The 'Obama was (possibly) groomed by the CIA' thread

[OP ED]

usually.

i kicked the other thread, btw. it had not occurred to me that a fringe benefit of this community might be finding a person or two who might be interested in discussing P.F with me. if i had, i'd have done it already. don't know how i missed that topic.

(you're also the only person i'm aware of who noticed the light--orlackthereof--references, which i've found in several other nobby works, even in Russian, but i am unfamiliar with commentary on Vlad and this may be conventional knowledge)

[8bitagent]

Here's all the proof you need that this whole Obama phenomenon is not some organic event, but a carefully crafted psyop by the fine wizards in the global meme-gineering department(of cosmic giggles and winking methods)

Osama
Obama


9/11/2001, 11/4/2008.

One act and personality is meant to horrify and shock the world,
making people lose their minds and collating the collective nightmares(before and after 9/11) of people to a grand egregoric ptsd experiment.

The other act(Obama's win), was engineered by the same cabal to
have the same effect as 9/11, just with a "positive" euphoria. Same sort of emotional manipulation

For years, we hear nothing but "Osama! Osama! Osama is the devil!"

However as of late 2007 "Obama! Obama! Obama will save us"

The ultimate KWH/meme-gineering feat/mind fuck-a-roo, right in front of our faces

[OP ED]

or it could just be a coincidence.

[Sweejak]

Or synchronicity, maybe it is as Paul Levy and others say; that we collectively 'dream up' our reality.

[Nordic]

Or synchronicity, maybe it is as Paul Levy and others say; that we collectively 'dream up' our reality.

Then you've got that Barak guy in Israel.

It's all so strange ...

[jingofever]

Then you've got that Barak guy in Israel.

There's also Brak.

[8bitagent]

Or synchronicity, maybe it is as Paul Levy and others say; that we collectively 'dream up' our reality.

Now that's what Im talking about. The whole WrongWayWizard, Goro Adachi, Jake Kotze, SecretSun blog idea of syncs I find pretty interesting.

I dont actually believe "the CIA" or *insert some organization as a monolithic entity* is behind all these things like accidentcides of whistleblowers, terrorism, major events, etc.

or it could just be a coincidence.

9/11 happening 11 years to the day after Bush Sr's NWO speech...
The numbers flowing through 9/11...
Yankee's star pitcher crashing into the NYC highrise on 9/11/01 upsidedown
General who dared to scramble planes over DC on 9/11
DC Sniper using a "Bushmaster 223" rifle to terrorize the Virginia area in 02'
Princess Diana smashing into the 13th pillar on August 31st 1997...

etc are all coincidences to most.

But I do find the idea of syncs pretty interesting

[Sweejak]

Here's the Levy article which from initial appearances, especially at the time, seemed like another good Bush bashing, but he turned the tables. Since then he's gotten a little too blurry for me but always worth the read.

http://www.baltimorechronicle.com/011305PaulLevy.shtml

[compared2what?]

Or synchronicity, maybe it is as Paul Levy and others say; that we collectively 'dream up' our reality.

Then you've got that Barak guy in Israel.

It's all so strange ...

"Barak" is a common surname in Israel, though I can't find anything indicating exactly how common. FWIW, without data, I think of it as approximately as common as, say, an English surname like "White" -- ie, not, like, at the Smith/Jones level, but common enough that most people probably know or know of one or more "[John/Jane] White."

Most Israelis of Ashkenazi origin (ie -- most Israelis) hebraicized their diaspora surnames in one of a few ways, including by assuming whatever Hebrew word had more or less the same consonants as an English-to-Hebrew transliteration of the name they arrived with. (Hebrew doesn't really have vowels.) So "Barak" was kind of a go-to Hebraicization for a lot of Bergs, Bergmans, Berkowitzes, Bergers, Bercynskis, Berkows, Bieringers, Barkovskis, Behrenbacks, Bergsteins, Borovskis, Bruckers, Brechts, Brachmanns, and all the other numerous Polish-or-German-or-Slavic surnames derived from town-names or traditional occupations that include consonants that can, at a stretch transliterate in part as "Bet" followed in some order by "Resh" "Kaf" or "Gimel," as well as, possibly, "He" and "Lamed," although I didn't list any of those.

It means "lightning" in Hebrew. And...um. Well. I notice that's too much information already. So: And...oops, sorry.

[JackRiddler]

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c2w?, sometimes a vigorous debunking needs to be shorter, not because anything you ever say isn't a great read (it is - it ALWAYS is, seriously), but because the more reasonable information you establish, the more surface area will be found for the goo to attach itself. In this example, the "lightning" bit right at the end, while interesting and welcome, as information may get our mystical etymologists/numerologists off on yet another absurdist track.

EDIT: Got rid of a bunch of stuff cos I don't feel like a pointless flame war right now.

