Strange objects around the sun?

[alwyn]

here's link to the 2048x2048 version...
http://stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov/browse/2010/01/18/behind/euvi/195/2048/20100118_053530_n7euB_195.jpg

the "objects" are not seen in the pic 10 minutes before or 10 minutes after.

but... If they are "behind" (further away) the sun, this reflectivity would be possible...
like this:


Maybe it's something, maybe it's just imaging artifacts.

Yes! We cross posted, JD. This is what I meant.

[justdrew]

[monster]

Another one:

[justdrew]

that is weird. solar engineering heliosats?

I wonder why they seem to only appear near the edges and not in the disk of the sun itself, and why they're not seen on the immediately preceding and following pictures, taken every ten minutes? I wonder how long the exposure is on these cameras?

[Sepka]

Is the camera situated earth side? Because if it is, then it really is the right position for mercury and venus.

These are coming from STEREO A & B - they're a matched pair of solar observatories in a similar orbit to that of the earth, but leading and trailing us by about 65 degrees or so. A leads, B trails. http://stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov/where.shtml has information on the current positions of the STEREO pair.

I have problems seeing these as real objects partly because of the lighting, but more because of the patterning that appears around them. I don't know enough about STEREO's imaging system and software to dismiss them, but my initial impression is imaging artifacts. The software with documentation is available at http://stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov/software.shtml - go to Secchi analysis software. Useful tips for data extraction are available at http://secchi.nrl.navy.mil/wiki/pmwiki. ... ndAnalysis. It's beyond my level of competence, but your mileage may vary.

These images are coming from the EUVI imager, and represent extreme shortwave ultraviolet, being emitted by hydrogen around 1.4 million K. As a general rule, when you get into the shorter wavelengths, reflectivity drop offs pretty sharply for most materials, so it's not beyond belief that the reflections at those wavelengths would be very different than what we'd expect from our experiences with visible light.

If they *are* real (and 'real' in this context could also include anomalous cold spots in the corona, rather than physical objects), then they're very large indeed. This weasel's betting on imaging artifacts, though. Still, they're interesting.

[smoking since 1879]

hmm... on a quick examination of the images, all look about the same size.

certainly not a lens aberration, else they would be on every image... liquid coolant contamination of the instrument perhaps?

I didn;t read the instrument specs, I'm assuming they're beyond "my level of competence" (being just a curious but dumb monkey).

Also... I'd have thought that nasa / soho guys would have edited them out already if they had any suspicion that they were untoward.

Unless this is some sort of orchestrated slow release of the "truth".

so, hmm, pick the bones out of that fellow rigintonauts

xx

[monster]

I wonder why they seem to only appear near the edges and not in the disk of the sun itself

Right, there's no reason they shouldn't appear between the camera and the sun... unless their shields bend the light around them from that angle so they're invisible

Here's another one, with a nice clear sphere closer to the sun:



It's weird, some are distorted and some are really clear. Even the distortions look like they have a ball bearing in the middle, though.

Also, take a look at this anomaly from 10 years ago.

[freemason9]

Likely: Image artifacts.
Unlikely: Alien spacecraft.

Fire away!

[Joe Hillshoist]

Another one:

Dunno why but for some reason that looks sus.

Like the three objects are the same image repeated.

With the pic cuda referred to earlier, (the 3rd reply I think) that object looks almost like a blurry square shape with a small light square, and what he called the lighting effect looks like a smaller cube 1/4 the size, to me anyway, but ... it could also look like a black triangle, without energy source or light source or muthafrackin great afterburner (imagine the scale tho, humungous - the "afterburner" flame thing would be bigger than australia possibly the size of the pacific ocean....)



Some of the other images look spherical but that one struck me as square looking.

I'm inclined to agree with sepka and cuda and others (hi sepka hope you are well).

the lighting just doesn't seem right for them to be objects in the spot they appear to be. At least in most of the images, some look alot more likely than others tho.

here's link to the 2048x2048 version...
http://stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov/browse/2010/01/18/behind/euvi/195/2048/20100118_053530_n7euB_195.jpg

the "objects" are not seen in the pic 10 minutes before or 10 minutes after.

but... If they are "behind" (further away) the sun, this reflectivity would be possible...
like this:


Maybe it's something, maybe it's just imaging artifacts.

In that image it looks like both objects seem to be illuminated from the same source but to me it doesn't seem in the correct spot to be from the sun. then again it does seem like the corona in that image is extending itself to encompass those objects. I dunno.


I remember when that anomaly from 10 years ago happened Monster... I'd forgotten about it tho, cheers.

Some of the stuff Kent(from that site) found was spun out, some was just imaging artifacts. Still dunno what to make of that one tho. If someone knows how it could be an imaging issue please speak up.

He was a weird one the guy that ran that site. (Well he seemed that way I never met him.)

[Iroquois]

All of the objects that are in the same frame seem to have perfectly parallel shadows. They are not in a radial pattern that would result if they were all in different positions near a single light source. And, as Joe and barracuda also noted, the shadows on even singular objects are in the wrong position for the sun to be their light sources regardless of how far back they are.

Whatever these are, they are not big objects near the sun.

[DeltaDawn]

Scuse for boldness, but Iroquois, do I know u from another site like CT??? Even so, Gbu and glad to cya, and if not, good to meet you!!!

[Jeff]

It's hard to take a thread seriously where the video you referenced linked to God Like Productions, Monster.

Then you know what? Get the fuck out of the goddamned thread, you fucking troll.

Please refrain from directing obscenities towards other board members

monster, that response was uncalled for.

And not only that, alwyn makes a good point.

[82_28]

Fairly stupid. But more imagery and "enhancement":



And nothing *probably* to take too seriously (albeit we live on a planet containing a certain idiot and popular Glenn Beck after all), but this link is seeming to literally tackle all of the literally taken errata by GLP types. Could be mined for some idea of what's going on though. . .

http://gazbom.blogspot.com/2010/01/nasa ... rical.html

According to the link: "NASA are now blocking out images and many SOHO links have stopped working". Dunno if that's true or not. But there you have it.

[82_28]

There do appear to be dark objects (artifacts) in front of the Sun in NASA's final image a couple of days ago however.



Gotta be artifacts of imagery and/or data transmission. Would be interested to hear the final word from the scientists and engineers responsible for this project though.

[Iroquois]

DeltaDawn, this is the only forum of this type I participate on and the only I do so as Iroquois. it's good to meet you too.