My goodness! This Glenn Beck guy

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My goodness! This Glenn Beck guy

Postby 82_28 » Sat Jan 23, 2010 7:10 pm

Behold. Glenn Beck's "The Revolutionary Holocaust". OMFG I am scared. There is literally nothing we can do about these people. It so wrong on EVERYTHING and proud of it, I very truly fear it is no longer wrong, but it is right -- as in correct. History, motives, definitions, morality, ethics, you name it -- being totally rewritten before our very eyes. Just unbelievable the evil of these entities. Utterly infuriatingly unbelievable. And right there in the "mainstream".

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Postby barracuda » Sat Jan 23, 2010 7:16 pm

82_28 wrote:My goodness! This Glenn Beck guy


And, gracious sake's alive! That Hitler fellow.
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Re: My goodness! This Glenn Beck guy

Postby slomo » Sat Jan 23, 2010 7:37 pm

It so wrong on EVERYTHING and proud of it

Fractally wrong is the applicable term here...
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Re: My goodness! This Glenn Beck guy

Postby Simulist » Sat Jan 23, 2010 7:58 pm

slomo wrote:
It so wrong on EVERYTHING and proud of it

Fractally wrong is the applicable term here...


That expression is sure to come in handy — especially nowadays, Slomo. Thanks.

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Re: My goodness! This Glenn Beck guy

Postby Nordic » Sun Jan 24, 2010 2:15 am

Never forget that CNN is where he began. They created him as a TV "personality".
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Re: My goodness! This Glenn Beck guy

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Sun Jan 24, 2010 2:20 pm

Thanks for this, I actually appreciated a small, powerful dose of this poison.

And I gotta say, damn! Even a cynic I'm kind of taken aback by how far Fox News has gone down the road to outright incitements to violence. Fun times!
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Re: My goodness! This Glenn Beck guy

Postby American Dream » Mon Jan 25, 2010 3:07 pm

http://mediamatters.org/research/201001220026

Beck's "shocking" and "disturbing" documentary caps month of suggesting progressives are prone to violence

January 22, 2010


In recent weeks Glenn Beck has promoted a documentary special titled "Revolutionary Holocaust" that he says shows "really disturbing and shocking stuff," purportedly to show "the dirty little secret" that progressives helped cause "some of the most horrifying outcomes in history." Beck's documentary comes at the end of a month-long campaign during which he has used violent rhetoric suggesting that progressives pose a physical danger to President Obama and "you."

Beck promotes special that shows "the dirty little secret" that progressives caused "some of the most horrifying outcomes in history"


Beck promises that upcoming "documentary" on the "unseen history of Marxism, progressivism and communism" will show what "progressives don't want you to know." On his Fox News show, Beck has promoted his January 22 special, "Revolutionary Holocaust," stating on January 21: "It is really, really disturbing and shocking stuff on a multiple of levels. Most of America is going to be stunned for what they see tomorrow night, because they're going to see history that they have never even heard of. History that -- I mean, honest to goodness, you will see film footage of things that you didn't even think existed. Why? Well, you haven't seen it because progressives don't want you to know about it." Beck continued:
BECK: It is history that is not being taught in classrooms in America. But tomorrow night, you're going to see it -- the true, unseen history of Marxism, progressivism, and communism. You gonna see what Michael Moore's beloved Cuba really is, at least the way only the people who are lucky enough to live through Castro's regime remember. You're going to see Che. I love this guy. He's not really the happy-go-lucky kid who rode around on his motorcycle like Hollywood tells us he is. His real exploits will make even the more granola hippie lose their Che shirt. We also have footage from the Soviet Union that has been buried in the vaults of the KGB.

[...]

Well, you see, the dirty little secret that communists, Marxists, and progressives don't want you to know is their system has never ever worked.

And not only has it never worked, it has led to some of the most horrifying outcomes in history. You think that guy -- you think that guy was the only one that did it? And you think this guy is from the right? Oh, yeah, really?

