This Is How I Believe 9/11 Was Carried Out

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This Is How I Believe 9/11 Was Carried Out

Postby 8bitagent » Thu Apr 03, 2008 7:07 pm

After exhaustive research, I present to you folks how I feel 9/11 was carried out. I put a lot of time into this, and this is the culmination of many years condensed. You'll note a lot of "Arab" names that are unfamiliar. I do not place blame for 9/11 on any Arab or Muslim ultimately.
Anyways, for those with a vested interest in understanding 9/11, please join me on this. For those that find this is too much too read, I apologize in advance.

You had the Wahhabist and Egyptian radicals of the late 70's being imported to BCCI network CIA-ISI-Saudi proxy radicals "fighting the good fight in Afghanistan". You had CIA in Khost province and all throughout Afghanistan, working with drug smugglers and warlords. You had Osama bin Laden, son of a wealthy powerful family...a complete brainwashed controlled puppet, brought in under Azzam. Azzam is used to radicalize Osama to a point, the CIA uses Heymayter for drug money fueled blacks ops, and Azzam to establish charity networks. Maktab al-Khadamat (MAK) is created. This turns into al-Kifah and al Qaeda

The CIA was setting up the 9/11 and WTC plots by the late 80's, through Gulbuddin Hekmatyar in Afghanistan. All the WTC patsies came from CIA Hekmatyar factions, with the CIA created al Kifah Refugee center. The CIA used al Kifah to funnel money to Gulbuddin Hekmatyar and MAK turned al Qaeda, with Brooklyn being the hq of al Qaeda/CIA in America.
In 1988 you had the CIA/special forces Ali Mohamed used to recruit under Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, then in 1989 bring those trained Mujahadeen to Brooklyn under the al-Kifah refugee center. Officials in Fort Bragg Maryland and the CIA slip Ali Mohamed "high level" manuals on how to blow up buildings and diagrams of the world trade center. In 1989 he's in NYC training mujahadeen on how to carry out domestic terror. In 1991 he's helping el-Nossair to murder Rabbi Khahane. By late 1992, he along with
FBI informants(Emad Salem, Melvin Lattimore, etc), a Mossad agent and a Saddam agent are all using the CIA controlled Blind Sheikh above a pizza parlor to carry out a terror attack...led by FBI agents Jon Anticev and others. When Ramzi Yousef, cousin to Khalid Mohamed, shows up, its "all on". Melvin Lattimore, an African American who was in prison, is converted to Islam and picked out by FBI in a St Louis mosque to work for them in 1989. Ramzi Yousef had helped to start up al Qaeda sects in the Philippines in 1989, and ended up being recruited by the CIA...a dirty secret which came out in a 1999 book.

Ramzi flees to the Philipines with Khalid Mohamed, who himself has become a proxy of the Kuwaiti government, ISI, etc. CIA assets then feed Ramzi and KSM the "Bojinka" plot, create Abu Sayaff "al Qaeda",
and have Ramzi meet with Terry Nichols. Melvin Lattimore is called up once again from his home in Saint Lewis, this time to drive around Mcveigh, Nichols and rendesvous with Iraqi nationals and Elohim City neo Nazi informants. Melvin Lattimore takes all these guys to the Dreamland motel in Norman Oklahoma for final preperations. MEANWHILE,
Osama bin Laden is feeling dejected from the House of Saud, so he goes to Sudan to go build roads. He takes great pride in this.
ALL the sudden Ali Mohamed is right there, fresh from WTC 1993, to lead
Osama bin Laden to Sudan. He, Azzam and Dr Zawahiri, the Egyptian radical trio, convince Osama to be a fervent anti American madman.
al Kifah head Whalid el-Hage is busted, with strong links to Osama bin Laden, Ali Mohamed, etc
Hambali helps form Konsojaya corporation with Wali Khan Amin Shah.

John Oneil picks up Ramzi in 1995 after his Bojinka doesnt go so well. He and Shah are arrested not in the Philippines where the plot was going on, but Lahore Pakistan. The Pentagon is using elements of the newly formed "al Qaeda" to fight in Azerbaijan, but something interesting is happening. the CIA "al Kifah" networks in Brooklyn and Boston switch from the Afghan plight...to
"recruiting jihadists to fight in Bosnia and the Balkans".
An elderly German couple approaches a young Mohamed Atta in Cairo in 1992. Atta is failing architect school, his dad is a ardent Muslim Brotherhood member and lawyer. Atta is then brought to Germany under the elite US-German CDS International program, affilitated with both Rockefeller and Bayer. By 1995 Mohamed Atta has a lot of money and connections, sending out hawalla money and recruiting the jihadist action in Bosnia. From 1991-1993, the CIA was using al Qaeda to fight in Azerbaijan. By 1995, Khalid Mohamed and other "9/11 conspirators" are fighting UNDER the CIA's KLA in the Balkans

In 1996, the FBI is closing in on Khalid Mohamed...so close. He flees to Qatar, where the Qatari royals safehouse KSM from the FBI. Higher ups in Washington then tell the FBI to "back off". Question is, is why?
Around this time our boy Ali Mohamed is in California, bringing in Zawahiri
on a tour of the "golden state". Ali Mohamed is working security with
Burns and other security companies. al-Hussaini Hussain, fresh from
WTC and OKC, starts work at Boston Logan Airport. In 1996 Sudan gets fed up with Osama over a dispute, offers him to Clinton, and sends him packing to Afghanistan. This is where Clinton's CIA helps the Taliban seal a victory in Afghanistan. FBI informant Aukai Collins is used to control
Hani Hanjour, tho Collins later says he thinks the CIA is setting it all up.

