size."

14) A contentious moment in the meeting had to do with the religious implications of contact. It is this issue which is of most concern. Our source stated that the more secular societies will adjust more easily to contact than the fundamentalist. He stated," The Roman Catholic countries will not have a rough time, except for the population problem; the Roman Catholics already have three Gods in one, so accepting others is not that much of a stretch. The dividing point is going to be the containment of population. The Protestant countries will deal fairly easily with contact. So will countries with indigenous religions connected to nature. The Muslim, Hindu, and fundamentalist Christian religions will have the most difficult time, possibly even the elimination of said religions; we can expect mass suicides, social unrest and upheaval. The ETs will help with re-programming and the concept of an inclusive galactic order. However, society will have to step up to the plate to assist - one on one - those people who have shattered belief systems The Chinese will have no problem because of the Buddhist and Taoist influences."

Clay and Shawn Pickering
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Postby Searcher08 » Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:32 pm

Very interesting - the idea that Hinduism would be the religion that has most problems with a disclosure situation to me is 100% wrong - I think it would be one religion which would have NO problem, especially given e.g. the whole Vimanas episode in the Ramayana and historically Hinduism would cross-pollinate with most religions it came in contact with...

Calling the e.ts "The Controllers" ??? also begs the question - Controllers of what? or of whom?
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Postby Jeff » Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:37 pm

Searcher08 wrote:Very interesting - the idea that Hinduism would be the religion that has most problems with a disclosure situation to me is 100% wrong


Absolutely. I don't know where this could possibly come from. It seems almost like a wink meaning "what you are about to read is bullshit."

Calling the e.ts "The Controllers" ???


"When combined with the use of the descriptive term for extraterrestrials, “The Controllers” designed to trigger a particular psychological reaction and lead discussions in a certain direction, the possibility that the information is being relayed through an intelligence agency with considerable expertise in manipulating human psychology cannot be discounted."

Very true.
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Postby Penguin » Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:38 pm

Masters of the Universe, Solar System Comptrollers...
Sounds like a militant space brother race to me..
And if theyre communicating with UN and US military, that tells me all I need to know (never mind if its factual or not). If its factual, then ill be building my UFO buster rockets in my basement. Gimme a holler when they coming!
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Postby Searcher08 » Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:41 pm

Very interesting - the idea that Hinduism would be the religion that has most problems with a disclosure situation to me is 100% wrong - I think it would be one religion which would have NO problem, especially given e.g. the whole Vimanas episode in the Ramayana and historically Hinduism would cross-pollinate with most religions it came in contact with...

Calling the e.ts "The Controllers" ??? also begs the question - Controllers of what? or of whom?

Weird - I dont remember double posting!! Sorry!
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Postby teamdaemon » Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:14 pm

Does anyone else think that the entire thing is made up? I do.
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Postby NeonLX » Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:35 pm

teamdaemon wrote:Does anyone else think that the entire thing is made up? I do.


That was my first reaction. And second and third, for that matter.

The Hinduism part really pegged my BS meter.
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Re: Clay and Shawn = CLAY SHAW = KEYWORD HIJACKING

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:37 pm

Haw haw. "Clay and Shawn Pickering."
Ever heard of Clay Shaw? The only man prosecuted for the murder of JFK?

This is just viral marketing disinfo using KEYWORD HIJACKING related to this year's 45th anniversary of the CIA murder of JFK.

CLAY SHAW was unsuccessfully prosecuted by New Orleans District Attorney Jim Garrioson from 1967-1969 but CLAY SHAW was revealed to be a CIA asset after the CIA-sabotaged trial. (transcripts in RI's Data Dump)
http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?t=8526

During the 1967-1969 trial the name of DA Jim Garrison was keyword hijacked with an ABC television show called 'Garrison's Gorillas' complete with a comic book series.
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So this 'UN-UFO' disinfo article is spook decoy using UFO's to spread it around the internet and try to dilute the Garrison Prosecutes CLAY SHAW story about JFK's murder.

