Roland Carnaby?

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His wife is suing

Postby dqueue » Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:29 pm

I haven't quite understood why exactly this was reported today. As far as I knew, she filed suit a year ago. Perhaps the court proceedings have begun? Anyhow, today KHOU, a Houston news outlet, reported:

Carnaby’s widow, Susan, has filed a civil suit against the city in federal court and, in documents reviewed by 11 News, claims Carnaby was in fact working for the CIA.

“The FBI and the CIA regularly fail to disclose the truth to the Houston Police Department,” one court filing said.

In another, Carnaby’s attorney says he plans to call a former Secret Service agent to testify “with respect to Mr. Carnaby’s work on behalf of the Secret Service and other federal agencies as a contract informant and operative.”

Randall Kallinen, Carnaby’s attorney, says he definitely was a CIA agent.

“He helped the United States of America with its threats, and then to be shot in the back and for police to claim that he was not working in the interest of the United States is a travesty,” Kallinen said.

Kallinen plans to call former President George H.W. Bush to the stand to support Carnaby’s claim. According to court documents Kallinen expects Bush would testify regarding his prior associations and personal acquaintance with Mr. Carnaby, and regarding Mr. Carnaby’s involvement in uncovering two assassination plots on the life of President Bush.
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Postby cptmarginal » Wed Jul 01, 2009 11:59 am

Kallinen plans to call former President George H.W. Bush to the stand to support Carnaby’s claim. According to court documents Kallinen expects Bush would testify regarding his prior associations and personal acquaintance with Mr. Carnaby, and regarding Mr. Carnaby’s involvement in uncovering two assassination plots on the life of President Bush.


Again very weird stuff and tenuous "connections" to Poppy Bush...
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Postby MinM » Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:18 pm

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Postby MinM » Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:00 pm

Another man who knew too much? And perhaps, like Carnaby, a victim of Cheney's Cleaners?

Was Dr. David Kelly killed because he knew too much?

By Ken Craggs
Online Journal Contributing Writer
Jul 14, 2009, 00:19

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According to the UK’s Sunday Express, British weapons inspector Dr. David Kelly was writing an expose which would include his work with anthrax. Dr. David Kelly was an expert in biological warfare agents, as well as a former United Nations weapons inspector in Iraq.

An excerpt from the newspaper article reads, “He had several discussions with a publisher in Oxford and was seeking advice on how far he could go without breaking the law on secrets.”

Dr David Kelly’s death -- said to have been suicide -- came days after he gave testimony to the House of Commons about a memo which purported that Britain had “sexed up” a dossier on Iraq’s alleged weapons of mass destruction.

The allegations of a potential Kelly expose come from a new film about biological weapons being debuted in London on the sixth anniversary of Dr. Kelly’s death, titled “Anthrax War.” The documentary was shown earlier this year on Canadian public television.

A suspicious pattern of deaths of prominent microbiologists has emerged around the world, but especially highly-advanced researchers connected with the USA, the UK, Russia, and Israel. Were many of these microbiologists murdered because of what they knew or had discovered?

The following quote is taken from ‘Rebuilding America’s Defenses‘ the leading policy “white paper” of the Project for a New American Century (PNAC), which essentially dictated the Bush regime’s “defense” policies from early 2001: “ . . . advanced forms of biological warfare that can ‘target’ specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool.” See page 90 for the participants credited with this document.

Dr. David Kelly was head of microbiology at Porton Down and worked with two American scientists, Benito Que, 52, and Don Wiley, 57. Both Que and Wiley had been engaged in DNA sequencing that could provide a genetic marker based on genetic profiling. Google ‘Genome specific biological warfare.’

In November 2001, Benito Que left his laboratory after receiving a telephone call. Shortly afterward he was found comatose in the parking lot of the Miami Medical School. He died without regaining consciousness. Police said he had suffered a heart attack. His family insisted he had been in perfect health and claimed four men attacked him. Later, however, the family inquest returned a verdict of death by natural causes.

There are some unanswered questions about Benito Que’s death.