In 1998 Ali Mohamed helps stage the African embassy attacks. Bill Clinton's CIA says "no, dont shoot" when they have Osama on their crosshairs of a UAV predator drone. The FBI meets with Ali Mohamed in a restaurant and have him arrested. Meanwhile the CIA steps up their use of al Qaeda in Bosnia, while NWO puppet Osama declares "jihad" on the West and Jews. John Oneil continues creating the Osama and al Qaeda legend, seemingly getting no cooperation...so were told
1998 IS CRUCIAL. Its when the FBI's Robert Wright and others under Vulgar Betrayal go after Yassin al Qadi(top Saudi elite financing Osama), WAMY(world association of muslim youth), BMI, Saudi elites, bin Ladens, etc. They are told by the Clinton white house, to STOP. Back Off.
MI6 and German BND assets in the al-Qud mosque(Mohamed Zammar)
help bring in Ramzi binalshidh, Mohamed Atta, Marmoun Darkalazanli(who buys ships for Osama, and is tied to al Kifah), put together the Hamburg cell. The CIA's David Edger is sent to monitor them, and Able Danger begins.

In 1999 the Pakistani ISI assists in helping to hijack an Indian flight. Its brought to Kandahar where Osama is waiting. The passengers are released on the condition that Omar Saeed is released from his 1994 jailing. Omar Saeed is a British born, MI6 agent doing overtime with the ISI and al Qaeda. A top ISI official is meanwhile in a trendy Manhattan restaraunt with an FBI informant, bragging how Osama is going to stage a big attack in New York, and bring down the trade towers. Canadian officials "play hero" and nab a Jordanian al Qaeda member plotting to blow up the LAX airport. In 2000 Niaz Khan, a young Pakistani, would go to the FBI and give extrordinary details about the upcoming 9/11 plot and his al Qaeda handlers. Higher ups in Washington told the FBI to go send him packing. Belgium informant Abdelkader Belliraj was placed in al Qaeda in 2000, where through 2001 he met with "#2" Ayman al Zawahri.

Now...here is 9/11.

And let's be clear: It was almost as IF the point of the hijackers was to have them be as obvious, loud and in your face as possible...to create a ledger. Like Oswald. Willing dupes, brainwashed manchurians, who knows.
But it's just too much...almost comical, how over the top they acted. Sometimes even cursing Allah and the Q'uran!

January 2000, the CIA sets up a sting in Kuala Lampar, Malaysia.
Nawaf al-Hamzi and Khalid al-Midhar, who were used by the CIA in Bosnia, are sent along with Indonesian al Qaeda(Jemaah Islamiah) leader and CIA dupe "Hambali", as well as KSM and others. Able Danger detects the Brooklyn al Kifah cell of Atta and company, Bosnian jihadists, etc.
The Kuala Lampar meeting is set up at the condo of Yuzid Sufaat, who created the company Infocus. Now remember that name, Yuzid Sufaat.
The Saudi Intelligence, or GID, send Nawaf al Hamzi and Khalid al Midhar
to Los Angeles where they meet with Omar al-Boyoumi. the next day they go to stay with al-Boyoumi, then later with top FBI informant Abdusattar Sheikh in San Diego california. Mohamed Atta starts hanging around.
Nawaf al Hamzi and Khalid al Midhar were living with Yuzid Sufaat on his couch. But guess who else? A young man named Hussein al-Attas.

Later in 2000, al-Attas leaves Sufaat's condo to go stay with Abdusattar Sheikh in San Diego. Sheikh is a buddy of Sam Koutchesfahani , who the CIA uses to bring in some hijackers thru a Saudi/Iran scam. He also is bed buds with Heavens Gate and Doe, and rented the Heaven's Gate suicide manson. Through the Bush ran Riggs bank, the Saudi royals begin sending money to al Hamzi and al Midhar. Meanwhile, fresh from brainwashing at MI6 mosque in London, he goes to live with Yuzid Sufaat.
Meanwhile its looking like a company named Tatex Trading is hiding the Hamberg cell terrorists. The USS Cole gets hit, but lo and behold Clinton and the FBI tell the FBI to stay out...turns out CIA linked Yemenese officials and Sudan were used to stage that operation.