The source is Dr. Salla and his website is 100% disinformation-
http://www.exopolitics.org/

I love this graphic from that disinfo site. Gee what's the message?--
(on edit: url instead of jpg to prevent page spread.
It's UFOs and the words "Iraq and Afghanistan" descending on the White House like a scene out of the movie 'Independence Day.' Not too obvious, ay?)
http://www.exopolitics.org/assets/exopolitics_banner.jpg

nomo wrote:http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_michael__080220_confirmation__26_updat.htm

Confirmation & Update on Secret UFO Meeting at UN

by Michael Salla, Ph.D.
.....
The confidential source for the meeting is presently working as a member of the diplomatic community who relayed this information to two New York based researchers, Shawn and Clay Pickering. I am pleased to announce that I have received independent confirmation that the alleged meeting did occur on the morning of February 12, 2008 as Clay’s and Shawn’s source claimed. I was also given information by an independent source, who I believe is very reliable, on what transpired at the meeting. It was claimed that a document had been circulated at the meeting, and was now being relayed to key ministries of many nations for further study and comments.

I have yet to witness the document which allegedly refers to an offer by extraterrestrials to help prepare humanity for the disclosure of extraterrestrial life. The meeting also apparently discussed how the UN was being encouraged to take a proactive stand on the release of secret technologies that will enable the development of free energy. The date 2013 was given as the time when extraterrestrials would unambiguously appear. This was consistent with the date given in my earlier article. I will share more information on the alleged document circulated at the UN meeting and the independent source confirming the meeting in my next communication on this unfolding UN initiative on UFOs/extraterrestrial life.

What follows next is a report of a further meeting between Clay and Shawn Pickering and their confidential source regarding the UN meeting on UFOs held on the morning of February 12, 2008. They pointed out that the “unambiguous showing up” of extraterrestrial life – sitting over major cities - would occur in 2017, rather than 2013 as described in the earlier article. The role of religion and population growth was also allegedly discussed, and appeared to raise many issues at the meeting, especially for India.

A significant descriptive term chosen by Clay’s and Shawn’s source for the extraterrestrials that would show up in 2017 was “The Controllers.” Such a term has clear psychological connotations and was chosen to have a particular effect on the target audience – both UN member states in attendance and the general public to which the information was being leaked. This is a clue that Clay’s/Shawn’s source is conveying information that has been designed to trigger a certain psychological reaction that influences how issues are framed and discussed.

Another aspect of the following report is that it was claimed that India would have a difficult time processing disclosure of extraterrestrial life, possibly leading to the elimination of Hinduism. This appears inconsistent with India’s long tradition of advanced technologies and extraterrestrial life in its Vedic texts, and multiplicity of gods. If, as the confidential source claims, that Roman Catholics will have an easier time with disclosure due to the belief of “three Gods in one”, so too might a religion like Hinduism which has a multiplicity of gods and is very eclectic.

I believe that the mention of India as a country that might experience disclosure problems is likely a fabrication intended to confuse disclosure related issues. When combined with the use of the descriptive term for extraterrestrials, “The Controllers” designed to trigger a particular psychological reaction and lead discussions in a certain direction, the possibility that the information is being relayed through an intelligence agency with considerable expertise in manipulating human psychology cannot be discounted. In the earlier message (February 13), Clay’s and Shawn’s confidential source referred to an Admiral who was the ultimate authority for disclosure of the UN meeting to UFO/exopolitical community. Is this evidence that the Office of Naval Investigations is involved in the UFO disclosure initiative at the UN, or at least filtering information to be released to the UN/general public?

Most interesting for me was contrasting the agenda of the meeting revealed by Clay’s and Shawn’s confidential source, and what I had been told by my independent source. My independent source focused on issues concerning the release of restricted technologies for new energy sources and a document for feedback, while Clay’s and Shawn’s confidential source focused on population growth and religion. Curiously, Clay’s and Shawn’s source did not mention any document being circulated to UN member states for feedback.

In conclusion, I am now satisfied that a meeting took place at the UN headquarters in New York of February 12 to discuss the issue of UFOs and extraterrestrial. What transpired at the meeting itself appears to differ according to the confidential source Clay and Shawn have cited, and the independent source used to confirm the meeting. The emergence of the alleged document circulated at the meeting and relayed to key ministries of other nations will help considerably in clarifying what was discussed. The possible role of the Office of Naval Intelligence in filtering information that is being related through Clay’s and Shawn’s confidential source is something that cannot be discounted when considering what was specifically discussed at the UN meeting. I look forward to reviewing any documents circulated at the meeting to get a better idea of the agenda issues discussed involving the role the UN would play in public disclosure of extraterrestrial life.

