Jersey investigation into child abuse

[AhabsOtherLeg]

Pepsified, that dog, Keela, of the now-famous Eddie and Keela, had a similar reaction in the apartment (and to the boot of the hire-car) of the McCanns not so long ago. The dogs' reaction does indeed conjure up unkown horrors.

I know there's nothing the least bit funny about this case, and this link won't stay the way it is for very long, but I couldn't help boggling my eyes at who appears if you click the Northern Ireland hyperlink towards the end of this Yahoo news story about Lenny Harper and Haut de la Garenne....

[Had to Edit it - link no longer relevant. Suffice to say the hyperlink brought up a picture of a grinning Ian Paisley - who is certainly not a paedophile or a terrorist. He merely had close political and social links with the convicted paedophile, terrorist, and officialy unconfirmed but unofficially verified MI5 agent William McGrath, who ran the Kinocora Boys' Home, where sexual abuse by McGrath and his paramilitary lieutenants was rife, under the aegis of MI5, as a means of compromising prominent Unionist politicians. So no libel there at all. Allegedly].

On a more sober note, there been unspecified "new finds" in the second cellar - more "items of interest" rather than more bones.

[dickdecent]

Ahab right on the money as always...

I posted in the wrong place cos I couldn't find the right thread... it had dropped off the board!!!

Doesn't anyone else feel that this case is potentially bigger than say, the Franklin case, for exposing VERY high connections - Masonic and para-political/world bank.
The almost-too-obvious in retrospect role of The Islands' [all of them] multi-functioning as the elite playground, the tax haven friend of the launderer, the filthy Masonic HQ of depravity and slaughter of innocents.

The direct connections with Islington and Dorset.. via Islington to the Welsh cover-up.. via there to Kincora, and on to Dunblane and the Belgium\Dutroux [failed] cover up... Like a fucking circle of hell for those kids.

For CIA read MI 5/6
For HellFire/Grovers read High ranking Masons
For Bohemian Grove read Channel Islands

I'm very afraid the fix is already in with our Lenny... he knows what he has to do... APPEAR to be open and honest while steering the press away from the cover up. Talk a lot about the past, and perps who are dead, and HIDE the true extent of the cancer. After all it's pretty obvious who's who...

The Bailiff of Jersey - Philip Bailhache - is a senior Freemason.
HM Attorney-General of Jersey - William Bailhache [Bailiff's brother] - is a senior Freemason.
Chief Minister of Jersey - Frank Walker - is a senior Freemason.
[You've prob read unconfirmed reports that PB was actually governor of Haut when it was Jersey Home for Boys in the 70's/80's]

This fuck [who's article someone posted earlier!] is ALSO a prominent Mason and was Assistant Manager to Social Services while the Manager was Mason/Minister Ben Shenton... remember him?
... the guy that sent the e-mail to our Lennie, and got publicly caught/humiliated for trying to 'belittle' the enquiry from the start...

A smokescreen I fear, Shenton is already set up to be one of the fall guys... one of the 'seen to be prosecuted' although it'll probably go his way after a lengthy appeal and holiday... unreliable evidence they'll say.

I think this case is absolutely fascinating... it's so obvious that they simply HAVE to protect the upper echelons of abusers for so many reasons... and on such a small island where THE PEOPLE know the truth, and here we are, knowing all this BEFORE the fact...

Oh Len, if only you would do your real job instead of remind everyone you're retiring before you can finish the case... If only you were threatening those above you instead of saying there were no signs of a cover up [what a fucking statement THAT is!!!]
And why do the press keep calling you an 'outsider' as though you're independent in some way? You've been living and working INSIDE the sysem there for SIX YEARS.

I can't find anything to actually out Len as a spook/MI5 fixer, but if they ever needed one it's now.

I did find this

which contains this quote:

In the Incident Room, one local officer, Rachel Hart told me that many callers were distraught, others angry that complaints at the time had not been heeded.

'Not dealt with'

"They find it difficult to trust us," she said, "but I make it clear to them that this time we are taking any allegations very seriously."

Lenny Harper, who recalls similar inquiries in both the UK and Northern Ireland, says he believes these alleged offences span at least three decades.

The allegations range "from pretty severe physical and mental abuse right through to the most serious sexual crimes that you can imagine", he said.