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[Sweejak]

Thus it is that people detect a certain indefinable insincerity underneath Obama's words - insincerity is now built in to the language of politics. (It is also inherent in the contradictions of our civilization's deep ideology, but that is a different matter.) Playing by the rules of the political game, as Obama most definitely does, he can do naught but lie. His "hope" and "change" will be exposed as the brands they are. People will see that there is little cause to hope, and that not much has changed. The despair, cynicism, and sense of betrayal that will result will foment a dangerous crisis and, in the end, a profound renewal of public discourse that demands truth and has no patience with inauthenticity.

Above I asked, "Where is the indignation, the outrage, at the lies in which we are immersed?" Clearly, the answer lies deeper than the machinations of one or another faction of the power elite. It lies deeper than the subversion and control of the media. Part of our society's apathy arises from a subtle and profound disempowerment: the de-potentiation of language itself, along with all other forms of symbolic culture. Words are losing their power to create and to transform. The result is a tyranny that can never be overthrown, but will only proceed toward totality until it collapses under the weight of the multiple crises it inevitably generates.

... If the President decides to bomb Iran, do you know how he will do it? With words. He literally has the power to speak a war into being. Like the Old Testament Jehovah, we create the world with our words. Neither the President nor Congress really ever does anything but talk (and write). Unless you work with your hands as a carpenter or garbage collector, you are probably the same.

Quite a bit more:
http://realitysandwich.com/ubiquitous_matrix_lies

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

The US is becoming a brown country, 15% African American + 13.5% Latin American.

It only makes sense that brown people who will both maintain the status quo and serve as a cred prop to disarm the left and the rest of the world would be profiled, indoctrinated, and pushed forward when needed.

I just didn't know the spook side of Obama during (s)Election 2008.

The false identity marketing during elections is tricky. Learning...

[compared2what?]

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c2w?, sometimes a vigorous debunking needs to be shorter, not because anything you ever say isn't a great read (it is - it ALWAYS is, seriously), but because the more reasonable information you establish, the more surface area will be found for the goo to attach itself. In this example, the "lightning" bit right at the end, while interesting and welcome, as information may get our mystical etymologists/numerologists off on yet another absurdist track.

EDIT: Got rid of a bunch of stuff cos I don't feel like a pointless flame war right now.

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Thanks for both the kind words and the just criticism.

[lupercal]

Or synchronicity, maybe it is as Paul Levy and others say; that we collectively 'dream up' our reality.

Then you've got that Barak guy in Israel.

It's all so strange ...

"Barak" is a common surname in Israel, though I can't find anything indicating exactly how common. FWIW, without data, I think of it as approximately as common as, say, an English surname like "White" -- ie, not, like, at the Smith/Jones level, but common enough that most people probably know or know of one or more "[John/Jane] White."

Most Israelis of Ashkenazi origin (ie -- most Israelis) hebraicized their diaspora surnames in one of a few ways, including by assuming whatever Hebrew word had more or less the same consonants as an English-to-Hebrew transliteration of the name they arrived with. (Hebrew doesn't really have vowels.) So "Barak" was kind of a go-to Hebraicization for a lot of Bergs, Bergmans, Berkowitzes, Bergers, Bercynskis, Berkows, Bieringers, Barkovskis, Behrenbacks, Bergsteins, Borovskis, Bruckers, Brechts, Brachmanns, and all the other numerous Polish-or-German-or-Slavic surnames derived from town-names or traditional occupations that include consonants that can, at a stretch transliterate in part as "Bet" followed in some order by "Resh" "Kaf" or "Gimel," as well as, possibly, "He" and "Lamed," although I didn't list any of those.

It means "lightning" in Hebrew. And...um. Well. I notice that's too much information already. So: And...oops, sorry.

Before this thread drops into oblivion I wanted to mention that I found this discussion of the name Barak very interesting. I don't know that it's supposed to debunk anything, so I'd disagree with Jack's comment, but it does raise the question of where the name Barack comes from, which this item from a community blog on my.barackobama.com appears to answer:

BARACK WAS NAMED AFTER HIS FATHER [Barack Obama Sr.], WHO WAS NAMED AFTER HIS FATHER.

Obama was named the way many men name their sons: after his father. Why a name that isn't traditionally heard in America should be considered a hindrance, I don't know, especially because we are a melting pot of people from all over the world. In any case, here are the facts, to clear up the misconceptions.

The meaning of the name Barack is Blessed. The origin of the name Barack is African. (Barack also mentions this in his speech at the 2004 Democratic Convention. SOURCE.) It is a linguistic cognate of the Hebrew Baruch.

http://my.barackobama.com/page/communit ... voter/CPDM

[Sweejak]

Well, there you have it.

Stories that Obama was installed by the CIA are ‘nonsense’

http://en.rian.ru/video/20090630/155394042.html