[Report Follows]

----- Original Message ----
From: Shawn and Clay
To: drsalla@exopolitics.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 9:21:17 AM
Subject: Follow up of source's UFO meeting at the UN


Dear Michael,

This email is a follow up of the UN meeting which took place Tuesday 12, 2008 at 8;00AM.

We met our source 7:00PM, Monday, February 18, 2008. Our source stated the following:

1) The meeting went well; however, our source left with a degree of frustration.

2) The meeting covered various topics. The issue of recent UFO sightings was one of many topics discussed.

3) Security around the meeting was intense.

4) Everyone was searched. Pens, pins, key chain items were collected and not allowed in the meeting room. There were multiple security checkpoints. UN security cards were confiscated upon entering the room.

5) 50 to 60 people attended. Everyone was in civilian dress, except one Russian.

6) Other countries may have had military there, but they came under their respective civilian titles.

7) UFO topic was addressed. The Russians are very paranoid about the west. Putin is not very trusting. This frustrated our source greatly. Our source believes the Russians will eventually come around; "They always come back to the table." This mistrust appears to be an ongoing issue between East & West.

8) The religious implications of contact came up during the meeting. It turned into a 20 minute debate. Our source had to reel it in and refocus the meeting. It seems that the Indians are very difficult to deal with on this issue of the religious implications regarding contact. Population is a major factor in how nation-states deal with a new paradigm. The Indian's world view has led to an unsustainable food, energy and water demand. Source stated that the world must gets its population and resource use under control. ET will help, but we must show them that we intend to live within our constraints. If we don't show some semblance of intent, they simply will not help.

9) Source said the 2013 date of official contact is wrong. That is the date when things heat up. The real date of contact is 2017. It is on this date when very large craft will appear above cities and sit. There will be NO use of force; they will just sit there. Source stated the "Independence Day" film was close, but their ships are not that big and, again, no use of force will occur. Our source cannot reveal his source for the 2017 date. His source is very high up in the government/military/intelligence structure.

10) Source stated that it is our choice how we embrace this contact.

11) The ET's who will arrive on 2017 are referred to as "The Controllers." They are a "galactic federation" type group; however, "galactic federation" is not the real name for their group--it is hypothetical name used as a reference.

12) The controllers have a keen sense of freedom and free will. They will not intervene and help humanity if humanity does not show them we want their help. If some entropic event happens (nuclear war), the controllers will not make contact. "This is something they will not tolerate," our source stated.

13) The controllers will not give us technology to expand our ability to feed ourselves if we do not recognize the necessity to stabilize our population growth. They don't want our planet's population to double because of a technological innovation seeded by them. Our source used India as an example, " India has over 1 billion people. It is clearly a country out of balance in terms of its population size."

14) A contentious moment in the meeting had to do with the religious implications of contact. It is this issue which is of most concern. Our source stated that the more secular societies will adjust more easily to contact than the fundamentalist. He stated," The Roman Catholic countries will not have a rough time, except for the population problem; the Roman Catholics already have three Gods in one, so accepting others is not that much of a stretch. The dividing point is going to be the containment of population. The Protestant countries will deal fairly easily with contact. So will countries with indigenous religions connected to nature. The Muslim, Hindu, and fundamentalist Christian religions will have the most difficult time, possibly even the elimination of said religions; we can expect mass suicides, social unrest and upheaval. The ETs will help with re-programming and the concept of an inclusive galactic order. However, society will have to step up to the plate to assist - one on one - those people who have shattered belief systems The Chinese will have no problem because of the Buddhist and Taoist influences."

Clay and Shawn Pickering
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Postby nomo » Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:48 pm

Yup Phil. You were right.
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Ho hum...the economy is going belly up

Postby slow_dazzle » Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:51 pm

Never mind, here is yet another diversion.

It really is a very, very silly story.

Hugh - I thought more or less the same as you did when I saw the Clay Shaw reference. Someone is taking the piss and I have a suspicion their salary is paid by the gummint.

No doubt some adolescents will be typing like gerbils on speed in some chat room right now.

