Define NWO.

[just_dude]

ya'll understand what the origin of all these 7's are that have been flying around here are don't you?

7 years and 77 days after 9-11. Whatever day that is, I'm calling it for the start of WW3. Or aliens landing. Or world stock market collapse. Or--Well you know the score


No really I don't knwo. Anything. At. All.

[8bitagent]

All I know is, the Reagan administration also used BCCI to channel funds to the Afghan mujaheddin in the days when Bin Laden was a US hero. Two former CIA directors, Richard Helms and William Casey were involved in BCCI before it folded following revelations that it laundered money for the Medellin drugs cartel. William Casey died before the Iran Contra hearings took place. Among various sources:--"US arms group heads for Lisbon" The News, Portugal's English language Weekly, 4 April 2003. www.globalresearch.ca -"À qui profite le crime? Les liens financiers occultes des Bush et des Ben Laden" Réseau Voltaire 11 septembre 2001

Oh, and Carter was an investor in BCCI, it is also helpful to remember that John Kerry, that harbinger of left wing lunacy, AND GATEKEEPER was labeled a conspiracy theorist for his investigations of BCCI and its related "imaginary" unconstitutional and murderous conspiracy, Iran/Contra.

fwiw. BCCI just settled a lawsuit and the terms of this suit are not available for public information because they might upset people. I also think Riggs bank is simply a continuation of BCCI and Iran-Contra as well as and the Banco Nationale Lavarro and Iraq-gate.

Riggs was fined when they failed to disclose their relationship with Pinochet during investigations of terrorist funding...that seems to have been the end of it, as far as information under the Bush junta. Not to mention, Bush's Uncle Jonathan, was CEO of Riggs Bank
http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/ ... 99415.html
a "willful, systemic" violation of anti-money-laundering laws.

CONNECTION – JONATHAN BUSH AND RIGGS: Jonathan Bush, President Bush's uncle, was appointed CEO of Riggs Bank's investment arm in May of 2000, just months after his nephew secured the nomination for the presidency. At the time of the appointment, Jonathan Bush had already become a major financial backer of his nephew, rising to "Bush Pioneer" status by raising more than $100,000 for his nephew in 2000. The move solidified the relationship between Jonathan Bush and Riggs, which was originally initiated in 1997 when, according to American Banker newsletter, Riggs paid Bush $5.5 million for his smaller investment firm. That transaction, according to the NYT, "deepened [Riggs's] links to the Bushes." While Riggs denies any connection between Bush and the accounts being investigated in the money laundering probe, Riggs President Timothy Lex told the Washington Times in 1997 that "there's a blurring of distinctions between banks, mutual-fund families, broker dealers and everything else across the board."

It's way more complicated than Iran-Contra & BCCI now.

All hail the elite!

Actually, wasnt Riggs used by Saudi royals(including Prince Bandar's wife) to send funds to some of the 9/11 hijackers in 2000 who were living with a high level FBI informant? I mean thats shocking news that should have been headline news.

And absolutely, Riggs was a de facto continuation of BCCI. As is, the modern day Dubai banking system(of which virtually all the 9/11 money flowed through)

To really understand that era youre speaking of, one has to know
P2/Gladio, the effects of the Bush family friend who shot Reagan,
"the October Surprise", Negroponte and his Latin American/School of America ventures, Operation Cyclone, Brzezinski, and the CIA-ISI-Saudi-Mossad nexus.

And yes, it was Kerry who was exposing both CIA origins of the crack epidemic and BCCI...all but forgotten by those who called him a Skull and Bones fallguy.

[zhivkov]

Thanks all for this thread. I think the Casey fellows death was sort of odd if I am remembering right. I would like to ask a question to everyone on the thread or anyone thay sees it. What about that shot from the Bushy Knoll?-I think Mae Brussell said "How many coincidences does it take to make a conspiracy." This in reference to the attempted Reagan assassination. Some researchers think that Bush basically controlled the Reagan White House after this-though I disagree. I also thought that when GHWB cried at Reagan's funeral that that was also a nice piece of theater-of course it is even spookier if Bush really believes they were best buds. I also think that in America and in Europe there are at least to powerful factions that really despise each other no matter who is pulling their strings. The One World represented by Zbig, Soros and others who have an internationalist view. The other being the My country first represented by Berlusconi, the BNP, the current Bush and have a more fascistic outlook. Any thoughts on this or am I just barking up the wrong tree.ps also think GHWB wanted Jeb to be president and not W. Thanks again for all the information.

[Nordic]

I gotcher New World Order right here:



I mean, c'mon. This is where everything seems to be headed. [/list][/quote]

[zhivkov]

Good catch Nordic-maybe we will be there by the end of the month as things are going!

[vigilant]

ya'll understand what the origin of all these 7's are that have been flying around here are don't you?

7 years and 77 days after 9-11. Whatever day that is, I'm calling it for the start of WW3. Or aliens landing. Or world stock market collapse. Or--Well you know the score


No really I don't knwo. Anything. At. All.

lamechs revenge
revenge for the death of the descendents of cain

I just didn't say anything about it over the last few days and kept it to myself. But you may as well know the history of all these sevens.

