by sunny » Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:34 pm
Is this "Markus" Rosenbaum?<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0507/27/ltm.06.html">transcripts.cnn.com/TRANS...tm.06.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br> <br><br> <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Qoute</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>________________________________________<br><br>. O'BRIEN: Joining me now from Los Angeles, Cyrus Kar and his attorney, Mark Rosenbaum, who is also legal director for the ACLU of southern California.<br><br>Cyrus, you saw the military statement. That's all they're saying about this. How do you respond to that? <br><br>They have a point. It is a war zone. There are insurgents that are blowing people up. <br><br>CYRUS KAR, FILMMAKER JAILED IN IRAQ: Yes, well, if being deprived of your civil rights and the rights that are afforded every citizen under the U.S. Constitution is appropriate, then they're absolutely right, it was handled appropriately. And some people may at this time in our history believe that it is appropriate. They believed the Joe McCarthy hearings were appropriate. <br><br>M. O'BRIEN: Well, wait a minute, though. We're talking about a person in a war zone here. You clearly knew you were getting into a risky place to be. <br><br>KAR: Well, technically it wasn't a war zone. The war had been declared over. Mission had been declared accomplished. I knew I was going into a volatile area. But, you know, there are hundreds of foreign filmmakers in Iraq. <br><br>In fact, the hotel that we stayed in, we were basically -- in the mornings, as we went to work, our tripods were banging against each other as we were getting out the door. So it's not like there are no foreign filmmakers in Iraq. <br><br>M. O'BRIEN: Did -- but as...<br><br>KAR: We had all the appropriate documents. We had proper visas. We had permission to film. Yet -- we had every right to be there. <br><br>Plus, we had permission from the CPA. They told us that Iraq is a free country, you're free to come and go as you please. <br><br>M. O'BRIEN: And -- but when you were stopped, you were told something different. <br><br>KAR: Well, we weren't told that we weren't allowed to be there. We were just -- we were told that we were enemy combatants and that I was the next John Walker Lindh, and I'm in big, big trouble. <br><br>M. O'BRIEN: Mr. Rosenbaum, let's talk about what the lawsuit might entail here. On what grounds would you be suing? <br><br>MARK ROSENBAUM, JAILED FILMMAKER'S ATTORNEY: Well, the issue first was to get Cyrus released, because he was in indefinite detention. But the problem was that no one -- no one says you can't investigate when you find these devices in a cab. <br><br>The problem was that Cyrus was denied access to attorneys. He was denied access to the United States embassy. He was held indefinitely. <br><br>He had his head slammed against a concrete slab. He was kept in solitary confinement for 23 hours a day for 55 days. Yet he fully cooperated with any investigation. <br><br>He said, "Look, I'm a veteran of the Navy. I served for three years. Go to my place. Check me out. I'm willing to take a lie detector test."<br><br>All of that took place. All that was done within seven or eight days, yet he remained for 45 days -- 55 days, being held virtually incommunicado.<br><br>And that's really the problem. We don't hold people without giving them access to their most basic rights, even in a war zone, even in a volatile area like that. <br><br>The investigation was completed early on, yet he was maintaining if it hadn't been for front-page stories in "The New York Times" and "Los Angeles Times," our filing a lawsuit, and the federal judge saying to the United States government, come forward, he'd still there be. M. O'BRIEN: All right.<br><br>_______________________________________________<br><br>Just wondering. Anybody have a fix on that? <p></p><i></i>