Ken Lay Dead? Sudden Massive Something

[Gouda]

I guess he is off to meet <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>his</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> maker...<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Ken_Lay_Enron_icon_dead_0705.html">www.rawstory.com/news/200..._0705.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Edited to experiment with subject heading change as news trickles in - didn't know we could do that...and maybe not a great idea</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=gouda@rigorousintuition>Gouda</A> at: 7/6/06 8:31 am<br></i>

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

No fear of him singing now. And the stink of Enron (a division of the oil and weapons cabal in the White House) will be be heaped on him alone for burial like so much hazardous material, that is, hazardous to the White House.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060705/ap_on_bi_ge/obit_lay">news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060...e/obit_lay</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>A secretary at his church and another secretary for his lead criminal lawyer, Michael Ramsey, both confirmed the death. Lay, who lived in Houston, frequently vacationed in Colorado.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Lay, who faced life in prison, was scheduled to be sentenced Oct. 23.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i></i>

[dude h homeslice ix]

no justice... <p></p><i></i>

[Gouda]

Memory lane: <br><br>Short clip of Lay's post-conviction statement, found near bottom-right of <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://money.cnn.com/2006/07/05/news/newsmakers/lay_death/index.htm?cnn=yes">this article:</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>****<br><br>"I firmly believe I am innocent of the charges," he said outside the courthouse. And then he repeated it again. I firmly believe I am innocent. I'm sure he truly does as a devout and adept disciple of the corporate culture. <br><br>He then adds this: <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>"We believe that God is, in fact, in control - and indeed HE does work all things for good for those who love the Lord. And we love our Lord, and ultimately all of these things will work for good."</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <p></p><i></i>

[Moddey Screbbagh]

will have to see how this plays out obviously, but am amazed how the media (including big guns like the NYT and washpo) take the "sudden massive heart attack" idea and run with it. <br><br>looks like it was a pastor (incorrectly identified as a doctor on RAW) who is saying "massive coronary" and "his heart simply gave out." no comment from anyone in the medical field yet.<br><br>the more responsible thing would be to say at least "apparent" heart attack, as it is difficult to know unless a treating physician speaks up or until the autopsy is performed. and certainly the circumstances are suspicious..... <p></p><i></i>

[Gouda]

Good old Aspen, Colorado. I hear it is a nice place. <p></p><i></i>

[dranek7]

When is Abramoff's "massive coronary" coming?? Or is it going to be a freak car accident? <p></p><i></i>

[anothershamus]

The republician protection program. It's a ruse, he faked his death and will be living on a tropical island. <p></p><i></i>

[nomo]

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=technologyNews&storyID=2006-07-05T192446Z_01_N05296006_RTRIDST_0_TECH-ENRON-LAY-WIKIPEDIA-DC.XML">today.reuters.co.uk/news/...DIA-DC.XML</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Ken Lay's death prompts confusion on Wikipedia<br>Wed Jul 5, 2006 8:24 PM BST<br><br>NEW YORK (Reuters) - The death of former Enron Corp. chief Ken Lay on Wednesday underscored the challenges facing online encyclopedia Wikipedia (<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.wikipedia.org/),">www.wikipedia.org/),</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> which as the news was breaking offered a variety of causes for his death.<br><br>Lay, 64, died of a heart attack early on Wednesday, a family spokeswoman said, just six weeks after a jury found him guilty of fraud in one of the biggest corporate scandals in U.S. history.<br><br>Wikipedia, an online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, added news of Lay's death to his online biography shortly after news outlets began reporting it at around 10 a.m. EDT (1400 GMT).<br><br>At 10:06 a.m., Wikipedia's entry for Lay said he died "of an apparent suicide."<br><br>At 10:08, it said he died at his Aspen, Colorado home "of an apparent [[heart attack] or suicide.]."<br><br>Within the same minute, it said the cause of death was "yet to be determined."<br><br>At 10:09 a.m., it said "no further details have been officially released" about the death.<br><br>Two minutes later, it said: "The guilt of ruining so many lives finally <sic> led him to his suicide."<br><br>At 10.12 a.m., this was replaced by: "According to Lay's pastor the cause was a 'massive coronary' heart attack."<br><br>By 10:39 a.m., Lay's entry said: "Speculation as to the cause of the heart attack lead many people to believe it was due to the amount of stress put on him by the Enron trial." This statement was later dropped.<br><br>By early Wednesday afternoon, the entry said Lay was pronounced dead at Aspen Valley Hospital, citing the Pitkin, Colorado sheriff's department. It said he apparently died of a massive heart attack, citing KHOU-TV in Houston.<br><br>Officials at Wikipedia did not immediately return phone and e-mail requests for comment. Its Web site warns users that "newer articles may still contain significant misinformation, unencyclopedic content, or vandalism." Wikipedia says it has 13,000 active writers and editors.<br><br>Lay and Jeffrey Skilling, who replaced him as chief executive, were convicted for their roles in Enron's 2001 collapse. Both were awaiting sentencing and faced long prison terms. <p></p><i></i>

[slimmouse]

<br><br> A dead Ken Lay. <p></p><i></i>

[Fat Lady Singing]

It just goes to show how little I believe anything I read these days, and in what contempt I hold "them," in all their tiring manefestations. When I heard of Lay's death, I thought, "of course--I'm surprised he lasted this long. Clearly he was heart attacked." I had absolute confidence in my snap judgement. Still do. I keep wondering when the fat lady's song will end... <p></p><i></i>

[Avalon]

The old Lay's potato chip slogan was "Betcha can't eat just one." <br><br>Who is the eater, and who the eatee?<br><br>(eatee, call home. NOW) <p></p><i></i>

[Et in Arcadia ego]

Since when are Pastors capable of doing autopsies? Within 10 minutes? <p>____________________<br>Oderint, dum metuant</p><i></i>

[anotherdrew]

there's a lot of spooky pastors out there<br>with all sorts of non-pastoral training.<br><br>it almost sounds like the pastor was already at the house doesn't it... <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=anotherdrew>anotherdrew</A> at: 7/5/06 5:11 pm<br></i>

[PeterofLoneTree]

"Sudden Massive Heart Attack" Maybe<br><br>Reuters:<br>"Ken Lay's death prompts confusion on Wikipedia"<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=internetNews&storyID=2006-07-05T215252Z_01_N05296006_RTRIDST_0_OUKIN-UK-ENRON-LAY-WIKIPEDIA.XML">today.reuters.co.uk/news/...IPEDIA.XML</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>