Make sure you tune in tomorrow. People wouldn't support Mao and they wouldn't be wearing a Mao hat if they knew they were endorsing somebody who killed tens of millions of people. That's Anita Dunn -- she said, you know, "One of the great philosophers that I think of most is Mao."

She knows who he is, but most Americans don't, because progressives tend to breeze past that little speed bump in history. I told you back in December that this program is going to change. Tomorrow is the first real step in that direction.

You see, progressives knew 100 years ago you can't win a battle against our Founding Fathers. Progressives had to change the course of history by changing history itself. If you can convince people that killers are cool, and get them to wear a t-shirt, you'll win their hearts and minds.


"Progressive hunter" Beck's violence-laden campaign suggesting that progressives pose a danger to Obama and "you"

Beck: Obama "is in danger from the left" because he "has surrounded himself with extraordinarily dangerous people." During an interview with Sarah Palin on his radio show, Beck claimed that he makes "a pretty good compelling case" that President Obama "is in danger from the left because the left is the only one with a real history of violence." Beck further stated that Obama "has surrounded himself with extraordinarily dangerous people that actually do believe that power comes from the barrel of a gun." [Premiere Radio Networks' The Glenn Beck Program, 1/21/2010]

Beck suggests Obama in danger from his advisers: "Dear God, protect our president." Discussing former White House adviser Van Jones, Beck asked, "Do you think it's safe to have an individual like that around the president of the United States? Are you comfortable with that?" Beck concluded: "Please pray for our Secret Service, make sure that they do their job. Dear God, protect our president." [Fox News' Glenn Beck, 1/21/2010]

Beck: Progressive civil war "could become dangerous": "Let me show you why the president is in danger." Beck stated of Sen.-elect Scott Brown's victory in the Massachusetts special election: "[It's] going to trigger a revolution or a civil war in the Democratic Party. It's progressives versus Democrats. It's blue versus gray. And this is a war that I think could become dangerous -- hopefully not." Beck further asserted that "the republic is in danger" and stated that "the president is in danger" from "revolutionaries" such as former White House communications director Anita Dunn and SEIU president Andy Stern. [Fox News' Glenn Beck, 1/20/2010]

Beck: "Pray that the Secret Service care for" Obama. After stating that he "hope[s] to God that we never ever have to have an actual battle," Beck discussed a "verbal battle" between "the progressive, uber-revolutionary left" and "those who believe in the republic," and commented, "Watch the uber-left. Pray that Obama moves to the center. If he does, pray that the Secret Service care for that man." [Premiere Radio Networks' The Glenn Beck Program, 1/20/2010]

Beck's website: "Progressives want you dead." On his website, Beck posted the headline: "Not 'useful'? Progressives want you dead"

Beck: Progressives "started a hundred-year time bomb, they planted it in the early 1900s." Purporting to discuss the history of progressivism, Beck claimed: "I saw their influence. I saw what they set up. They started a hundred-year time bomb, they planted it in the early 1900s." [Fox News' Glenn Beck, 1/7/2010]

Beck: "To the day I die, I am going to be a progressive hunter." Telling his audience that they "are going to learn so much on Friday," Beck compared himself to "Israeli Nazi hunters" and commented "I'm going to find these big progressives and to the day I die I'm going to be a progressive hunter." [Premiere Radio Networks' The Glenn Beck Program, 1/20/2010]

Beck: Progressives "are sucking the blood out of the republic" and are "gonna start getting more and more violent." On his Fox News show, Beck stated that "the progressive movement is sucking the blood out of the republic" and that their "playbook" is to "lie, cheat, steal." On his radio show, Beck warned that progressive "vampires" have a "taste of blood" and are "gonna start getting more and more violent."