(my emphasis)

How do you recall the similar inquiries Len?
Which ones were they?.... Wales UK?... Kincora NI?
What were the outcomes?
Exactly what role did you play?

Anyone know if Lenny Harper himself is, or is not a Mason?
Surely a clinching factor in whether or not he IS MR. FIX
His years at the RUC and the Met don't make for very good odds on that question now do they? With the mainstream media making him out to be something between Superman and Jeezus, I think a picture is forming in my mind.

I just wish someone knew a way to blow this thing wide open while there's still time... personally I'd like an old fashioned lynchin' [sorry]




p.s.

I don't know the rep/integrity of this site, so if it's out of order to link there, please forgive me, I just couldn't resist posting one page of the thread from there which has a couple of residents from Jersey's comments;


http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2008/02/ ... on#c190009



peace be upon ya

[Stephen Morgan]

Interesting is the comments section here, on the masons and so forth.

[dickdecent]

Yes, an interesting read which I had already browsed but thanks for that.

Lots more names here while still available... [prob. not for long I'm guessing] ...but look as I may, I can't actually find the goods on Lennie...

Not yet anyhow...

[AhabsOtherLeg]

Doesn't anyone else feel that this case is potentially bigger than say, the Franklin case, for exposing VERY high connections - Masonic and para-political/world bank.
The almost-too-obvious in retrospect role of The Islands' [all of them] multi-functioning as the elite playground, the tax haven friend of the launderer, the filthy Masonic HQ of depravity and slaughter of innocents.

The direct connections with Islington and Dorset.. via Islington to the Welsh cover-up.. via there to Kincora, and on to Dunblane and the Belgium\Dutroux [failed] cover up... Like a fucking circle of hell for those kids.

I definitely agree that this could be a case of extraordinary magnitude, much bigger than it already seems as yet another example of widespread 'historic' sexual abuse in children's homes.

Sadly, I was wrong about Lenny Harper though - there just can't be any direct link to Kincora. He was only in the RUC for eight months, from 1979 to 1980, at least according to his official bio. Kincora broke in 1980, but the inquiry wasn't until '82. I suppose he could've had some role in it, but not much. The question remains, though - which similar cases does he remember? Does he mean he remembers working on them, or just reading about them in the papers like everyone else, and if so, why bother mentioning it?
There haven't been THAT many cases like Haut de la Garenne.

http://www.jersey.police.uk/about/deputy-chief.html

I can't find anything shady in his past at all (apart from being a cop, obviously) and no evidence of any Masonic links, other than what you mentioned with him being in both the RUC and the Met, which certainly makes him more likely to be a Mason than if he'd been, say, a dentist - but there still isn't any real proof. The fact that his wife is a Catholic, which in Northern Ireland would make her unlikely to marry a Mason (if she knew), gave me pause - though a Catholic marrying an RUC man seems pretty unlikely to me as well!

Of much more interest, at least from what I can find, is his immediate superior Graham Power.

After attending the 28th Senior Command Course in 1991
he was appointed Assistant Chief Constable of Lothian and Borders
Police. He served as Deputy Chief Constable of Lothian and Borders
1994-1998, and during this time was responsible for the policing of
a number of major events including the Commonwealth Conference.

He represents the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man on The
Association of Chief Police Officers[i] Terrorism Committee, and is a
candidate assessor for the Home Office Police High Potential and
Strategic Leadership programmes. He was awarded the Queen’s Police
Medal for distinguished service in 1994[/i]


What is of interest here is what is not mentioned - namely, Fettesgate. It seems it's Power who has the requisite background in cover-ups rather than Lenny.

One year after he was appointed Assistant Chief Constable of Lothian and Borders Police, headquartered at Fettes in Edinburgh (right next to Fettes College, where Tony Blair recieved whatever education he supposedly has) there was a break-in at the headquarters itself. The burglars spent three hours there looking for specific documents and spraying Animal Liberation Front solgans on the walls. They got the docs they needed, and then began leaving them as dead-drops for Edinburgh journalists. The journalists are the only people ever to have been arrested in connection with the case, which lead to a rather strange wiretapping scandal, a typically botched inquiry whose results have never been made public (the Nimmo-Smith report), while the internal police inquiry was headed by... Graham Power.

