Fuck! (Illuminati)

[lightningBugout]

I think I'm starting to believe the Illuminati is real and not just a paranoid anti-semitic screed. How did this happen?

[OP ED]

We let it happen.

[lightningBugout]

Well at least it affirms all that time in the junior high school library puzzling over the "subliminal messages" in dollar bills as well as the whole "Orobl Jew" thing on a box of Marlboro reds.

On that note, does anyone know where a media-criminal might find a streaming copy of "Bloodline" on the web?

[8bitagent]

I think I'm starting to believe the Illuminati is real and not just a paranoid anti-semitic screed. How did this happen?

How is believing that a group of devil worshipping elites who influence or flat out control many aspects of financial, political, war and globalization
worldwide "anti Semitic"?

Not that I believe the "Illuminati" is anything more than a cartoonish Dan Brown/Anton Wilson pop culture meme based on an obscure late 18th century Cosmopolitain group of dandies...



I prefer to use OP ED's term of "The Black Brotherhood", the true story of the
esoteric elite behind the seat of power

[8bitagent]

Illuminati NWO card game from 1995:)



It's funny, because the real "illuminati" was most likely behind 9/11 and the other major events were all familiar with. D'oh!

[lightningBugout]

Thanks and love for easing me in, but you know - it goes against some fundamental precepts I'd entertained about things. No worries - I can handle it. Mostly I'm just upset because I've further concluded that Svali is the real deal. And, well, the implications are far-reaching....

[8bitagent]

Thanks and love for easing me in, but you know - it goes against some fundamental precepts I'd entertained about things. No worries - I can handle it. Mostly I'm just upset because I've further concluded that Svali is the real deal. And, well, the implications are far-reaching....

I wont say Im skeptical of such claims...I just find it curious that so much of the "Illuminati" talk is of the "Jesuits/Vatican" Dan Brown novel kind.
I heard a year ago on some Catholic talk radio a Bishop saying how wonderful it was to be in the "crypt" underneath the Vatican, to do rituals and be with the remains of past saints...so I have no doubt some weird spooky shit has gone on down there.

I do believe generational ritualistic sacrificial cults are very real, as is mind control programming.

I do believe that there is a very real network of occult elite groups behind the seat of power, what one may call "Illuminati" but in reality is much more baffling and complex than such memes.

My view is that as much as people want to talk about our global consciousness, our self, the random synchronicity of the world, how the mind looks for patterns, etc...I do not find it unreasonable to think that
there is a dark spiritual hierarchy puppeteering the events of mankind through the millennia, and working through what one would call the "illuminati". Such talk may brand me as some "Christian", which I am most certainly not.

At the end of the day...be it staged terrorism, globalization, institutionalized racism, war, slavery, CIA mind control or Fortean assaults...its all the same theme:
Human beings are mere cattle and its a wonder if we'll ever truly be free.

[lightningBugout]

Well, I'm rather starting to agree but the many problems are obvious. Like...

1. Most "Satanists" are mall-kids looking for hijinx and wiccan rebellion. All the more power to them and apologies for the creepy Ted Gundersons of the world. But just cuz you've got a black candle and are smart enough to realize your frickin' pastor is an asshole doesn't exactly bring you into shit.

2. There is NO question in my mind that lots of Illuminati talkers are of the Dan Brown / Protocols of the Elders of Zion mentality (IOW horror movie aesthetics)


But, but, but, the TBMC stuff is real, simply. And thus we don't really have the choice to discard it. Brice Taylor might be confused, but Kathleen Sullivan ain't. Y'; know?

Best, LBO

[8bitagent]

Well, I'm rather starting to agree but the many problems are obvious. Like...

1. Most "Satanists" are mall-kids looking for hijinx and wiccan rebellion. All the more power to them and apologies for the creepy Ted Gundersons of the world. But just cuz you've got a black candle and are smart enough to realize your frickin' pastor is an asshole doesn't exactly bring you into shit.

2. There is NO question in my mind that lots of Illuminati talkers are of the Dan Brown / Protocols of the Elders of Zion mentality (IOW horror movie aesthetics)


But, but, but, the TBMC stuff is real, simply. And thus we don't really have the choice to discard it. Brice Taylor might be confused, but Kathleen Sullivan ain't. Y'; know?