Beck: "Grab a torch." Asserting that politicians are addicted to spending," Beck stated: "When do we ever run those who are bankrupting our country and literally stealing our children's future out of town? Grab a torch." [Fox News' Glenn Beck, 1/6/2010]

Beck has long history of violent rhetoric

Beck compares Fox News to Jews during the Holocaust, other news organizations to silent bystanders. On his October 13, 2009, radio show, Beck said: "When they're done with Fox, and you decide to speak out on something. The old, 'first they came for the Jews, and I wasn't Jewish.' When you have a question, and you believe that something should be asked, they're a -- totally fine with you right now; they have no problem with you. When they're done with Fox and talk radio, do you really think they're going to leave you alone if you want to ask a tough question? Do you really think that a man who has never had to stand against tough questions and has as much power as he does -- do you really believe after he takes out the number one news network, do you really think that this man is then not going to turn on you? That you and your little organization is going to cause him any hesitation at all not to take you out?"

Beck: "Just pray for protection, please." On his radio show, Beck told his listeners he is "fighting for you and ... your children" and asked them to "pray" for "safety" and "protection." [Premiere Radio Networks' The Glenn Beck Program, 9/8/2009]

Beck: "I fear a Reichstag moment, a -- God forbid -- another 9-11, something that will turn this machine on." During an interview with Newsmax.com in which he discussed opposition to Obama's Federal Communication Commission policies, Beck said: "I fear an event. I fear a Reichstag moment, a -- God forbid -- another 9-11, something that will turn this machine on, and power will be seized and voices will be silenced. God help us all.''

Beck: "[Y]ou will have to shoot me in the forehead before you take away my gun" and "before I acquiesce and be silent." Beck warned "ACORN, GE, Obama, SEIU" were "awakening a sleeping giant, and I have nothing to do with it," adding:

BECK: America is waking up. You know the American Revolution took place with 12 percent of the population? Twelve. Are you telling me there is not 30 percent of this population that you will have to shoot me in the forehead before I let somebody into my house to tell me how to raise my children; you will have to shoot me in the forehead before you take away my gun; you will have to shoot me in the forehead before I acquiesce and be silent. [The Glenn Beck Program, 7/31/2009]

Beck: "This game is for keeps"; "[Y]ou can shoot me in the head ... but there will be 10 others that line up." Asking his audience to "pray for protection," Beck claimed that "the most powerful people on the planet on the left" were "not going to go away easy" because "[t]his game is for keeps. This is who controls the United States of America and its destiny." He went on to state, "Just pray for protection, please." Beck subsequently stated:

BECK: You can try to put the lid on this group of people, but you will never silence us. You will never -- you can shoot me in the head, you can shoot the next guy in the head, but there will be 10 others that line up. And it may not happen today, it may not happen next week, but freedom will be restored in this land. Period. And no matter what you want to call it, it is a totalitarian state that you're headed towards. [The Glenn Beck Program, 9/8/2009]

Beck pours gasoline on "average American," asks, "President Obama, why don't you just set us on fire?" Beck claimed to be imitating Obama while pouring liquid from a gasoline can -- which he later stated was water -- on an "average American." Beck said during his demonstration: "President Obama, why don't you just set us on fire? ... We didn't vote to lose the republic." [Fox News' Glenn Beck, 4/9/2009]

Beck: "There is a coup going on. There is a stealing of America": "God help us in an emergency." Beck stated that "there is a revolution, and they think they can get away with it quietly." Beck further claimed, "At this point, gang, I'm not sure, they may be able to because they are so far ahead of us. They know what they're dealing against; most of America does not yet. Most of America doesn't have a clue as to what's going on. There is a coup going on. There is a stealing of America, and the way it is done, it has been done through the -- the guise of an election, but they lied to us the entire time." He also said, "And they're gonna say, 'we did it democratically,' and they are going to grab power every way they can. And God help us in an emergency." [The Glenn Beck Program, 7/31/2009]

Beck portrays Obama, Democrats as vampires, suggests "driv[ing] a stake through the heart of the bloodsuckers." Beck aired a graphic portraying Obama and Democrats as vampires and said, "The government is full of vampires, and they are trying to suck the lifeblood out of the economy." Beck then suggested "driv[ing] a stake through the heart of the bloodsuckers." [Fox News' Glenn Beck, 3/30/2009]
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Re: My goodness! This Glenn Beck guy

Postby sunny » Mon Jan 25, 2010 3:32 pm

I'm telling ya'll, it's on. "THEY" are now quite literally after us in a very real sense. It's been coming a long time, but the hate, the willful and even proud ignorance, the violent rhetoric, is reaching critical mass right now and they are out for blood.