[8bitagent]

ya'll understand what the origin of all these 7's are that have been flying around here are don't you?

7 years and 77 days after 9-11. Whatever day that is, I'm calling it for the start of WW3. Or aliens landing. Or world stock market collapse. Or--Well you know the score


No really I don't knwo. Anything. At. All.

Roughly November 26th. Remember, it was 911 days between
9/11/2001 and 3/11/2004(spanish bomb attacks)

And 555 days between 3/11/2004 and London 7/7/2005 bombing.

And hey, maybe the aliens will land at ground zero in 2012:)

[American Dream]

NWO, as I understand it, means the inner sanctum, the capstone of the pyramid, the ancient and all-powerful conspiracy from which all other conspiracies derive. I am not convinced there is such an animal, though I am also not convinced that such a thing does not exist.

Although clearly there are very deep cabals behind world affairs, and ancient mystical orders with their own agenda, I'm not sure that it's really useful to assume, a priori, that there is one unified conspiracy behind it all...

[8bitagent]

Although clearly there are very deep cabals behind world affairs, and ancient mystical orders with their own agenda, I'm not sure that it's really useful to assume, a priori, that there is one unified conspiracy behind it all...

Perhaps, all these disparate layers of secret cabals, orders, ect only appear to be random and detatched...to even these parties, they would see themselves as detatched...

but what if, there is indeed an invisible hand that connects them all and guides them?

[American Dream]

8bitagent wrote:

what if, there is indeed an invisible hand that connects them all and guides them?

I think about this possibility quite often, and it seems very possible that there is something of this afoot- that there is a multi-generational conspiracy, tied to European brotherhoods, with a more complex agenda than simply the pursuit of political and economic power. I would say that this is very, very possible.

However, the Devil is in the details, and whether the likely existence of multi-generational elites with occult tendencies therefore proves that Wall Street controlled Soviet Communism, or Zionists controlled the Nazis, that is a different question entirely.

So yes, there are elite conspiracies, some which have existed for generations, they may well harbor long-lasting plans, but the rest seems to be guess-work at this point in time...

[Hammer of Los]

This is a very good question.

I shall seek to compose some sort of answer. It is a central question. Personally I am convinced of the reality of what I call the NWO, although I may be wrong on any number of points, the basic thesis remains.

I will try and give it some thought. Really folk ought to have a think about this.

[rrapt]

Simplest way: Assume that it is true because many others with good streams of info have determined that it is, then start right in on sniffing out the details.

Saves time, and we're running out of that it seems to me.

[Uncle $cam]

"The technotronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values. Soon it will be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen and maintain up-to-date complete files containing even the most personal information about the citizen. These files will be subject to instantaneous retrieval by the authorities."

Zbigniew Brzezinski

Idebated on whither to post this here or in the recent 'McCain to audience: "My fellow prisoners..."" post.

[nathan28]

whoa, hold on

you guys know you are playing the reification game, right?

who is the the "NWO"? I don't know, but I'm thinking maybe it can be you or me, what with the clusterfuck going on out there right now.

i'm not saying there isn't a shadowy conspiracy out there. i'm saying let's take a deep breath and ignore the boogeyman for a moment or two, to clear our heads

[8bitagent]

8bitagent wrote:

what if, there is indeed an invisible hand that connects them all and guides them?

I think about this possibility quite often, and it seems very possible that there is something of this afoot- that there is a multi-generational conspiracy, tied to European brotherhoods, with a more complex agenda than simply the pursuit of political and economic power. I would say that this is very, very possible.

However, the Devil is in the details, and whether the likely existence of multi-generational elites with occult tendencies therefore proves that Wall Street controlled Soviet Communism, or Zionists controlled the Nazis, that is a different question entirely.

So yes, there are elite conspiracies, some which have existed for generations, they may well harbor long-lasting plans, but the rest seems to be guess-work at this point in time...

A few years ago I would have laughed at all this. Then I saw that early 20th century newspaper cartoon showing Marx being met with handshakes by all the top bankers. And then I learned about JP Morgan, Prescott Bush, IBM, Ford, Coca Cola, ect. Then I learned about The Order of the Black Hand, the Thule society.

And regardless if one sees John Dee and Kelly as "good guys", its clear the British monarchy was guided by the occult..a monarchy that was not up to altruistic means. Even the entire origins and reason for America I now question...regardless if the founding fathers had good intentions.

When you look at the public sacrificing, esoteric power structures of Latin American societies, Babylonians, ect...and you look at the European bloodlines through the middle ages to modern day; one has to wonder if there are multi generational powerful royal families tied with the occult that control major world spanning institutions. I was not shocked to read Freemasonry Today boast that Islamic extremism of the Salafist strain came from the heads of Egyptian Grand Orient Freemasonry, brought over from Napoleon.

Now...call me crazy, but I sadly feel that even above all this, even above a complex multi generational European brotherhood and black brotherhood worldwide...there is, a much more powerful invisible hand.
One that cannot be killed, one that cannot die. And one that explains how such an agenda can continue on for thousands of years even after generations die out. If only I believed Christ was the answer.