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Postby Lurquacious » Thu Jun 26, 2008 4:21 pm

Interesting, timetunneler. And I see from the French Wikpedia page that it's actually a feminine noun; perhaps I should have referred to Pierre as "she," not "he."
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Postby Lurquacious » Thu Jun 26, 2008 4:28 pm

Weird! I responded to a post by timetunneler giving a definition of pierre l'achoppement from the French Wikipedia, but by the time I'd submitted my response, timetunneler's post had entirely disappeared.
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Postby Jeff » Thu Jun 26, 2008 4:35 pm

Lurquacious wrote:Weird! I responded to a post by timetunneler giving a definition of pierre l'achoppement from the French Wikipedia, but by the time I'd submitted my response, timetunneler's post had entirely disappeared.


FWIW I saw that post, and I certainly didn't delete it.

There has been one other recent incident of a post inexplicably vanishing. It may mean the board is getting glitchy. If it happens again to anyone, please bring it to the attention of myself or a mod.
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Postby sunny » Thu Jun 26, 2008 4:45 pm

Jeff wrote:FWIW I saw that post, and I certainly didn't delete it.

There has been one other recent incident of a post inexplicably vanishing. It may mean the board is getting glitchy. If it happens again to anyone, please bring it to the attention of myself or a mod.


So did I, and neither did I.

pepsified thinker is the member who had a post to disappear and has posed a question about it in this thread:

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I would recommend anyone who has noticed disappearing comments, their own or others, to post there. I don't know if this will actually aid in figuring out what is going on, but it might. My guess is the board is going through one of it's periodic "buggy" periods.
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Postby lightningBugout » Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:19 pm

In my experience, engaging with certain people about CSA and "evidence" is among the most infuriating mind-games on the internet.

I have a visceral response to what logically does not add up to real skepticism. Then my anger shows through. Next I get accused of being unreasonable and offensive for suggesting that I have concluded that the person in question is denying or defending perps. And the whole question of why the person continues to ignore the evidence presented to them is forgotten in favor of a broader conversation about two opposing sides.

This happens again and again and again. It follows the same pattern. Pierre may well return explaining that his use of the phrase "pedosexual" is a cultural difference or explain it otherwise, and continue to suggest that my snarky comment about him enjoying watching such a film is wildly offensive. Maybe it is.

But so often that is what these exchanges end on - getting to the point of making such a suggestion and that being used as "proof" that you are simply hysterical.

C'est la vie.
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Postby Jeff » Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:30 pm

Lurquacious wrote:Pedosexual is an interesting word – and not a common one.


The first hit I find is the Urban Dictionary, which defines it as "A non-existent word invented by pedophile activists as part of their ongoing effort to legitimize and legalize the sexual exploitation of children."

Also:

Thread (Discussion): What is a Pedosexual ?

Why do I use pedosexual? Because pedophile is supposed to mean 'child lover', one sexually attracted to children. However, the media and others have over time perverted the true definition to mean child molesters. Pedophiles are not child molesters therefore it became necessary. Others use MAA (minor attracted adult).

H. Pierce (proud pedosexual)


http://www.sexcriminals.com/forums/105/ ... 13757.html
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Postby timetunneler » Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:36 pm

Lurquacious wrote:Weird! I responded to a post by timetunneler giving a definition of pierre l'achoppement from the French Wikipedia, but by the time I'd submitted my response, timetunneler's post had entirely disappeared.


Nothing mysterious. I deleted it myself... I've been scolded before for implying someone was an "agent" so I thought twice about go down that route. That's all. But don't let me stop the discussion. :D

This was the translation:
The stumbling block is, literally, a stone on which achoppe, ie on which stumbles, an obstacle which is a faux pas. The expression is in the figurative sense to designate a difficulty.


Like I said... I don't know the guy... didn't want to accuse him of something.... although the meaning of his name is curious
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Postby Jeff » Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:40 pm

timetunneler wrote:Nothing mysterious. I deleted it myself...


I was hoping that was the answer! Thanks for letting us know.
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Postby nathan28 » Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:49 pm

Things that smell rotten:

1. Apparently Mineola is in trouble for its lax enforcement of sex offender laws--see hava1's post on page one.

2. No reporter has even got an anonymous quote from another person in the swing club of "50-100"... although "Who wants to spend the next three weeks in Mineola" hardly sounds like something I'd volunteer for, especially if i had seniority.

3. The kids' foster day is up for abuse charges and they can conveniently point the finger at someone else

I'm not saying this didn't happen. I'm saying I don't know what happened. And it's just a little weird and very goddamn disturbing
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Postby chiggerbit » Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:14 pm

great summary lurq. the point about the videocassettes is very interesting. rather than being unsophisticated, they may have been overly so - ie keeping the films on videocassettes and never digitizing them allowed them, apparently, to keep the images from leaking out of their control and to destroy them easily.


This brings up the question of whether the perpetrators were paid in cash, avoiding a paper OR internet trail, both "weakenesses" of internet or mail porn.

I wonder if the kids were asked what the crib, found in that trash pile, was used for.
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Postby nathan28 » Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:23 pm

chiggerbit wrote:
great summary lurq. the point about the videocassettes is very interesting. rather than being unsophisticated, they may have been overly so - ie keeping the films on videocassettes and never digitizing them allowed them, apparently, to keep the images from leaking out of their control and to destroy them easily.


This brings up the question of whether the perpetrators were paid in cash, avoiding a paper OR internet trail, both "weakenesses" of internet or mail porn.

I wonder if the kids were asked what the crib, found in that trash pile, was used for.


Can you put up a link to the crib/trash pile story? I'd say that burning videotape or film is pretty damn suspect
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Postby chiggerbit » Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:34 pm

I think it was in one of the links, maybe the one that had a double article.
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Postby chiggerbit » Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:37 pm

From annie's link:

http://www.tylerpaper.com/article/20080 ... /805070302

TEXAS RANGER INVESTIGATES

Texas Ranger Sgt. Phillip Kemp began investigating the “Mineola Swingers’ Club” in November 2005 after he was contacted about the sexual abuse allegations by Assistant Smith County District Attorney Tiffany Wickel.


He said the oldest victim described the inside of the club in Mineola, down to the “sex room,” where they performed, which had flowers and leaves painted on the walls. She also described a room with water in it and Kemp said he found a discarded sign outside of the building that stated, “No sex in the hot tubs please.” He also found a baby crib, children’s clothing and a book in the trash pile outside of the building, located off U.S. Highway 80.
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Postby Pierre d'Achoppement » Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:22 am

Hey it's real nice to see that someone can first tell me in so many words to fuck off, then suggest I would enjoy watching child porn, and finish it off by implying that my use of the word pedosexual marks me out as some sort of creep, maybe one Pierce P. "proud boylover" (after all: only 3500 google searches, mmm). Good lord, I might even be a "she".

:roll:

Anyway, your ad hominems don't impress me at all, but they are (very) offensive.
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Postby lightningBugout » Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:37 am

1. It wasn't an ad-hom
2. Don't blame me for the pedosexual comment. Another poster first pointed that out. Not I.
3. I think it'd be tough to get away with posting about a subject like this on the Internet, offering "common-sense," without at least referring to the facts and evidence to debunk them and *not* have someone say something you found offensive. We're talking about children getting raped.

So it is, Pierre.
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