I honestly hate to be a doomsayer but I feel this way to my bones.
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Re: My goodness! This Glenn Beck guy

Postby 82_28 » Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:27 pm

Here's Dave Niewert's write up about the program on Crooks and Liars. There are so many links in it, I'm just going to supply the link. Comments are always good on threads of that nature over there, so maybe read those too -- to get a feeling for the pulse of us "reality dwellers".

http://crooksandliars.com/node/34480

Here, however, is an excerpt of an excerpt at the above link:
For those who watched Beck's "special," the following excerpt from Paxton's piece alone may suffice:

Goldberg simply omits those parts of fascist history that fit badly with his demonstration. His method is to examine fascist rhetoric, but to ignore how fascist movements functioned in practice. Since the Nazis recruited their first mass following among the economic and social losers of Weimar Germany, they could sound anti-capitalist at the beginning. Goldberg makes a big thing of the early programs of the Nazi and Italian Fascist Parties, and publishes the Nazi Twenty-five Points as an appendix. A closer look would show that the Nazis’ anti-capitalism was a selective affair, opposed to international capital and finance capital, department stores and Jewish businesses, but nowhere opposed to private property per se or favorable to a transfer of all the means of production to public ownership.

A still closer look at how the fascist parties obtained power and then exercised power would show how little these early programs corresponded to fascist practice. Mussolini acquired powerful backing by hiring his black-shirted squadristi out to property owners for the destruction of socialist and Communist unions and parties. They destroyed the farm workers’ organizations in the Po Valley in 1921-1922 by violent nightly raids that made them the de facto government of northeastern Italy. Hitler’s brownshirts fought Communists for control of the streets of Berlin, and claimed to be Germany’s best bulwark against the revolutionary threat that still appeared to be growing in 1932. Goldberg prefers the abstractions of rhetoric to all this history, noting only that fascism and Communism were “rivals.” So his readers will not learn anything about how the Nazis and Italian Fascists got into power or exercised it.

The two fascist chiefs obtained power not by election nor by coup but by invitation from German President Hindenberg and his advisors, and Italian King Victor Emanuel III and his advisors (not a leftist among them). The two heads of state wanted to harness the fascists’ numbers and energy to their own project of blocking the Marxists, if possible with broad popular support. This does not mean that fascism and conservatism are identical (they are not), but they have historically found essential interests in common.

Once in power, the two fascist chieftains worked out a fruitful if sometimes contentious relationship with business. German business had been, as Goldberg correctly notes, distrustful of the early Hitler’s populist rhetoric. Hitler was certainly not their first choice as head of state, and many of them preferred a trading economy to an autarcic one. Given their real-life options in 1933, however, the Nazi regulated economy seemed a lesser evil than the economic depression and worker intransigence they had known under Weimar. They were delighted with Hitler’s abolition of independent labor unions and the right to strike (unmentioned by Goldberg), and profited greatly from his rearmament drive. All of them would have found ludicrous the notion that the Nazis, once in power, were on the left. So would the socialist and communist leaders who were the first inhabitants of the Nazi concentration camps (unmentioned by Goldberg).