Who was the caller who caused Benito Que to leave his lab? What attempts did the police make to track the four alleged attackers -- after police admitted that Que was the “probable” victim of an attempt to steal his car? What happened to Que’s sensitive research into DNA sequencing? How close were Que’s connections to Dr. David Kelly? ...
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follow-up reporting on Roland Carnaby

Postby dqueue » Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:48 pm

The Houston Press follows up on the twisted tale of Roland Carnaby. The writer unearths depositions from former intelligence officers (of various agencies) that corroborates some of Roland Carnaby's claims... it seems he does have a history in the black arts of intel gathering...

Michael Bechaud, formerly with the FBI, and James Napolitano, an ex-Secret Service officer, gave sworn statements during separate depositions following his death that they used Carnaby as a confidential informant. According to Napolitano, the Secret Service tried to keep him from talking. A Department of Justice lawyer was present during the depositions to make sure the men did not divulge classified information.
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In a letter to Bechaud, Carnaby outlined 18 investigations he allegedly worked on. They included: two assassination attempts on the first President Bush, one in Kuwait and the other in London; the 1993 World Trade Center bombing; a Secret Service operation regarding an Iranian counterfeiting scheme called the "Super Note" case; the alleged sale of classified information by a U.S. customs agent; the shipment of nuclear materials from Russia to unfriendly nations; the delivery of nuclear fuel rods to Syria and Iran; Hamas terrorist activity and others.
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"I know Roland's godfather was one of the leaders in Lebanon, and I know that his father is very influential over there because of his former position in the government," Shields says. "His father had connections with every businessman in the country. Anybody who wanted to see the president of Lebanon went through Karnabe Sr., so he knew where every bit of money was being made, every bit of shipping was being done and how the ports worked. He was presidential-like, a statesman."

The Karnabes were also rich."
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Postby cptmarginal » Wed Sep 16, 2009 3:17 pm

Thanks, dqueue

That's quite a pedigree!
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Judge throws out lawsuit...

Postby dqueue » Thu Oct 29, 2009 3:11 pm

Unfortunate, yet unsurprising, news out of Houston. Her attorney plans to file an appeal.

A federal judge Wednesday tossed out a lawsuit filed by the widow of a man who claimed to be a CIA agent and who was shot at the end of a high speed police chase.

U.S. District Judge Keith Ellison ruled that the claims of Susan Carnaby failed under the law and should not be put before a jury.

The widow of 52-year-old Roland Carnaby sued the city and Houston Police Department Sgt. Andrew Washington and officer Cecil Foster, who each fired at her husband.

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“The court finds that the officers reasonably feared for their lives at the moment they shot Carnaby, and thus, that no constitutional deprivation occurred,” Ellison wrote.
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Appeal moving forward... Re: Roland Carnaby?

Postby dqueue » Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:15 am

Yesterday, Houston Chronicle updates regarding Susan Carnaby's appeal in the US Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals. Nothing new, really, but a continuance of the weird circumstances of Roland Carnaby's death. Oh, and a new photo of Carnaby standing next to James Baker, Bush family "fixer".

New look at alleged CIA man's death
Appeals court hears arguments about HPD action
By JAMES PINKERTON
HOUSTON CHRONICLE
Dec. 14, 2010, 9:13PM

The bizarre circumstances of the killing of self-proclaimed CIA agent Roland Carnaby by Houston police was the stuff of political espionage.

Carnaby led officers on a high-speed chase more than two years ago after expressing fears he was being targeted for an agency assassination. The case faded into the background, but now seizes the spotlight again after a New Orleans appeals court agreed to reconsider it.

The lawsuit by Carnaby's widow cites repeated failures by Houston police to follow established procedures when officers approach a vehicle they stop in a high-risk situation, also known as a felony stop. Carnaby was shot in the back after a pair of officers rushed his car, counter to police policy requiring officers to take cover and wait after ordering a suspect to get out of a car.
Initial suit dismissed

Last week, the U.S. Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals in New Orleans heard arguments about the officers' conduct and the department's training procedures in a case brought by Susan Carnaby, the Houston school teacher who was married to the shooting victim, 52.

The initial civil rights case was dismissed in October 2009 by a federal judge, who ruled officers were in fear for their lives when they shot and killed Carnaby and thus did not violate his constitutional rights.

City attorney Dave Feldman said there was no evidence the incident was related to a lack of training or supervision.