What I thought might interest you is that there are a lot of rumours as to what the documents really contained - most commonly it was said to simply list prominent people (mainly criminal lawyers) who were known to use gay prostitutes, others say there were lists of police officers, their lodges, and their Masonic rank, plus the membership of the Edinburgh Speculative Society (since made available online). Some folk claim it was the equivalent of the P2 declaration and membership roll, except relating to the so-called 'Magic Circle' of which Lord Cullen, Lord Nimmo Smith, George Robertson, etc. were all said to be part. Dunblane again....

The question of what was really in the documents has never been answered, and the inquiry is sealed like Dunblane used to be (and, since much of the released inquiry was redacted, Dunblane effectively still is). Good old Tam Dalyell questioned Fettesgate in the House of Commons.

Details are here:
http://www.unlockdemocracy.org.uk/chart ... ilton.html

There were many rumours about who might have carried out the burglary. The IRA, the Animal Liberation Front, unspecified drug dealers and even MI5 were mentioned. There was also a persistent set of rumours about a gay network of semi-criminal elements who were alleged to have good police and legal contacts. Nobody has yet been charged with the crime, though some journalists who have covered the story in Scotland have come to believe that the identity of the burglar, said to be a police informer, is known to the police, but that the police fear he might embarrass the force in court.

I can no longer find most of the articles relating to the inquiry or the burglary itself online, but I remember it being a huge deal at the time. Even the Scotsman and Sunday Herald seem to have taken down their articles on these subjects. I take it they got sued sucessfully - one of the many dangers of saying anything against police, lawyers, and judges.

The only guy who seems to say much about these things is Martin Frost, but be warned - he's a bit of a nutter. http://www.martinfrost.ws/htmlfiles/magic_circle.html

For CIA read MI 5/6
For HellFire/Grovers read High ranking Masons
For Bohemian Grove read Channel Islands

I thought the Hellfire Club was founded in Ireland? I could be wrong, though.

I'm very afraid the fix is already in with our Lenny... he knows what he has to do... APPEAR to be open and honest while steering the press away from the cover up. Talk a lot about the past, and perps who are dead, and HIDE the true extent of the cancer. After all it's pretty obvious who's who...

I agree, I don't think the truth will ever come out fully. Everything's gone quiet for now. But the truth is ALREADY out there, really. We've all seen it, at least in part.

I should say, I'm not anti-Masonic, and I don't believe the Masonic aspect is significant to the abuse itself - but I think it could be significant in the cover-up in so far as they might back each other up without looking or questioning too deeply, particularly a lower-ranking Mason being asked to "stick up" for one of higher rank (that would go for non-Masonic cops, too). There is plenty of evidence in this panorama documentary that lower level workers at Haut de la Garenne often covered for their superiors, even when they knew that children were being abused, and they weren't even bound by blood oaths.

Jersey - Island Of Secrets:

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0Wyt-1u1aY
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjF7acSc ... re=related
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iySfTgZk ... re=related

[dickdecent]

Ahab, thanks for all that great info mate.

I had just come to the same conclusions about Power, tho' as you say the only evidence is circumstantial, acting head of the ACPO and awarded the QPM in '94 is PRETTY HEAVY circumstantial evidence, considering the 'Royal' interests in Jersey/Masonic affairs.

I knew virtually nothing of the Fettesgate incident so it was great to see it tied in by Power's prescence... a great insight.

Sadly, I was wrong about Lenny Harper though - there just can't be any direct link to Kincora.

It's not sad really tho'! It's at least hope that Len might have some integrity. I can't see it myself, as I mentioned before I feel sure that the fix is VERY well in place... what will be REALLY sad is when you or I or another user DOES find specific Masonic links to Lennie.

Some good research off you suggesting that he maybe was NOT part of Kincora is great news to me. I know it's only maybe at present... but it's better than nothing. There is some question I agree surrounding the fact that prominent Catholics AND Protestants would use the kids with equal contempt, no doubt playing right into the hands of the spooks wishing to compromise both sides, and then Len, the RUC man, leaves the RUC the same year the story breaks, and marries a Catholic girl...?

I definitely agree that this could be a case of extraordinary magnitude, much bigger than it already seems as yet another example of widespread 'historic' sexual abuse in children's homes.

