ex-mossad:U.S. Terror Attack

by **hmm** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:01 am

I saw this story on 10-7 and didnt think much of it but i'm posting it here in light of the "MI-6 Agents Caught Trying To Blow Up Chicago Subway" thread, not because i'm so sure that thread is on to something but as a precaution if it is.Its from foxnews for what thats worth. The important thing about the item is that a ex-mossad agent says there is "chatter" implicating a imminent attack on the USA with multiple targets in rural america focusing on "mass transportation". <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,128626,00.html">www.foxnews.com/story/0,2...26,00.html</a> "Counterterrorism expert Juval Aviv spoke with FOX Fan Central about what Americans can do to protect themselves in case of a terror attack. Do you believe another terrorist attack is likely on American soil? I predict, based primarily on information that is floating in Europe and the Middle East, that an event is imminent and around the corner here in the United States. It could happen as soon as tomorrow, or it could happen in the next few months. Ninety days at the most. ~snip~ What they’re going to do is hit six, seven or eight cities simultaneously to show sophistication and really hit the public. This time, which is the message of the day, it will not only be big cities. They’re going to try to hit rural America. They want to send a message to rural America: "You’re not protected. If you figured out that if you just move out of New York and move to Montana or to Pittsburgh, you’re not immune. We’re going get you wherever we can and it’s easier there than in New York. ~snip~ Juval Aviv is a former Israeli Counterterrorism Intelligence Officer and President and CEO of Interfor, Inc. Mr. Aviv has also served as a special consultant to the U.S. Congress on issues of terrorism and security and is the author of “Staying Safe : The Complete Guide to Protecting Yourself, Your Family, and Your Business.”" a bit more on the background of this Juval Aviv <a href="http://www.namebase.org/cgi-bin/nb01?Na=aviv+juval">www.namebase.org/cgi-bin/...aviv+juval</a> <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,92853,00.html">www.foxnews.com/story/0,2...53,00.html</a> "Before founding Interfor, Aviv served as an officer in the Israel Defense Force (Major, retired) leading an elite Commando/ Intelligence Unit, and was later selected by the Israeli Secret Service (Mossad) to participate in a number of intelligence and special operations in many countries in the late 1960s and 1970s. Consequently, for over 30 years, Aviv has worked with corporations and other entities, both domestically and internationally, on security measures for the protection of assets and personnel." As you can see this is not just any old anti-terror wanna-bee and he is warning that there is "chatter" concerning a imminent attack on mass transportation with multiple targets in rural america.Make of it what you will,he obviously has his own agenda but then again who doesnt.

by **chiggerbit** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:58 am

I've often wondered about the Amtrak station in Chicago. Is there anything above it? It's right downtown, isn't it? It's always loaded with people, and has struck me since 9/11 as being a possible target.

by **digby** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:13 pm

Well, they're the experts. Another US attack will do wonders for the PTB: Instituting the draft will be much easier now that they are up and running. Good excuse for-- ushering in martial law seizing property for the 'war effort' excusing the debut of sleek new weapons, inc nukes rounding up all those aggravating 'dissenters' & putting them to work---or else invading whoever's next on the seizure agenda Israel to provoke an 'attack' & invade Lebanon whilst finalyzing the Palestinian problem once and for all as they are eager to get on with their agenda as well-- 'Terror' can be amazingly useful, expedient, & effective in the hands of a state--not so much for bands of disgruntled individuals.

by **heyjt** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:26 pm

If I remember correctly,Aviv and Interfor were behind the story that the Lockerbie flight was hit to take out the intel team of Major Charles MacKie (sp?), who was returning from Europe with info that could have exposed Iran-Contra-- further research pending-- If so, I would consider his information worth listening to

by **hanshan** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:30 pm

.... "Capture their minds and their hearts and souls will follow". <a href="http://www.psywarrior.com/" target="top">www.psywarrior.com/</a> CNN AND PSYOPS <a href="http://www.counterpunch.org/cnnpsyops.html" target="top">www.counterpunch.org/cnnpsyops.html</a> The Return of PSYOPS Military's media manipulation demands more investigation 12/3/04 <a href="http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1983" target="top">www.fair.org/index.php?page=1983</a> Skolnick/Flocco/stewwebb shameless rumormongers best to educate yourself ...