In 2000, Mohamed Atta and Marwan al-Shehri are sent by Yeslam bin Laden/SICO corporation and various CIA handlers to Huffman Aviation. Coincidentally Rudy Dekker's flight school gets busted from heroin smuggling. A slight slap on the wrist, despite it being florida's largest bust in some time. CIA drug planes are linked, and Atta starts hanging with Austrian and German drug smugglers. CIA linked Iman Anwar Aluqi
then brings Nawaf al Hamzi and Khalid al Midhar to Falls Church VA to stay with WAMY. CIA dupe Mohmar Abdullah is brought in to help scout airports. The Shehhi brothers are living in Vienna Virgina, and JUST like in San Diego...high level dignataries, limos, etc come and go...even some Saudi diplomats

By 2001, some of the hijackers end up at a hotel in Madrid Spain where an anti terror conference is going on attended by John Oneil. Hussein al-Attas leaves San Diego to start college at Norman Oklahoma's Oklahoma University. Moussaoui is SENT from Yuzid Sufaat's couch to get a college dorm room with al-Hattas at the Parkview Apartments across the street. And GUESS who goes to ALSO live with them? Our old friend, Melvin Lattimore, now going by "Mujahadid Menepta". But...who is also going to OKU and going to the SAME Airman Flight school as Moussaouoi? Nick Berg, who most likely was an informant. Moussaoui claims in his trial he has proof the FBI were creating a sting operation, and we now now a White FBI informant bought some of the Flight 93 tickets.

Summer of 2001, Mohammed Atta, al Hamzi, Marwan, etc come to visit and hang with Moussaoui, Nick Berg, Al Attas, Lattimore etc in Norman OK.
Coincidentally the head of the college is CIA head Tenet's BEST buddy who got him the job, former Senator David Boren. And who does HE bring in that summer? CIA David Edger, who was used to help stage the Chilean coup and watch over the Hamburg cell and Atta. I have a friend in his class to this very day, and Edger brags about this stuff.
FBI is yelling that al Qaeda hijackers are training at flight schools, that Saudi Arabia is pulling a VISA scam to let them all in, and they are told to BACK OFF. WF-199i.
By 2002, FBI translator Sibel Edmonds would uncover a rogue network of American neocons, Israel, Turkish lobbyists, and the Pakistani ISI...connecting central to none other than General Mahmoud Ahmed, then head of the ISI. In essense, the selling of nuclear secrets to al Qaeda and rogue states through AQ Khan laboratories. If there is ever a staged nuclear terror attack, it will have been born through this and post Russian and Ukranian FSB tied mafia, and patsied through Warzaristan.

Meanwhile, risk management, post PROMIS software, and artificial intelligence is worming from Israel communications to the WTC towers to the bowels of the US government computer systems. Israeli spies had already been smuggling in ecstacy, now they were hawking Nintendo bootlegs and toy helicopters at kiosks in US malls....spying on military instalations. Hundreds of Israeli spies. Some of these spies were living RIGHT NEXT to some of the Hijackers in Florida.

The Sun Tabloid, whose owner and star photographer are at Huffman Aviation with Atta in 2000, rent out an apartment to the hijackers. 9 out of 19 are now living there. Its the main nexus back to Yemen and Afghanistan. By now the hijackers are living like playboys, snorting coke...having sex with hookers and strippers, drinking it up. Having a great "Taqfir" time on American taxpayer dollars. They meet up with their CIA handlers in Vegas, Shrieveport LA, etc. Around this time a Memphis TN terror cell is using the DMV for a scam to bring in more terrorists,
while having access to the spinkler system of the WTC

By now the Boston police are throughly corrupted. Yassin al Qadi's network in Braintree, Quincy, and Boston Massachusettes is running wild with ties to European banks, Muslim Brotherhood, al Qaeda, etc.

And it all comes down to one word: Ptech. From Quincy, MA. Its tentacles go to Braintree where in a wherehouse, we have Logan Furniture...as well as CAIR International and Bannon Information Technologies. Ptech's CAIR is what the Maktab al-Khadamat (MAK) turned into after it morphed into al-Kifah. Maktab al-Khadamat (MAK) ===> Al Kifah ===> Ptech's CAIR
The hijackers and operatives are given hidden instructions on ebay auctions and encrypted steganography pages in Bannon information webpages, which could still be found with archive.org for a brief time.
Infocom in Dallas TX is connected. All funds from these charity groups(Holy Land, Benevolence, WAMY) are going to Islamic terror, mixing with drug money and arms in a BCCI like network

ALMOST ALL THE MONEY for 9/11 is being ran and laundered through complicit UAE banks, with the Dubai leadership involved. Pakistani ISI General Mahmoud Ahmed wires Atta $100,000 using Omar Saeed. The ISI has Massoud Shah "the Lion" and popular leader of the Northern Alliance murdered by way of "reporters" in Pakistan on 9/9. Osama is placed into a Rawalpindi Hospital in Pakistan, observed by the US military. He had previously been in a Dubai hospital in July...or...so were told.

The Big Wedding. Tyr. Holy Tuesday. The God Of War.
September 11th.

On 9/10 Atta and al-Omari go to have a final meet with their CIA handlers and proxy babysitters in Portland Maine at the Good Comfort Farm. Manager Laura Whale later says the FBI was there instantly on 9/11, and harassed her til she went nuts for trying to speak out on what 'really' happened thered. Saudi official Saleh Ibn Abdul Rahman Hussayen meets with three of the hijackers the night before. Two of the hijackers are sleeping just a few miles from Bush in Sarasotra, where anti missile batteries and snipers guard him on 9/10. Why? Because Sudanese nationals claimed there was a threat on his life.