This point is what I'm not seeing many people get at the moment... This case is like a big picture window that looks directly down into the proverbial rabbit hole for me...
A window big enough so that one can see a LONG way in... If you weigh in the islands' history and it's regular visits by royal, banking, Masonic and other Dignitaries, spooks, crooks and Occultists... [their NAMES are avilable as such at the moment] and visualise what Jersey was to them, there is probably no more accurate or chilling insight into elite/occult sexuality and depravity, and the CONNECTION it has with the outside/alphbet agencies who direct and help to perpetrate it.


A. I'm well glad that someone else with a brain is looking into this stuff about the 'investigators'... but with all the potential finds, why isn't this thread on fucking fire???

[AhabsOtherLeg]

Good news today, I think. Not brilliant, but it could be the start of something. A judge has ruled that the "former" government (Blair personally, in fact) was wrong to intervene in (I mean, obstruct) the Serious Fraud Office investigation into the Al Yamanah arms deal, where bribes were apparently paid by BAE Systems to Prince Bandar and others to secure the biggest arms deal (in fact, the biggest deal of any kind) in UK history.

This might not seem relevant at first, but any new investigation of Al Yamanah (Yamamah? Yammanah? Every site and book seems to spell it different) is going to lead almost immediately to Jersey, and to their financial institutions and trusts, and it is going to ask just how much their politicians know and knew. A serious look is at last going to be taken at how they do business on the island. This is my hope, anyway.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7339231.stm

The High Court has ruled that the Serious Fraud Office (SFO) acted unlawfully by dropping a corruption inquiry into a £43bn Saudi arms deal.

In a hard-hitting ruling, two High Court judges described the SFO's decision as an "outrage".

Defence firm BAE was accused of making illegal payments to Saudi officials to secure contracts, but the firm maintains that it acted lawfully.

The SFO said national security would have been undermined by the inquiry.

The judges in London did not rule that the case would be reopened, but have said they would listen to further arguments.

Just re-open it! No more arguments!

There is also still an ongoing SFO inquiry into a BAE arms deal with Quatar. From the CAAT website:

http://www.caat.org.uk/publications/com ... iefing.php

Following the sale of a package of UK arms to Qatar in 1996, BAE paid a £7 million "commission" into three Jersey trust funds under the control of Qatar's Foreign Minister. A criminal investigation began in Jersey in 2000 but ended in 2002 on "public interest" grounds. The Qatari Foreign Minister denied any wrongdoing but agreed to pay Jersey £6m for "perceived damage".

That was nice of him, eh? Giving a kickback for a kickback - even the corrupt can be movingly selfless at times. My faith in humanity has been slightly restored by Quatar's touching gesture.

There is little doubt in my mind that some of the Al Yamanah money has also passed through the Jersey IFG Trust Funds, or other BAE Trusts in Jersey of the same type. The fact that the States of Jersey called off their own investigation because it was not in the "public interest" is pretty suspicious, and kind of amusing. Why did they start it in the first place, then? And when did they realise it was going to seriously hurt them, and decide to call it off? What did they discover that would have been injurious to the "public interest", which in Jersey can be translated as the interests of the tourist and financial trade.

Here are some of the current "managers" and shareholders in the BAE IGF Trusts in Jersey - I didn't spot any familiar names, but it should be remembered that these funds are rarely "managed" by or registered to the people they actually belong to, as the New Statesman pointed out (albeit many years ago) in an article that needs to be read.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/pressRele ... bol=BAES.L


These articles are only about the money - but money's a big part of this, in my opinion, and this is BIG money.

http://www.newstatesman.com/199811130018

Most of these offshore centres are tiny pin-pricks in an atlas, like Jersey or the Bahamas, the British Virgin Islands or Labuan in Malaysia - though Luxembourg, Switzerland and even offshore aspects of London, New York and Dublin ought to be included as well. But these tiny places now host a staggering amount of the world's wealth.

Because of the secrecy that surrounds them we can't know how much. The most recent estimate is around $6 trillion, approximately the annual world trade in goods and services, or about one-third of all global wealth.

A Home Office report on the Channel Islands and Isle of Man, commissioned from a retired Treasury official, Andrew Edwards, is expected next week (the article dates from 1998). Edwards lists a series of abuses, including Jersey's failure to help foreign authorities investigate tax evasion and other frauds, and the "Sark Lark", whereby islanders are paid to be bogus directors of foreign companies.

One inhabitant of Sark was found to be on the board of as many as 2,400 companies, most of which he knew almost nothing about. Another was a nominee director of the Mil-Tec Corporation, registered in the Isle of Man, which was involved in supplying arms to the Rwandan Hutu militias at the time of the 1994 genocide.