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Postby nomo » Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:56 pm

An interview with the "trusted sources", Clay and Shawn Pickering.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8LKlGz7YB8

Cheers, Hugh.
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thnx nomo

Postby slow_dazzle » Fri Feb 29, 2008 5:09 pm

The interviewer creeped me out.

The interviewees did mention drug money (I only watched a few minutes of the vid) but they failed to mention the real role of drug money which is to provide liquidity of capital for economic advantage. It's no accident that since the invasion of Afghanistan opium production has shot up and loads of funny money has appeared in the financial markets in the same period. The profits had to go into the mainstream banking system and the housing investment market was the perfect place to wash them clean.

Drug money isn't used for black ops - it's used for economic muscle.
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Aliens, save us! Greer-ism.

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Fri Feb 29, 2008 5:40 pm

nomo wrote:An interview with the "trusted sources", Clay and Shawn Pickering.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8LKlGz7YB8

Cheers, Hugh.


Thanks for finding this KH disinfo trophy, Nomo. Adding it to the pile.

Shawn Pickering is a name associated with 'The Disclosure Project-New York' on this 'X-Conference 2007 feedback page-
http://www.paradigmresearchgroup.org/X-Conference2007/Feedback.htm
On behalf of myself and Disclosure Network New York, I would like to thank you for your hard work in bringing us the X-Conference. It think it was an enormous success. The speakers were great and so were you.……….Again, thanks for your hard work!

Shawn Pickering
New York, NY


Diclosure Project-New York is a typical Greer-oriented disinfo site equating covert government with UFO cover-up.
http://www.dnny.org/index.html

It has this message from Dr. Steven Greer linking 9/11 to secret government and free energy and UFOs.
"If only they let us use that suppressed alien technology!"

Archetypal mixing of intellectual politics and pollution from Greer--

http://www.dnny.org/about_greer_anal_911.html
.....
Let no one interpret this as an indictment of the "Government," the "CIA," the "Pentagon," etc. On the contrary, the point is that the conventional legal government, military and intelligence community are for the most part the first victims of these operations, not the perpetrators.
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Make no mistake about it: we have not needed oil, and especially Mid-east oil, for decades, and we can prove it.
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This is not to excuse in any way the evil, monstrous and inhuman acts of Osama bin Laden or others of his ilk.
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In a decade we could reach energy independence: bin Laden et al may keep their oil, for we will not need it.

For 50 years, America and the world have had their destiny hijacked by rogue, shadowy projects that have abused the national security act to suppress these energy and propulsion systems. Our foreign policy, oil and energy policy and environmental policy have all been driven by what is hidden in clandestine projects. Our leaders, scientists, policy makers and the people have not known that the definitive solution to the world's energy, environmental and poverty problems have been stolen from us. It is time we take them back.
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Postby Hammer of Los » Fri Feb 29, 2008 5:57 pm

It's a joke.

I too immediately thought of Clay Shaw, just like HMW and SD.

This is certainly some sort of wierd disinfo.

If this Salla character's bio is at all reliable, I doubt very much if he is simply a kook or a charlatan.

The real question is who exactly thinks up these scenarios, (actually this one is pretty easy, some (combination of) USG alphabet agencies,) and, more importantly, to what end.

Why do they spread this manure around the internet? This sort of crap does seem to infiltrate a lot of apparently serious "parapolitical" sites.

It sure does make me wonder about the plans of those one world government, one world religion types, and their population control agenda, amongst other things.

Does anyone think they actually have their fake et craft and hologram generators at the ready?

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Postby StarmanSkye » Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:12 pm

I'm skeptical. The most obvious clue there's a big element of contrivance and duplicity here is the deeply-flawed, absurd claim that Hindus, with a long, rich tradition including a pantheon of Gods would be unable to accept and deal with an ET first-contact -- it sure struck me as improbable, with the 'wink' giveaway feel Jeff suggested. And too -- these 'talks' being with the UN and US military ... which are among the most discreditted, undemocratic, non-representative, criminal organizations responsible for perpetrating some of the last half-centuries' most egregious abuses of power, misery and death. IOW: This 'leak' has many elements of a global psyop intended to bamboozle a world audience with a predisposed susceptability to propaganda. As not a few threads on this forum have discussed.

IF this discussion happened at the UN, it ups the stakes of who's involved and why in spreading a portentious predictive-warning with potentially large consequences -- quite apart from questions re: ET contact being true.
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