At 6:05 AM, a white van with "Arab" looking men approach Bush's security detail. Bush is jogging. They ask for an interview. They didnt get it.
Poppy Bush is meeting with the Bin Ladens at the Ritz Carlton, as Washington heads are meeting with General Ahmed. Poppy Bush, AKA George HW Bush AND Iran/BCCI contra alumni Adnan Kashoggi literally dovetail with every major event in the 20th and 21st century.

I believe strongly both Dubya and Osama were groomed from birth by the NWO to serve as the polarizing puppets they are today, they were groomed and Manchurian'd for their star roles in the post 9/11 world.

Atta and al-Omari get into an almost fist fight with someone in Portland Maine's little airport, almost miss their flight. Atta's luggage MYSTERIOUSLY and CONVENIENTLY gets stuck in the conveyor built, containing a Q'uran, flight sim game, pilot uniform, boxcutters, list of 19 hijackers, will, terror training manuals, etc. they BARELY make their Boston Logan thing. I mean again, if it wasnt so serious...it'd be kind of comical.

For weeks, the hijackers had been seen running test flights. Actor James Woods thought they were FBI counter terrorists on his LA flight.
The hijackers WERE SEEN WITH people in tarmac maintenence crew clothes and airport/UA/AA uniforms. They had INSIDE help. Hussein al Attas takes Moussaoui to train in Minnesota. He's trying to meet with Blackwater. Mohamed Atta is meeting with Defense industry heads with his pilotz123@hotmail.com AND Ziad Jarrah is using AB Rockwell Automation Defense emails. Hussein Al Attas gets busted too, and Melvin Lattimore has to bust him out. FBI Agent Harry Samit requests OVER 70 times to detain Moussaoui and look at his laptop. They say no. FINALLY, it appears Nick Bergs emails and passwords were all over that thing.

Hani Hanjour? He sought out, I kid you not, occult military martial arts training in Florida, which he then used to train the others. But the main muscle hijackers ARE ALL lead back to CIA and MI6. Omar Saeed, Luai Sakkra, etc. The 9/11 commission blames an innocent man as the "muscle hijacker".

The Skynet like AI/Promis/Risk Management/Panacea like software kicks in on the bowels of the FAA, NORAD, DOD, NSA, and all the way up from Ptech. Israeli communication companies' AI also kicks in. The security at
ALL the airports used in 9/11 is STOOD DOWN. This is done by ICTS, Burns Security(due to a mind control nazi running rampage at a California headquarters of Burns), Securacom, etc. Guns, knives, bombs, etc are hidden under the seats of some of the 9/11 flights. Some airport crew are helping the hijackers

John Oneil, after years of allegedly going after Osama, is SENT to head WTC security under KROLL at the WTC on 9/11. Where he allegedly dies? Sounds fishy to me.

Some of the hijackers are confused, they think its a routine hijacking. Most are brainwashed, manchurian. They slash up the crew, tie em up. Shoot Daniel Lewin in the head, whose the head of Akamai and an elite commando. They kill the Emmy winning creator of Frasier. Actor Mark Wahlberg is spose to be on Flight 93, and Family Guy creator Seth Mcfarlane is too drunk to make Flight 11. The planes are INTENTIONALLY low occupancy, and AI flight programs BUMP certain people to those fateful flights. Christians on 93, Military defense/CEOS on Flight 77, etc

PTECH and AI kick in, NORAD and FAA go into war games, hijacked phantom blips flood FAA and NORAD screens from the pit of PTECH/Mitre in the FAA. Fighter jets are sent after phantom blips that exist on screens only. NORAD people think 9/11 is all a war game

The war games are being controlled from Offut AFB in Omaha Nebraska, where SRA abuse was used in military psyops in the 80's with kidnapped children. "Angel Is Next" the deep state tells the white house, now the neocons and White House are scared. They think theyve been usurped by pretty much HAL 3000. But Cheney and Wolfowitz, Rummy too. they know whats what.

Flight 11 slams into the north tower in Marsh and Mclenland. Just an accident. Right? Flight 175 slams into the south tower at Fuji bank, big Jerry Bruckheimer explosion. HOLY SHIT everyone says. IS FUJI and Marsh containing beacons to DRAW the planes there? Are they filled with thermate? Then the Pentagon is hit. Were clearly under attack they say. But Flight 11 keeps going, on screen. Its a phantom, phantom flight 11. Flight 93 has a small bomb go off, the hijackers go nuts. Plane goes down. But flight 93 keeps going, all the way to camp david and then to DC. Flight 11 keeps going to DC, but again, on SCREEN ONLY. Its a phantom blip.
Reports of car bombs going off in DC. Hey, is this part of the script?

Mossad white vans of Mossad dressed like Arabs are seen all over NYC and NJ. A second wave of attacks? Mere observers? A converging line of intrigue?

We have to remember, that an NFL football player, Mr. White, was shocked to see the Flight 93 passengers get loaded onto Flight 93 from the Tarmac. Stewardesses said several people asked to leave because of the long wait and got let out. The "Screams" and voices came from an unusual signal not eminating from the plane's normal frequencies. According to Air traffic personnal in a 2002 documentary, the hijackers switched the transponders ON AND OFF. The planes were NEVER lost. Coincidentally they knew to do this EVERY TIME they passed over a military installation.