Among Edwards' recommendations are that the 100,000 offshore companies registered on the Channel Isles should be forced to file proper accounts and tell island regulators who owns them. But he stops short of requiring that they reveal the identity of directors publicly, fearing that this would turn business away to other jurisdictions.

I believe the law in Jersey (and hopefully on Sark!) has been tightened somewhat since that article was published, but the real money is still murky as hell out there.

So, once again we have this familiar pattern - international arms deals, high finance, low and dirty politics, deep secrecy, half-failing cover-ups, and always, hovering in the background of these somewhat common things, is the suspicion (and, if they're already dead, the admitted reality) of very high-powered and corrupt public leaders engaging in organised paedophilia. Why is it always this way?

Next post will be long, but I hope to make it clearer why I am connecting Al Yamamah and other BAE dealings through Jersey with Haut de la Garenne.

I should maybe have mentioned earlier that dirty money is not the only form of bribery (and blackmail) invovled in Al Yamanah - but you probably knew that already.

Advance warning: Next post is going to be EVEN LONGER!!!

[AhabsOtherLeg]

It's not sad really tho'! It's at least hope that Len might have some integrity. I can't see it myself, as I mentioned before I feel sure that the fix is VERY well in place... what will be REALLY sad is when you or I or another user DOES find specific Masonic links to Lennie.

I kind of trust him now, and that makes me even more suspicious of him (the poor guy just can't win). I think the Panorama docu did it. The fact that he came across so well in it makes me think he MUST be one of the bad guys, or an unwitting tool of them. Paranoia comes with the territory, I suppose. But if he IS one of the good guys, Mason or not (i don't really care so long as he doesn't march under my window when I'm trying to sleep - Orange Order = low-level Masons? I don't know.
I'll just be happy to see justice done, so far as that is possible in the real world.

Some good research off you suggesting that he maybe was NOT part of Kincora is great news to me.

I should've made what reservations I have left a bit clearer. The only place I have ever seen the specific dates he served in Northern Ireland is in his own official bio on the Jersey Police website, so.... who knows? The newspapers and their online equivalents all just seem to say he served there "at the height of the troubles". They all seem to use that exact same phrase, which suggests a press-release to me. As we all know, journalism in this country is dead, and investigative journalism has been dead for decades. Our only good investigators seem to pursue their careers abroad, except Paul Foot and a few others. If Lenny Harper stood up at a press conference and said he served in NI from 79-80, I can see a roomful of journos simply copying it down and then going to the pub.

I've actually been going on various uk police forums (any that don't require registration) and searching for any mention of Lenny or Leonard Harper. I admit I haven't been very thorough, but I have never seen a mention of him that predates this case. That proves nothing, though.

Graham Power, on the other hand, does not seem to be well liked, especially by his former colleagues in Scotland (Some Idle Gossip, though true: he once pursued a claim for racial discrimination after he failed to be promoted while he was Deputy Chief Constable at Lothian and Borders. Racial discriminattion on what grounds?!? Because he was English! )

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_q ... 05854/pg_3
It's the Third Paragraph Down.

Some more idle gossip, of the unverifiable sort, which suggests to me he's not a Mason: he was once taken into custody, while a serving police officer, for driving off from a petrol station without paying. In Scotland at the time if you drove away without paying you'd get a warning at worst, and possibly escorted back to pay what you owed. Power got arrested. Or so the story goes. What kind of Mason would be taken to the station over an incident like that?

Maybe the cops were racists?

This point is what I'm not seeing many people get at the moment... This case is like a big picture window that looks directly down into the proverbial rabbit hole for me...
A window big enough so that one can see a LONG way in... If you weigh in the islands' history and it's regular visits by royal, banking, Masonic and other Dignitaries, spooks, crooks and Occultists... [their NAMES are avilable as such at the moment] and visualise what Jersey was to them, there is probably no more accurate or chilling insight into elite/occult sexuality and depravity, and the CONNECTION it has with the outside/alphbet agencies who direct and help to perpetrate it.