by **Dreams End** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:36 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>The important thing about the item is that a ex-mossad agent says there is "chatter" implicating a imminent attack on the USA with multiple targets in rural america focusing on "mass transportation"<hr></blockquote>. I'm trying to figure out what sorts of mass tranportation targets there are in "rural America."

by **chiggerbit** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:27 pm

Heehee, you're right, Dreams End. Maybe somebody should tell mossad that Amtrak is almost dead and there are only a handful of lines left through the rural middle of the country, and there are no such things as subways in Iowa, Nebraska, the Dakotas..... Maybe they consider KC or St. Louis as "rural". I suppose it could be a bus or bus station. "Rural" people have their own transportation, because it's impossible to get around without it. Trying to think of a single household around here without a vehicle, and the only one I can think of is an elderly lady with Alzheimers who had her car taken away by her family. So, even if the terrorist blew up a bus, it wouldn't create panic because so few use public transportation, hence few would think, "Ohmygosh, that could have been me". I'd still place my money on the Amtrak station in Chicago. Hope Homeland Security is on the ball. Oh, right, we have Prezidin Doofus running things. Heads up, Chicago, you're on your own. Anybody know if there is a major building above Amtrak station in Chicago, or know what's next-door? My next bet would be Washington DC, next would be something like Dallas, next would be the Mall of America or Disney World. Oh, shoot, I just thought of something--all the state fairs going on in August. Hmmm...put that at the top of the list after Chicago.

by **hmm** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:41 pm

i take it to mean "not new-york or washington dc" from the article: "What they’re going to do is hit six, seven or eight cities simultaneously to show sophistication and really hit the public. This time, which is the message of the day, it will not only be big cities. They’re going to try to hit rural America. They want to send a message to rural America: "You’re not protected. If you figured out that if you just move out of New York and move to Montana or to Pittsburgh, you’re not immune. We’re going get you wherever we can and it’s easier there than in New York." mass transit could be a smaller airport or a busy overpass,maybe a large bridge?i'm not that familiar with the USA to know if Pittsburgh has mass transit or if other cities in what would be called "rural america" have places where a couple of well placed bombs could disrupt most traffic. why the article originally caught my eye was how sure he was,and how precise his warning was, and that he mentioned there was "chatter", and well,the fact that hes obviously a well connected spook from a country that has large investment in their being a war between "democracy" and islam.

by **OnoI812** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:42 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>Skolnick/Flocco/stewwebb...shameless rumormongers<hr></blockquote> what praytell...does this gang have do with any one of your links? and if your suggesting they're psyops agents...thanks for the laugh

by **chiggerbit** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 4:03 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>"Terrorists love to use truck bombs. ... The bigger the truck, the more explosives they can get into the things."<hr></blockquote> How about an RV, one of the big ones? Lots of those at state fairs and other annual events like old threshers. And rural America does love its state fairs.

by **digby** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:14 pm

"What they're going to do is hit six, seven or eight cities simultaneously to show sophistication and really hit the public. This time, which is the message of the day, it will not only be big cities. They're going to try to hit rural America. They want to send a message to rural America: "You're not protected." Just had The Newshour on and one of the guests used this same rhetoric re London. "The message these terrorists are sending is 'You're not safe--you don't even have the underground secure yet. You're not protected'--but the British are now writing new legislation..." When I first read this post I thought of the rash of Israelis in white vans arrested in various, and seemingly unrelated areas of the country. Areas which,in this ex-Mossad's description, would qualify as rural America. King's Bay sub station, rural Appalachia, the Mid-west, and Chicago, IIRC. Most involving rather odd circumstances: pitching mysterious chemical compounds from the vehicle as they were chased; flight school brochures found in the vehicles; maps of US nuke installations; ludicrous cover stories, etc. Six, seven, or eight places simultaneously?

by **dbeach** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 9:14 pm

I do agree with this is war and it is indeed "a battle for your mind " and soul [soul meaning psyche in ancient greek} This war will again have the victors writing the history books..VIVA the truth! how do the talking heads speaking on big brothers govt controled TV ..speak with such certainty of the next attack..???

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