I think there was an insurance policy to make sure those planes hit the WTC and Pentagon, and while Warrent Buffet was hosting WTC CEOS at Offut AFB on the morning of 9/11...as Bush was touching down, Buffet's lier jet is used to take photos of Flight 93's final descent. I DONT believe a missile shot it down. It just mysteriously, almost Fortean like, gets swallowed into a hole in the ground. (Locals claim they saw the Mothman in the Shanksville area weeks before)

The towers were brought down NOT by fire and impact, but something we have yet to determine. It was a pledge, a turn and a prestiege.
And the magicians who carried out 9/11 knew that if they kept showing us time and time again Flight 175 striking the South Tower, kept repeating "terrorists", we'd just shut up. We know there was sublevel explosions in the PATH, and other areas, all the way to security level floor 22. What of the almost Fortean like stories of William Rodriguez and Floor 34? Empty floor yet the craziest mechanical noises coming through?

The Pentagon, WTC and Flight 93 ARE anomalous, but the missile thing was always a red herring. Did Flight 77 crash into the pentagon, or was there a flyover? I tend to go with flight 77 impacting.

My conclusion: 9/11 was carried out by the same occult deep state thats been puppeteering the world for ages. Islamic terrorists, and Wahhabist extremists from the 11th century Nizari assassins to Hitler's Muslim brotherhood have ALWAYS been tools of the elite. Look at the Nazi/al Qaeda al Taqwa bank in Switzerland.

They used their tentacles in the CIA, MI6, ISI, BND, Mossad, corporations, and criminal networks of the BCCI backbone and Bosnian jihad world to carry it out.

Islamic terrorists=NWO. al Qaeda is WILLING dupes. They are the bullet, but not the gun or the brains. the NWO is the European elites, American military occult complex, and global transnational networks

They CHOSE the date 9/11/2001 many ages ago. It is Tyr, Mars. Day of War. "9" and "11" are the councils and numbers that float through the occult and Fortean mystery ether like wine and roses.

David Rockefeller and the Bin Laden Construction star Yamasaki created the towers, occult symbolism built in just like the 9/11/1941 constructed Pentagon...which itself represents many mysteries. The Twin Towers
are the Tarot Tower, the Solomonic Jachin and Boaz towers, the number 11. Male/female duality with the big antenna being male. WTC1 North was hit first, then south in accordance with mystery ritual.

They chose Flights 11, 77, 93 and 175 because of their Qabbalist and Esoteric numerical symbolism.

Flight 11 slams into the 11 shaped 110 story towers on 9/11, 11 years after Bush Sr's NWO speech, 11 years before 2012. The Freedom obelisk tower RISES on the souls of 3000 in 2012, at 1776 feet.

The phallic planes with their chose numbers are done for sex magick.
Flight 77 into the 77 foot pentagon, Flight 11 slamming into 11 shaped towers. 175, the power of VENUS, slams into WTC 2 over and over and over and over on our tv screens. ALL under the watch of the 2001 Space Oddyssey Black Monolith Millennium Hilton and the Ishtar Stature of Liberty.

9/11 was designed to inflict maximum psychological trauma. And it seemed so familiar because the elite had slowly weaved the towers-plane-wtc as target, "911=emergency" meme into our subconscious for AGES. 9/11/2001 was the beginning of the Egyptian coptic calendar, a day when planets alligned, and was possibly even Christ's birthday according to some.

Washington DC and NYC were chosen based on ley energy lines I believe.
DC was laid out to Sirius star, which Pentagon pays homage too.
Manly P Hall, if he were alive...would not just be calling America the little experiment and proxy of Occult European leaders, BUT calling 9/11 the esoteric megaritual it was. A call to Egyptian gods, opening portals, harnassing 3000 souls. Bringing out WW3 and endless death through war and fear. 9/11 was a "working", and John Oneil was perhaps one of the sacrifices in my view. He was sent to work for Kroll, same company tied to AIG, Convar(cpu recovery of towers) who also tie to Silverstein/WTC7 blackstone, and deep state corruption.

These are all my own words, and aside from the Fortean/esoteric interpretation at the end, this is 100% based off of well researched analysis of every piece of data I could find. I believe theres many unexplained events and things that may never be answered, call it woo, call it the x factor. the 2% that has no explanation.
But all the players are here, and things are more complex than "Cheney did it", "Israel did it".

As Peter Dale Scott said, many parties had many things to gain, but all layers of 9/11 did not neccesarily know the scope of the operation or anyone else's part. Also, some of the hijackers, operatives and agencies themselves may have been getting duped
ALL the post 9/11 players are compromised. Michael Chertoff protects
Dr. Magdy Elamir., a top Osama fundraiser. Rudy Guiliani makes millions with al Qaeda supporting Qatar. Thomas Keane did business deals with bin Ladens brother and Yasin al Qadi under BMI real estate in 1994.
And lets not forget about the ever ubiqituous Khalid Bin Mahfouz.

9/11 was used to transform the world, this era. Forget Y2K, this was the real millennium changer...to transform the new man, the zeitgeist, our understanding and paradigm. It was more than mere oil and war based.