This thread really should be.... alive. Here we have seen Paisnel in his frankly "reminiscent" death-mask - a convicted serial sex criminal with a Satanic altar in a secret room of his house. He identified himself with Gilles De Rais, openly stated he belonged to a secret religious society, and was on his way to a sex orgy at the time of his arrest. He regularly visitted a children's home where a series of underground torture cellars have recently been discovered - where widespread abuse involving community high-ups has been not just alleged but proven.... and all this on a tiny island rife with back-door arms deals, shady finance, massive political corruption extending far beyond it's own confines..... I've run out of breath.

This wasn't the long post I mentioned above, I might leave that till tommorrow. But where is everyone? This is a modern McMartin with adult witnesses/victims, no shady social workers/psychologists (except the accused) to discredit the case, real and verifiable tunnels, chambers, etc. and real and verifiable links to government, at least to one fat dead guy from the Jersey government (so far)....

[blanc]

We seem to think along the same lines AOLeg, that high level arms dealing and high level paedo abuse are connected I mean. I posted a thread about al yam decision yesterday, then listened to the bbc news on the radio and noticed that the edge is being chipped off the implications of the high court decision with raking out an expert who said in his opinion it would be unlikely that the sfo would re-open the investigation. as someone who is aware of a large number of abuse cases where investigations, if opened at all, have been prematurely closed, I had experienced a brief lift of spirits at the idea that interference with the course of justice by closing investigations rapido would be henceforth considered illegal.

[AhabsOtherLeg]

We seem to think along the same lines AOLeg, that high level arms dealing and high level paedo abuse are connected I mean. I posted a thread about al yam decision yesterday, then listened to the bbc news on the radio and noticed that the edge is being chipped off the implications of the high court decision with raking out an expert who said in his opinion it would be unlikely that the sfo would re-open the investigation.

This expert wasn't Jonathon Aitken, was it? As a former Minister in charge of Defence Procurement he has often been asked recently to comment on the previous stop-lossed Al Yam inquiry. He always said nothing would come of it and it was just a big waste of time and taxpayers' money - and lo and behold, he was right!

At the time he was a paid consultant of BAE Systems. But when introduced on the BBC he was, and is, always descibed as a "Former Conservative Minister".

I just saw your thread at the top of the page, btw. Thank God someone else noticed the one happy story today.

[dickdecent]

As you rightly say Blanc, a lot of us already know that high level arms dealing and high level paedo abuse are connected, and in fact usually, are gonna go hand in hand...
Always compromise and place in your pocket the crook/spook you are 'entertaining/doing the deal with' as you go... just for insurance

The point about this case is that it gives such a unique insight, or window on their activities. The States is such a small community after all.

I love the "back history" here in this link to another BAE fraud,
[DIFFERENT] to the famous Quatari one expounded above by Ahab]

Backstory
BAE Systems, formerly British Aerospace, is one of the world's biggest arms companies, with a turnover of £15bn, but has repeatedly been the subject of corruption allegations. A secret £7m payment from BAE to the foreign minister of Qatar was discovered in a Jersey account, after a 1996 arms sale to the state. Investigations were dropped after the minister paid £6m to the Jersey authorities. In 2003 a whistleblower alleged that a £60m slush fund was being used by BAE to provide lavish holidays, luxury cars and other benefits to the head of procurement for the Saudi air force. Last year, it was alleged in Chile that BAE had paid more than £1m to intermediaries linked to ex-president Pinochet in return for arms deals.

(My emphasis)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2006 ... s.politics


This was the original 'Balkans' story;
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2005 ... n.politics


It's pretty clear, even just from the above, that BAE's obvious links with MI6 have facilitated and precipitated one fucking awful hellish vein of shit for those poor kids, and ultimately for all of us.... but that's only ONE Vein... I honestly still don't think we've scratched the surface.

The more I think about the Islands in this new light, and how far the history of control/deceit goes back, the sicker and angrier I become. As if it wasn't enough these days just being English!
In a case of this magnitude tho', (la Garenne) I would actually have about as much faith in the SFO, were they to be involved, as I have in our Lennie.... Precious little... FAR too much at stake.

I am going to be watching the [sudden] new developments in the Saudi case very closely... and HOPING that the 'co-incidental re-emergence' of the story is not some kind of HMW smokescreen... concentrating on money instead of destroyed children. [Don't forget the true link between the two will ALWAYS be FLATLY DENIED, ACTIVELY COVERED UP and treated as full-blown WOO-WOO by the MSM, due to their direct (ceo/corporate level) INVOLVEMENT]
We know it leads right to the doors of 'Haut', but the public will never be told that, NO MATTER HOW OBVIOUS IT GETS as long as Murdoch/Fox etc. are pulling the strings... and enjoying the hosted parties]

Holding Blair and the Labour wimps up for a spanking as 'just out to make a not quite that honest buck or billion for a British Company', (and themselves) is painting them in far too chummy a fRAudster's clothes and colours for me. They are child rapists and murderers.