"We feel very comfortable with our position in the case and on appeal,“ Feldman said. "Obviously, it's unfortunate any time a citizen is injured and killed, but the record demonstrated these officers acted reasonably under the circumstances, and there was no constitutional violations, or any violations, of Mr. Carnaby's rights."

Officer Charles Foster, who shot Carnaby in the back, said the limited training the department provided on high-risk stops was not adequate to prepare him for such a confrontation, according to his deposition filed as part of the appeal. The officer said the training occurred in a classroom at the police academy since it was raining; chairs were used to simulate passengers sitting in a stopped vehicle.

Attorney Randal Kallinen is asking the appeals court to consider if the city can be held liable for allowing officers to continue to violate the high-risk policy.

Carnaby did considerable work for the FBI, the Secret Service and the CIA in some very significant cases, Kallinen said. The CIA has denied Carnaby was ever an employee or a contractor with the spy agency. Carnaby did head up the Houston chapter of the Association of Former Intelligence Officers, but he "went too far“ when he claimed he was a full-fledged CIA officer, said Elizabeth Bancroft, the executive director of the AFIO in McLean, Va.

"The tragedy is he did a lot of good,“ Bancroft said. "He was wonderful for the Houston chapter, and what he did for the country. But it was never enough."
Flashed a CIA badge

The fatal encounter began on April 29, 2008, when HPD officers stopped Carnaby for speeding on Texas 288 in his black Jeep Commander. Carnaby flashed a badge indicating he was a CIA agent but would not let officers examine it, and had a red and blue strobe light on his dash. He eventually fled the scene before officers, who had been convinced he was impersonating a federal officer, could issue him a citation.

However, Carnaby's vehicle soon ran out of gas and when officers approached his vehicle a second time, he ignored their orders to exit the car. One officer broke out the passenger-side window with a baton. As Carnaby emerged he dropped the cell phone he was using to confer with an FBI agent, according to the lawsuit. When he bent down to pick it up, two officers shot at him saying they believed the object to be a handgun.
Procedure not followed?

Feldman said officers were reacting to Carnaby's bending down, contrary to what he was told. "They knew he was licensed to carry a handgun, and in fact, there were three guns found in his car," he said.

The elapsed time between the time Carnaby stopped a second time and his shooting was 92 seconds, Kallinen said, adding that officers should have stayed back and waited him out.

"When the vehicles stopped, they should have got behind vehicles for cover, and called him on out with the bullhorn. They should not have rushed him at all, or bashed in the side of the window. That's the problem,“ said Kallinen, adding the squad car's sirens were blaring, making it hard to understand the officer's instructions.

Kallinen said Houston police records show officers who violate the high-risk approach policy receive little punishment, if at all, and do not get re-training. Susan Carnaby's lawsuit asks not only for damages, but for an injunction to force HPD to improve training.


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Re: Roland Carnaby?

Postby Jeff » Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:30 am

Thanks for the update, dqueue.
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Re: Roland Carnaby?

Postby norton ash » Wed Dec 15, 2010 12:07 pm

"When the vehicles stopped, they should have got behind vehicles for cover, and called him on out with the bullhorn. They should not have rushed him at all, or bashed in the side of the window. That's the problem,“ said Kallinen, adding the squad car's sirens were blaring, making it hard to understand the officer's instructions.


Well 'that's the problem' indeed. I'd say those cops managed to solve a big problem for someone else, though.

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Re: Roland Carnaby?

Postby StarmanSkye » Wed Dec 15, 2010 12:20 pm

Yes, 2nd that (on edit: 3rd) thanks; What a baffling mystery. We can only speculate that Carnaby might have stumbled onto something that presented an ethical dilemna or otherwise compromised his personal safety. It's rather hard to see his killing as a targetted assassination since no-doubt less high-profile, professional means are available to mimic natural causes or something more 'really' accidental -- but then again, the end result in this case (pending possible civil remedy) could be considered a success ruled a 'justifiable' shooting. Though the attendant publicity throws a bit of a spotlight on things. I doubt this incident will ever be clearly explained to the public which doesn't have an authorized need to know. It may just be that in the midst of his deep-cover intrigues his paranoia made him susceptable to a dark sinister fantasy that through his own poorly-considered actions he then became the self-fulfilling tragic victim of. Quixotic irony, anyone? R.I.P.
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