Again, this is just one kid's take on 9/11.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:22 pm

I would love to post this at DU but I don't think they are allowing links to Jeff's site now that they have tombed him! Do you have this somewhere else? Or have any other idea how I could do that?
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Postby 8bitagent » Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:27 pm

seemslikeadream wrote:I would love to post this at DU but I don't think they are allowing links to Jeff's site now that they have tombed him! Do you have this somewhere else? Or have any other idea how I could do that?


I really just typed it out of my head right here, I've been kind of alienated from the "progressive" forums I used to post on.

I'd say just take out the esoteric/occult section at the end(as that's meant as a kind of speculative interpretation for the RI readers) and people can post it wherever. I actually have mainstream and well sourced links for every assertion(aside from a few theories I slipped in there) and fact mentioned, just gotta go in and hyperlink stuff *whew*

Anyways, this post was more of just a brain dump, kind of a unified theory of every 9/11 rock I've looked at in the last few years.
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Postby jingofever » Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:17 am

You forgot to mention that the Pentagon was hit with a kitchen sink, not Flight 77.
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Postby 8bitagent » Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:05 am

jingofever wrote:You forgot to mention that the Pentagon was hit with a kitchen sink, not Flight 77.


I coulda sworn it was a Belgium Waffle.

Of course it doesn't matter what hit the Pentagon.

We already know the CIA created the World Trade Center 1993 plot, established al Qaeda in America through al-Kifah, and implanted the idea of the WTC as a target/planes as weapons into their asset Ramzi Yousef
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/cont ... syousefcia
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Re: This Is How I Believe 9/11 Was Carried Out

Postby timetunneler » Sat Apr 05, 2008 12:01 am

Damn, I think you pretty much summed it all up. The only thing I don't quite get is why you think that Flight 93 just sunk into the ground and why it wasn't shot down. That and some of the esoteric stuff at the end regarding 9/11 "sex magic", I don't necessarily buy into. Oh and one other thing people should remember... the FBI and CIA are not universally bad in themselves... the problem is that they are full of "moles" who are running things the whole doesn't know about. That's why some FBI agents tried to report this shit but got slapped down by "moles" higher up. Plus I think you might add some more attention in this thing to the role of PNACers, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and the Iraq frameup for war that has been a big part of it all since 1991.
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Postby Brentos » Sat Apr 05, 2008 12:51 am

ack, sorry.
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Re: This Is How I Believe 9/11 Was Carried Out

Postby 8bitagent » Sat Apr 05, 2008 1:58 am

timetunneler wrote:Damn, I think you pretty much summed it all up. The only thing I don't quite get is why you think that Flight 93 just sunk into the ground and why it wasn't shot down. That and some of the esoteric stuff at the end regarding 9/11 "sex magic", I don't necessarily buy into. Oh and one other thing people should remember... the FBI and CIA are not universally bad in themselves... the problem is that they are full of "moles" who are running things the whole doesn't know about. That's why some FBI agents tried to report this shit but got slapped down by "moles" higher up. Plus I think you might add some more attention in this thing to the role of PNACers, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and the Iraq frameup for war that has been a big part of it all since 1991.


Thanks. As for Flight 93, many believe it was intended for DC. I will add the caveat that I ultimately cannot say what happened on those flights. I do believe personal items from the flights were found at each crash site. I cant say that was all planted, either. So who knows. There is credible reports that a bomb went off on flight 93:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/f93bomb.html

You're right, the FBI and CIA are not some monolithic beast as people believe. Even FBI, CIA or higher ups that are made to put stops to investigations may not even know to what purpose.

I believe the "invisible hand" or deep state is able to tap into global intelligence networks. Hence why there's CIA connections to everyone from Ramzi Yousef to the "muscle hijacker" trainer of the hijackers.

As for the esoteric stuff, well I should mention that's just my final overall take and does not reflect the detective work I lay out.

Finally, I find way too much of the 9/11 Truth research is almost entirely focused on the PNAC/Team B/etc crowd. I feel that most truth research is based around the Northwoods-Rebuilding America's Defenses, Cheney did 9/11 sort of thing. In my view the neocons are merely puppets who were tapped because the elite knew they'd be all too eager to jump on 9/11.

Cheney of course is lying about his recollection of the morning of 9/11 according to White House staff, and Wolfowitz almost seems to brag in this video he knows 9/11 is about to happen and make the war makers rich:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTL_pt81KHw
Rumsfeld of course does some *interesting* stuff and says some odd stuff in the hours and moments before 9/11.

The neocons tie of course to the deep state, as does this nexus to the Iran Contra networks. But are these the real puppet masters of 9/11? I do not believe they may have been as involved as people believe

I feel 9/11 needed ultimate plausible deniability. That means real al Qaeda who believes they are the ones behind it, and towers that collapse in a way that to most scientists and people seems consistent with the plane/fire/impact
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Postby Stephen Morgan » Sat Apr 05, 2008 5:18 am

Atta and al-Omari get into an almost fist fight with someone in Portland Maine's little airport, almost miss their flight. Atta's luggage MYSTERIOUSLY and CONVENIENTLY gets stuck in the conveyor built, containing a Q'uran, flight sim game, pilot uniform, boxcutters, list of 19 hijackers, will, terror training manuals, etc. they BARELY make their Boston Logan thing. I mean again, if it wasnt so serious...it'd be kind of comical.