Research-wise I am obsessed with Lennie at the moment tho'. He is such a key player at this very vulnerable time for the PTB
I know he's a plant/spook/fixer... so do you... but where are the clues? There must be something somewhere... his image and his press calls and especially his MSM persona... -they're just so fucking clean... that's why I started the other thread... more people on this board should be involved with this specifically I think... we need to find this out a.s.a.p.


Great stuff again A... keep it up!

[dickdecent]

Some more,

The Serious Fraud Office has begun a new investigation into British links with one of the biggest corruption inquiries in Africa. UK firms won huge contracts from the Kenyan governments of presidents Daniel arap Moi and Mwai Kibaki, but anti-corruption investigators have discovered that many were fictitious and amounted to state-sponsored looting.

The SFO inquiry is concentrating on the movement of millions of pounds into accounts in the tax havens of Guernsey and Jersey controlled by Andrew MacGill, a 64-year-old arms dealer from Fife.

The inquiry into the Anglo Leasing scandal was welcomed last week by the Kenyan high commissioner, Joseph Muchemi.

(My emphasis)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2007 ... ness.kenya

[dickdecent]

How 'bout THIS then... From February's Telegraph...

Biggest British Fraud

Posted by Carlos Cortiglia at 09:33 on 20 Feb 2008

The House of Commons witnessed yesterday the biggest financial fraud in British history when it was discovered that most of the assets of the bankrupt Northern Rock had already been taken by a company called Granite based in Jersey.
The Chancellor of the Exchequer was repeatedly asked to specify which assets the Bank of England was buying and no answer was forthcoming. Things do not stop there. Even after nationalisation, Granite is legally entitled to milk money from the Bank of England without any accountability.
The monies always signed up for Northern Rock are three times the size of the entire military budget, monies paid for a company whose remaining portfolio of loans and mortgages are merely cases of repossessions.

http://my.telegraph.co.uk/carlos_cortig ... _fraud.htm

[AhabsOtherLeg]

Jaysus, Granite! I forgot about them, and how is that possible?

Here is a sample of their work.

EXPERT small-scale-but-widespread money laundering for you!

Northern Rock stonewalls Down's charity

05 December 2007

Beleaguered bank Northern Rock is being investigated by the Charity Commission, after being accused of exploiting a Down's syndrome charity to make money for itself.
A Jersey-based offshore trust called Granite was supposed to have been set up by the bank to generate money, some of which would be donated to a small charity for people with Down's syndrome. Yet when approached by the Guardian, Newcastle-based charity Down's syndrome North East (DSNE) announced that it had never received a penny from the trust and nor had it been informed it was a beneficiary. Asked by the newspaper for an explanation, Northern Rock apologised and said it was merely an "oversight".

The bank said the charity might receive a donation in the future if its trust was ever wound up. Granite was set up in December 2000 and raised £71 billion of funds for the bank on the pretext of being for charitable purposes.

The Charity Commission said yesterday it would "get to the bottom" of the matter, while Jim Cousins, Labour MP for Newcastle upon Tyne Central, said: "It is completely unforgivable that when the charity was nominated as a potential beneficiary, somebody didn't go to them explaining the whole situation, and reassuring them that the charity was not at risk in some way."

DSNE operates from a semi-detached house in near Gosforth where Northern Rock is developing its new £35 million headquarters and in the last financial year it had an income of just £85,997."

The article doesn't really explain what was going on.

The Downs Syndrome charity was not just recieving no money from Granite - it legally WAS a part of Granite, without it's own knowledge or consent.

And if the scam hadn't been rumbled it would've been liable for all Granites' debts, but none of it's profits.

Granite, however, did nothing illegal because it doesn't actually exist. Perfect.

Did that article really say 71 billion?!

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I am going to have to come back to that last article guys - I felt as though my eyeballs were going to pop out!

Great research, remember to keep your nose pegs handy, cos I think the stink is going to REALLY pong around this soon....