Lots of good links over there. So go check it out. I'm gonna be reading most if not all of them here in a sec. I really need to get better at debating these people in real life.
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Re: My goodness! This Glenn Beck guy

Postby 82_28 » Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:46 pm

Here's another good link. It is the introduction to Neiwert's new book The Eliminationists: How Hate Talk Radicalized the American Right. Looks like, just published today as well.

http://www.hnn.us/articles/122469.html

It has now been just a little over two years since the release of Jonah Goldberg’s Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning. Despite its provocative title and thesis – and particularly its open challenge to the established historical assessment of the nature of fascism among academics – it was greeted largely with silence among those academic historians and political scientists.

Few spoke out, as Roger Griffin suggests, because they recognized that Goldberg’s book was more of an exercise in polemics than a historical work, and as such not really appropriate for academic consideration. Its use of history was so shoddy and propagandistic, and its claims so frankly absurd, that very few of them considered it worth taking seriously.

And yet, here we are two years later, and it turns out that many people indeed have taken Goldberg’s book seriously. Not only was Liberal Fascism a national bestseller, but its core thesis – that, "properly understood, fascism is not a phenomenon of the right at all. Instead, it is, and always has been, a phenomenon of the left” – has become widely accepted conventional wisdom among American conservatives, and has played a significant role in the national discourse. Along the way, it morphed into the claim that the agenda of Democratic liberals, and particularly President Obama, was an innately fascist attempt to impose a totalitarian state, something Goldberg himself only intimated in the book, though he later confirmed it in a National Review article.

Nowhere is this more evident than at gatherings of the Tea Party movement, the right-wing populist phenomenon that has sprung up in opposition to the policies for which Barack Obama was elected president. It is common at Tea Party rallies to see signs equating Obama with Hitler, and declaring the current regime “fascist.”

Similarly, Goldberg’s thesis has become the running theme for Glenn Beck’s wildly popular Fox News program, in which Beck regularly insists that Obama is secretly a radical fascist (or Marxist, or socialist, or Communist, depending on that day’s flavor), and that the progressive movement – dating back to Woodrow Wilson – not only is at the root of all the nation’s miseries, but represents a concerted effort to remake America as a totalitarian state. Beck has regularly equated fascism with progressivism, a claim central to Goldberg’s book. And indeed, Goldberg himself has appeared on Beck’s show numerous times to promote these claims.

Beck is hardly alone in this regard. At various times, such right-wing pundits as Rush Limbaugh (for whom the claim was actually old hat), Sean Hannity, and Michael Savage have promoted the “liberal fascism” thesis as well.
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What's most noteworthy, perhaps, about this episode is the way Goldberg's thesis was used to attack anyone who pointed out the frequently violent and intimidating behavior of the extremists who increasingly populated the ranks of the Tea Party movement. It wasn’t the right-wing protesters openly carrying weapons, Obama=Hitler signs, and loudly disrupting the discussion of health-care reform at town-hall sessions who were behaving like Brownshirts, they insisted – it was the liberals who showed enough nerve to stand up to them.

This absorption of the "liberal fascism" thesis dangerously distorts the public discourse precisely because, like so many other components of right-wing belief systems, it’s fundamentally untrue. As the four essays that follow make thoroughly clear, the historical record itself unequivocally repudiates Goldberg's thesis. As such, Liberal Fascism has distorted and polluted the public’s understanding of the nature of fascism, nearly to the point of rendering the word essentially meaningless.
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Re: My goodness! This Glenn Beck guy

Postby 82_28 » Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:40 pm

From another story RE that Colorado Dump thread I made, here is a choice comment left on one of the comment boards:

TheSamma: You are a typical liberal idiot. The Nazis were very left wing. It is true they hated the communists, but they advanced the same arguments, total government control, brain washing the people with propaganda, the censoring of free speech and murdering people they disagree with by the millions. Sounds like the Obama's and the rest of the Hitler Youth of Reid, Pelosi Gore and Biden with the mass murders, yet.