There's another source for the boxcutter meme, then, not just the Olson phone call.

I enjoy the will. It said no-one was the touch his genitals without gloves. His genitals have gone the way of the rest of him, vapourised in a fireball! Didn't he foresee this? Didn't he expect his luggage to be incinerated too, will and all? Why the pilots uniform in the luggage?
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Postby 8bitagent » Sat Apr 05, 2008 3:21 pm

Stephen Morgan wrote:
Atta and al-Omari get into an almost fist fight with someone in Portland Maine's little airport, almost miss their flight. Atta's luggage MYSTERIOUSLY and CONVENIENTLY gets stuck in the conveyor built, containing a Q'uran, flight sim game, pilot uniform, boxcutters, list of 19 hijackers, will, terror training manuals, etc. they BARELY make their Boston Logan thing. I mean again, if it wasnt so serious...it'd be kind of comical.


There's another source for the boxcutter meme, then, not just the Olson phone call.

I enjoy the will. It said no-one was the touch his genitals without gloves. His genitals have gone the way of the rest of him, vapourised in a fireball! Didn't he foresee this? Didn't he expect his luggage to be incinerated too, will and all? Why the pilots uniform in the luggage?


http://www.pulitzer.org/year/2002/natio ... 92801.html

Mohamed Atta, one of the key organizers among the 19 hijackers who carried out the Sept. 11 attacks, left behind a five-page handwritten document in Arabic that includes Islamic prayers, instructions for a last night of life and practical reminders to bring "knives, your will, IDs, your passport" and, finally, "to make sure that nobody is following you."

FBI investigators, who found the writings in Atta's luggage, which did not make it onto his flight, are not sure of the author's identity -- whether it was Atta, another hijacker or someone else.


It goes on to say later

"Check all of your items -- your bag, your clothes, knives, your will, your IDs, your passport, all your papers. Check your safety before you leave. . . . Make sure that nobody is following you."


Here's what fascinates me...

Atta, 33, and Abdulaziz Alomari spent the night of Sept. 10 in Room 232 of the South Portland Comfort Inn in Portland, Maine. Early Sept. 11, they boarded a flight from Portland to Boston's Logan Airport, where they connected to American Airlines Flight 11, the plane that was commandeered and flown into the north tower of the World Trade Center.

Atta's luggage did not make it onto Flight 11. The FBI found another copy of essentially the same document in the wreckage of United Flight 93, a government source said. Flight 93 was also hijacked and crashed into a field in Pennsylvania. The multiple copies suggest the document was shared among at least some of the hijackers.

After the attacks, several published reports stated that Atta had left a "suicide note," which is what the FBI initially called it in a document sent to police investigators in Europe. Other reports called it a will written by Atta, an Egyptian who joined radical Islamic circles while studying urban planning in Germany.


Atta and alOmari's presence in Portland Maine RIGHT before 9/11 baffles honest investigators TO THIS DAY.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14686192/

Laura Wale, manager of the Good Comfort Inn, was literally drove insane(I wonder if shes even still alive) by the FBI or agency spooks for what she knew
http://www.mainetoday.com/9-11/2003/030 ... ries.shtml

They claim the same will/hijacker paper was found in the wreckage of Flight 93, and from pictures/evidence Ive read...they say they found a boxcutter in the 93 wreckage. Ive also seen charred ID's from the hijackers from the flight 93 and pentagon 77 wreckage, all from the moussaoui trial. Incidentally, Flight 11 and 93 are the same planes whose phantom hijack blips on FAA and NORAD radar keep continuing on to DC after the crashes, eerily.


Atta is said to have scribbled this on his will:

The author doodled on the paper, drawing a small, arrowhead-like sword. Two circles entwine the shaft, which also has serpentine swirls drawn onto it. The doodle also resembles a key.

The word "ROOM" is written vertically in large double-block letters at the end.


In my studies, this doesn't seem like the work of merely a Wahhabist, or "Taqfir" jihadist...but one of a mystery school adept.

Anyways...

finally

The mystery of why Atta and alomari went to Portland Maine, barely missing their flight...their luggage getting stuck, the car rental "rosetta stone" and the connection to the Bukhari brothers whom the cars may have been linked to

http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/home/F ... 02267.html
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Postby OP ED » Sat Apr 05, 2008 4:24 pm

I'll see your "woo" and raise you a "woo-dunnit"....

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Tool -- Schism

Tool --Parabol/Parabola

all the symbolism you'll ever need.

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Shying away from symbolism

Postby geogeo » Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:23 am

Imagine describing a wedding, or a funeral, and excluding all of the non-materialist, symbolic trappings. The symbolic dimension of any staged event is decidedly the most important part of it -- otherwise, go to the justice of the peace, and toss your grandmother in the ditch. The point is that every part of these 'mundane' rituals has significance, and are part of narratives that involve fitting out the soul for its afterlife journey, or making the union of the male and female principles a sacred one, blessed by a higher force, or whatever.