Best, LBO

There's a curious case from 1997, involving the school shooting event that kicked off the seemingly unending spate of school shootings that went til the Columbine event and then subsided for a bit.

It's the Pearl Mississippi shooting. Now, it's already gone down in the annals of American history as another "troubled disaffected teen gone wrong case". But what sets it apart from the others is the "Fortean"
aspect to it. Investigators said that the school shooter was part of an occult group that would "summon". These were not your average
"Satanic mall kids" that we saw paraded on Sally Jesse Raphael and Montel Williams in the 1980's and 1990's. According to associates of the school shooter, it appears it was more than just a kid's anger at romantic rejection and school troubles that really set the whole thing off.

Point being, as GeoGeo has hinted at, it's quite possible that over the millennia...from John Dee and Alice Bailey to advisors to world leaders,
to even "The Nine"...there's a non human agenda afoot thats working through the Edward Cayce's and Blavatskys of our time. In other words, there *is* something atop that "Illuminati pyramid", and its quite nasty.

The more one thinks about how bizarre this world is...credible reports of flying men in Serbia, pointed hatted gnomes running around Argentina, England awash in UFO's...

Well suddenly the stories of Cathy Obrien, Kathleen Sullivan, Arizona Wilder, Brice Taylor, etc dont seem so far fetched afterall.

[massen]

Point being, as GeoGeo has hinted at, it's quite possible that over the millennia...from John Dee and Alice Bailey to advisors to world leaders, to even "The Nine"...there's a non human agenda afoot thats working through the Edward Cayce's and Blavatskys of our time. In other words, there *is* something atop that "Illuminati pyramid", and its quite nasty.

I sometimes wonder if something in particular started with Dee. And also for there being a direct lineage of 'initiates' in his tradition who still advise world leaders. He was definitely messing around with some stuff and it's possible that something got out of hand and has become the basis for this dark religion. Not that he necessarily contacted something, one of the ideas in magic is that you can create a thoughtform and give it a kind of existence.

[Searcher08]

I had a friend who recalled this unusual experience. He was dating a lady who was a past life regression therapist. One day she took him back to a life that seemed to be that of a hermit in the desert in Turkey, shortly after the time of Christ. In the regression, my friend "associated" into the body of his old self - so he could see and hear what his old self was seeing and feeling. Now the *hermit* experienced seeing / hearing my friends girlfriend (the regression therapist) - as a visible ball of white light that transformed into... an angel. The therapy was done with the hermit, not the present day guy.
The hermit ended up leaving his retreat and went back into the world.

It made me think that our notions of linear sequential time may be very very inaccurate - there may be loops, feedback, feedforward - and some of the things we regard as most "sacred" - might simply be interactions with... ourselves!

[American Dream]

LightningBugout wrote

Mostly I'm just upset because I've further concluded that Svali is the real deal.

Svali may well be a real survivor of ritual abuse, however that by no means signifies that everything that came out of her mouth is therefore "true" or "false". Not only did she absorb a wheelbarrow full of fundamentalist Christian memes, I believe she also has admitted that the Cult was accessing her even after she "recovered", and that cult-loyal alters were co-operating with their directions.

[crikkett]

It made me think that our notions of linear sequential time may be very very inaccurate - there may be loops, feedback, feedforward - and some of the things we regard as most "sacred" - might simply be interactions with... ourselves!

Great story! I was joking (over wine and bbq) last night that I think the ghost in my house is myself.

[marmot]

I've further concluded that Svali is the real deal.

That's been my conclusion too...

there *is* something atop that "Illuminati pyramid", and its quite nasty. .

Might it not be the "god of this world," the ancient dragon, the adversary, the devil, the fallen angel Lucifer?

Reportedly, "high-level illuminists" are Luciferians.

[posting tulpa]

Why Marmot, how WWJD of you.

Not that he necessarily contacted something, one of the ideas in magic is that you can create a thoughtform and give it a kind of existence.

A tulpa perhaps? Sorry couldn't resist.

There is some kind of plan in play though. Long term or short, its hard to tell.



Side note: Is it true that the word FUCK came from the term: Fornication Under the Consent of the King? I have been told this is derrived from days of European Serfdom where you were only permitted to have sex under the express consent of the king. Anyone else ever heard that?