So, do we worry about these people or will they go away? The lack of comprehension of current events, history and wholesale whoring of themselves for the charlatanry of authority is quite concerning. Because it is clear that the authorities they bow to are fully aware they are lying -- but do it anyway. Goodness, goodness me!
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Re: My goodness! This Glenn Beck guy

Postby sunny » Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:06 pm

They are not going away.
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Re: My goodness! This Glenn Beck guy

Postby 82_28 » Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:22 am

Glenn Beck: America's #2 most favorite TV personality according to poll. Yup yup.

http://www.thrfeed.com/2010/01/letterma ... -no-2.html

New to the poll: Fox News personality Glenn Beck, who debuted at No. 2, while Bill O'Reilly returned to No. 10 after a one-year absence from the list. Liberal host Jon Stewart of "The Daily Show" was in the middle, holding steady at No. 6.
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Re: My goodness! This Glenn Beck guy

Postby Nordic » Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:47 am

Wow, the guy is literally The Anti Truth. The Great Liar.

I'm just slack-jawed here .......

What's so weird is that ignorant people will actually believe this. Why? Because they're ignorant. It's the "nature abhors a vacuum" law clearly at work.

This is what happens when you have a large percentage of the population with no education. People like Beck can fill in the gaps.

It's like Howard Zinn turned 180 degrees on its head.

I can't help but think that the entire Powers That Be crowd is goading us. Seeing how much we'll take. When do we snap? When does somebody just kill Rush, or Beck, or Hannity? Why hasn't it happened yet? Is it deliberate, and when it does happen (as it seems inevitable) is it that we've taken their bait? Is that when they crack down? Or is that when they back off finally?

Personally I think that's when they back off. I've always seen these people as nothing but bullies, and they will push push push until somebody pushes back. Then they'll run away screaming "HE HIT ME!"

Why don't we hit back? How much of this are we supposed to take?

In so many instances in my life, I've watched as smart, otherwise well-meaning people simply do NOT speak up in the face of assholery. I mean blatant assholery, in-your-face nastiness, so many people just fall mute and avert their eyes and try to pretend it's not happening. Why?

That is HOW evil takes over the world.

Which brings me to something I thought of earlier today -- where are all those protestors, the ones who ran wild in the streets and got themselves gassed and peppersprayed during WTO conferences and the like? Where are all those people, who seem really ballsy, and why are they not protesting, every day, at the Goldman Sachs building, and at wherever nasty puss-filled office building that Glenn Beck walks into every day?

WTF?

Or was that all bullshit? Were the WTO protests all 100% provocateur stuff?

I do not understand my fellow man any more. Not one bit. Americans are like those Jews getting into the cattle cars without a whimper. "Yes, sir, sure wouldn't want to break the law, sir. Just tell me where to go, sir. Please, whatever you do, do NOT let this affect my credit score!".

What the fucking fuck?
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Re: My goodness! This Glenn Beck guy

Postby 82_28 » Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:22 am

Or was that all bullshit? Were the WTO protests all 100% provocateur stuff?


The WTO thing happened a few months after I had moved to Seattle. I lived close enough to walk down and check it out. Politically, I was neither here nor there back then. It just seemed fun to do.

My impression though: yes 100% instigated by provocateurs -- you could essentially see it in their eyes, who was bad and who was there for the purpose of life. Nobody understood what was happening -- it was mostly a happy demonstration et al. Unions marched, various other groups marched. Lots of drums playing, music, puppets, etc. Then the robocops started doing some sort of weird funneling of the march to one city block, they were totally moving in, you could see it. Since I didn't have a horse in the race, me and my girlfriend beat it. We missed the gassing by probably 20 minutes.

ON EDIT:

It got scary tense. It got kinda quiet in fact. People with no way out. It was like people began quieting down as they awaited the police response -- like an abusive dad coming home. They fully herded everybody into one spot. I think many people's subconscious intuition knew what was coming, but stayed, because they were basically zealots. I don't know what it is about my "sixth sense", but I knew, it was time to GTFO -- and we got out just in time. Just reminiscing actually. Hadn't thought about it in awhile.
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