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The Invention of Santa Claus

Postby 82_28 » Sun Dec 06, 2009 12:31 pm

I have no idea what this is doing on a site promoting the movie "Be My Oswald". Haven't seen it, haven't heard of it. But it includes a fascinating timeline of the origins of Christmas and why we all have to follow in lockstep to "celebrate" it. Check it out:

http://www.bemyoswald.com/Santa_timeline/santa_280.php
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Postby American Dream » Sun Dec 06, 2009 12:35 pm

Then of course there are the contentions that Santa is a shaman, inspired by ancestral memories of Amanita Muscaria use...
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Postby 82_28 » Sun Dec 06, 2009 12:43 pm

Cool. Fascinating AD. I've known some of that from the past. But the best, concise write-up I've seen yet. Thanks!

The timeline, to me, I think gets good once you get more to the "modern age" in which we inhabit. Just the capitalistic rituals and hoops we are required to jump thru. Especially if you have kids. (thank god I don't)
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Postby 82_28 » Sun Dec 06, 2009 12:46 pm

1500 AD
For centuries now, the Christmas holiday "season" or Winter Solstice is a time of excessive drinking, feasting, rude and offensive public behavior including but not limited to mocking of authority, aggressive begging, public fornication, home invasion of the rich ( this is linked to the idea or custom of "trick or treat" whereby the lowly could "knock" and ask for a drink or to be seated at the notable's table for "treat" and if denied a a nasty "trick" would be made against the house. ) This accepted behavior was called "Misrule". Another act of "misrule" would be to black one's face and cross-dress ( called Mumming ) or make disguise as animals to provide anonymity for debauched public behavior which included the disgraceful act of "Christmas caroling" ( drunken sing-a- longs ) At the time Misrule had little or no major threat upon society, it really strengthened the status quo by allowing the less fortunate, the poor and powerless, an opportunity to blow off steam. Sounds a lot like our modern "spring break".

The Winter Solstice celebration or feast came in December because it was the end of the harvest with less daylight and to cold to plow, but cold enough that slaughtered animals could be eaten and stored and the beer and wine was ready to drink.
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Postby 2012 Countdown » Sun Dec 06, 2009 4:13 pm

American Dream wrote:Then of course there are the contentions that Santa is a shaman, inspired by ancestral memories of Amanita Muscaria use...


Google video, "The Pharmacratic Inquisition"...
Relevant time marks Santa is discussed are:

54:16 an intro,and 56:26 to 101:48
(much historical detail/correlation is recited and visual examples are shown here in the second)
Link:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9004494877846161987&ei=RAviSqGLKYnYrQLe6vzqBw&q=The+Pharmacratic+Inquisition#
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Postby elfismiles » Mon Dec 07, 2009 2:17 pm

this story is about a militant female vegetarian who conspires to assassinate Santa Claus at the annual New York City click here to see santa timeline

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“this time line is a document that authorities discovered in B’s journal that is believed researched and compiled by B and is presented to the public as further evidence of her action”.

In looking for the seeds of what we have come to know as Santa Claus i have traced it back to one person but, he is mostly a northern hemisphere phenomenon-mixed effort-of myths, creatures and legends...Santa is your basic mutt. However, my search has led me to conclude that the connection between today's Santa Claus & Christmas is a contrived invention by a handful of "respectable" men living in New York City circa the 1820's.

http://www.bemyoswald.com/Santa_timelin ... meline.php
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Postby elfismiles » Mon Dec 07, 2009 2:29 pm

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Postby Sounder » Mon Dec 07, 2009 4:11 pm

James Arthur wrote...
The time has come for this knowledge to be revealed into plain sight. It is no longer the property of those few elite to keep hidden from the general population. The sleepers must awaken.


It's easy to keep it hidden if the 'general population' dosn't want to know.

Things are not really as hidden as both sides make them out to be.
All these things will continue as long as coercion remains a central element of our mentality.
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Postby JackRiddler » Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:17 am

Second sentence of OP link: "Hagios" is not a name. It means "saint."

Agios Nikolaos is the legend I'm named after, along with about one in ten of all Greeks.

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He's the patron of hospitality and the guardian of sailors, travelers, merchants, prostitutes and children, which pretty much covers all Greeks.

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The timeline gets really interesting from 1809 or so. So Washington Irving invented Santa Claus, as well as the modern short story form.

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I see now that the timeline, though apparently accurate historically, is part of the fiction attached to the film. The pretense is that it was compiled by B, the "militant vegetarian" protagonist who conspires to assassinate "Santa Claus" from a sixth-floor window at the end of the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade, hoping to strike a televised blow against the global capitalist system.

It's a hell of a movie pitch.

Oh, my! It ran until last Thursday. I wish I'd seen this sooner, because I'd have wanted to go.
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Postby happenstance » Tue Dec 08, 2009 7:25 pm

2012 Countdown wrote:
American Dream wrote:Then of course there are the contentions that Santa is a shaman, inspired by ancestral memories of Amanita Muscaria use...


Google video, "The Pharmacratic Inquisition"...
Relevant time marks Santa is discussed are:

54:16 an intro,and 56:26 to 101:48
(much historical detail/correlation is recited and visual examples are shown here in the second)
Link:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9004494877846161987&ei=RAviSqGLKYnYrQLe6vzqBw&q=The+Pharmacratic+Inquisition#


Terrence McKenna did a great break down of this theory once. Gotta find it.
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Postby professorpan » Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:51 pm

James Arthur hanged himself while facing pedophilia charges several years ago. I met him once, at a conference, and his presentation and research both struck me as very speculative and, in many cases, nonsensical.

EDIT: Oops, sorry, missed elfis's links. My bad. But from discussing him with people who knew him, I don't think his suicide was fishy at all.
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Postby AlicetheKurious » Wed Dec 09, 2009 4:58 pm

Yes, very interesting history, but what accounts for the endurance and vast popularity of the secular version of the Santa myth?

I can't help thinking it has something to do with the fact that he's a jolly red man who goes up and down various chimneys, depositing "gifts" inside. Falalalala lalalala.

Or not. :oops:
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Postby barracuda » Wed Dec 09, 2009 5:49 pm

Excuse me for parsing you this literally, Alice, but are you implying that Kris Kringle's enduring legacy is as a metaphor for fornication and ejaculation in which he functions as a ersatz penis? How very Christmassy.

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Postby AlicetheKurious » Wed Dec 09, 2009 6:55 pm

barracuda wrote:Excuse me for parsing you this literally, Alice, but are you implying that Kris Kringle's enduring legacy is as a metaphor for fornication and ejaculation in which he functions as a ersatz penis? How very Christmassy.


My goodness, what a dirty mind you have, barracuda!

Actually, it's more, uh, Xmassy.
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