If 9-11-2001 was not a ritual undertaking of any kind, then we can afford to not worry at all about what we can simply call 'anomalies'--or perceive them as some cheap jokes and forget about it. But given that even the exoteric account of 9-11 is awesomely complex, it seems to me even more important to unravel the underlying symbolisms and figure out which way they point.

Imagine going to a baptism and not understanding the significance of the use of water -- why, you'd say, the baby must be dirty! Or a wedding: She must be wearing white because she got it on sale. Etc.

Certainly, the 9-11 waters have been muddied and people have been talking for circles for years. Good thinking, logical, somewhat agnostic and no doubt mechanistic and materialist thinkers, divided over issues of thermite and planes.

Meanwhile, the symbolism of the event itself was nearly crystal clear to the 'lightworkers' and the Thelemites -- and hell, probably the Mormons and the Scientologists and all the other latter-day Gnostics, who have gotten what this is about since it happened. The number 11 itself is the focus of a mini-belief system (11:11 phenomenon) and many interpreted 9-11 immediately in terms of the 11s, realizing it meant the ushering in of the Age of Aquarius (whose number is 11), Aeon of Horus, Abrahadabra, what have you. They also know that it was 11 years from 2012, and that on 11:11 GMT on Dec. 12, 2012, the 'shift' will occur, as Terence McKenna said.

To me, it is an error to trivialize or apologize for any hint of symbolic interpretation of 9/11. We are talking about a new millennium for the oldest extant calendar in the world, and most of us know about the fascination that Western power elites have had for the godlike power of the Egyptian pharaohs since, well, since Alexander the Great. Picknett and Prince came close, very close, to predicting 9-11 in the Stargate Conspiracy. They just thought it would go down on the Christian millennium.
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Postby Pazdispenser » Sun Apr 06, 2008 6:15 pm

Hey geo -

Your ritual analogy will come in handy; thanks for that.
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Re: Shying away from symbolism

Postby 8bitagent » Sun Apr 06, 2008 6:28 pm

Big thread that completely explains the esoteric occult symbolism and fabric of the September 11th attacks:
http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/v ... a74a7c3bea

geogeo wrote:
To me, it is an error to trivialize or apologize for any hint of symbolic interpretation of 9/11. We are talking about a new millennium for the oldest extant calendar in the world, and most of us know about the fascination that Western power elites have had for the godlike power of the Egyptian pharaohs since, well, since Alexander the Great. Picknett and Prince came close, very close, to predicting 9-11 in the Stargate Conspiracy. They just thought it would go down on the Christian millennium.


Well said...and I know there's many truthers who will roll their eyes and say
"talking about occult esoteric symbolism and 9/11 in the same sentence is as bad as talking about no planes and space beams". And I thoroughly understand, heck a few years ago I would have agreed.

But when watching David Fincher's really well done film "Zodiac" the other night..we had serious by the books reporters and detectives doing the usual taut police procedural millions of Americans have been weened on
through CSI and other shows.

But then they started realizing, wait a second. What's this? His killings fall on astrological procession dates? He uses cryptic esoteric symbolism and hidden word meanings?

Imagine if detectives had said "haha, stop talking about that conspiracy junk and just stick to the physical aspects". How in the world could they EVER get into the minds of the person/s responsible for the Zodiac slayings? Same with Son of Sam, or the Night Stalker, or any number of serial killers into this stuff.

For instance, why did Ziah Jarrah purposefully seek out occult military
fight training? Why did Cairo Egyptian Mohamed Atta doodle this on his will?


The author doodled on the paper, drawing a small, arrowhead-like sword. Two circles entwine the shaft, which also has serpentine swirls drawn onto it. The doodle also resembles a key.

The word "ROOM" is written vertically in large double-block letters at the end.


Why did Yamasaki, the bin Laden Group's star architect, go out of his way to put esoteric symbolism in the twin towers and in between the twin towers?

How come some of the main prime magick qabbalist numbers Crowley is adament about, end up being the same four numbers of the planes used on 9/11?

Why did construction on the 77 foot estoric symbolic Pentagon building begin on 9/11/1941 60 years before to the day of 9/11?

How come Goerge HW Bush made a central theme of "new world order", and talking of "illuminated in a thousand points of light" exactly 11 years to the day before 9/11?

I agree with those who say there may have been an Egyptian God invoking underlying fabric to the destruction of the twin towers.

Understanding why the Jachin and Boaz Twin Towers and Sirius dog star Pentagon were used in the 9/11 megaritual is key; opening up the scary possibility that 9/11 was planned before 1995...wayyyy before 1995.
God knows what kind of spiritual and energy reverberations 9/11 produced.
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thnx 8bit

Postby slow_dazzle » Sun Apr 06, 2008 6:45 pm

haven't had time to read your post in any detail but I will do - have saved it as a PDF.

I probably won't agree with the woo bits. However, I'll read them because it deserves no less.

You have probably read Dr Peter Dale Scott's "The Road to 911". If you haven't read it twice at least. Damned good piece of writing (I might have misspelled "piece" - I always get that "i" before "e" except after "c" thingy mixed up)

Thanks for taking the time and effort to pull this together. There's a lot of work in there.
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