Breaking - First ever female rampage killing?

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Postby Nordic » Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:50 pm

DoYouEverWonder wrote:
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Amy Bishop, Northeastern University, 1988

Wow, whoever gave her that doo is the one that should have been shot.


Oh, you're talking about tens of thousands of 80's hairstylsits.

If you want to see some really godawful hairstyles from then, just look for a re-run of "Full House".
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Re: Breaking - First ever female rampage killing?

Postby justdrew » Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:53 pm

I like the hair too, very Poly Styrene. If only I could go back in time, I'd intervene there

A husband named Mister Anderson? So she didn't change her name at the wedding? Fairly common these days I guess.
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Re: Breaking - First ever female rampage killing?

Postby Canadian_watcher » Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:54 pm

maybe it's just me, but Bishop's father-in-law seems very keen to defend this woman his son married.

If you read his words, every one of them is a defense of her.
I don't think that most people's natural parents would go that far in excusing their child's behaviour, making up a story that implied that Amy Bishop had confided in him about being stalked (but that she likely wouldn't have told her husband?) and that Huntsville isn't very friendly, and one of the professors who was shot was probably an antagonist??

Who ARE these Andersons, really?
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Re: Breaking - First ever female rampage killing?

Postby dbcooper41 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:59 pm

is she still only charged with 1 murder?
if so, does anyone know why? and which murder?

also, this D&D / shooter thing is weird.

http://news.bostonherald.com/news/regio ... _dungeons/

Suspect in slays fan of ‘Dungeons’
By Laurel J. Sweet
Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - Added 20h ago
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Accused campus killer Amy Bishop was a devotee of

Dungeons & Dragons - just like Michael “Mucko” McDermott,

the lone gunman behind the devastating workplace killings at

Edgewater Technology in Wakefield in 2000.

Bishop, now a University of Alabama professor, and her

husband James Anderson met and fell in love in a Dungeons &

Dragons club while biology students at Northeastern

University in the early 1980s, and were heavily into the

fantasy role-playing board game
, a source told the Herald.

“They even acted this crap out,” the source said.

When questioned about it yesterday, Anderson, 45, a research

scientist in Huntsville, Ala., dismissed the egghead escape

as “a passing interest. It was a social thing more than

anything else. It’s not the crazy group people think they

are.”

McDermott studied engineering at Northeastern in the late

1980s, but Anderson said he never met him. Police seized two

Dungeons & Dragons books from McDermott’s Haverhill

apartment after he shot seven co-workers to death on Dec.

26, 2000.

The popular fantasy role-playing game has a long history of

controversy, with objections raised to its demonic and

violent elements. Some experts have cited the D&D

backgrounds of people who were later involved in violent

crimes, while others say it just a game. A federal appeals

court recently upheld a prison ban on the game in Wisconsin,

where prison officials reportedly testified they were afraid

the game could promote “hostility, violence and escape

behavior.”

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if this is true:

the articles says they were "at Northeastern

University in the early 1980s, and were heavily into the

fantasy role-playing board game"

but we have a pic of amy at notheastern 1988.

Michael “Mucko” McDermott, killer of 7 coworkers "studied engineering at Northeastern in the late 1980s". does that suggests around 1988?

how many people could have been into D & D on that campus of ? many students?

2 people out of that fairly small group wound up shooting coworkers?

is this unusual?
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Re: Breaking - First ever female rampage killing?

Postby JackRiddler » Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:03 pm

Mr. Anderson's most devoted believer, Morpheus:
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Morpheus as Bishop (Assault on Precinct 13)
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Sorry, I just caught a bout of the Ian Eye. Carry on.

By the way, since they're so good at spotting the "D&D background" of alleged killers, imagine they were as assiduous about pointing it out whenever a killer turned out to have been conditioned by the armed cult known as the military. There'd be one or more EVERY DAY.

Sorry, obviously I'm a victim of "pattern recognition."
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Re: Breaking - First ever female rampage killing?

Postby justdrew » Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:04 pm

EARLY 80s? when did she start college at 13? Just some more sloppy reporting from ms sweet?

Suspect in slays fan of ‘Dungeons’
By Laurel J. Sweet

Bishop, now a University of Alabama professor, and her husband James Anderson met and fell in love in a Dungeons & Dragons club while biology students at Northeastern University in the early 1980s
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Re: Breaking - First ever female rampage killing?

Postby JackRiddler » Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:07 pm

So the case for a "D&D background" of McDermott is that he had two of the books in his apartment?! You mean, like several million other people? Hm. It's a good bet he also had Catcher in the Rye.
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Re: Breaking - First ever female rampage killing?

Postby dbcooper41 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:16 pm

So the case for a "D&D background" of McDermott is that he had two of the books in his apartment?! You mean, like several million other people? Hm. It's a good bet he also had Catcher in the Rye.


to me, the only "case" is that someone has brought us to this connection.
jim anderson has confirmed the d & d thing.
a "reputable" website has "confirmed" the McDermott d & d thing. (and by confirmed i only mean "made sure the masses believe")

any bets on what the buzz is tomorrow about this story?

so what is the real story here?
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Re: Breaking - First ever female rampage killing?

Postby DoYouEverWonder » Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:18 pm

Just over heard something on the news about a shooter on the campus of some college in Buffalo?

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Edit:

Feb 16, 2010
University of Buffalo locked down over possible gunman

http://content.usatoday.com/communities ... e-gunman/1
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Re: Breaking - First ever female rampage killing?

Postby JackRiddler » Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:49 am

Yet another (alleged) incident comes to light in the apparent timebomb existence of Prof. Bishop.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,586224,00.html

Alabama Professor Charged in Shooting Reportedly Charged With '02 Assault

Tuesday, February 16, 2010

PEABODY, Mass. — An Alabama professor accused of fatally shooting three colleagues last week had previously admitted in court to punching a woman in a tirade over a booster seat at a Massachusetts restaurant.

Citing a police report, WBZ-AM and The Boston Globe both reported Tuesday that Amy Bishop was charged with assault after the incident in 2002 at the International House of Pancakes in Peabody.

The police report says Bishop became incensed when she found out the other woman had received the restaurant's last booster seat. Bishop hit the woman and shouted multiple times, "I am Dr. Amy Bishop," the report says.

The Globe and WBZ say Bishop received probation for the incident.

Peabody police didn't immediately immediately return a call from the Associated Press seeking comment
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Re: Breaking - First ever female rampage killing?

Postby dbcooper41 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:25 am

this says 3 charges of attempted murder were added to the "initial charge of capital murder".
that makes 4 victims.

did that initial murder charge include 3 counts?

http://blog.al.com/breaking/2010/02/sun ... l_new.html

Bishop, a biology professor, was arrested on Friday in the
killing of three colleagues during a faculty meeting at the
University of Alabama in Huntsville. Three more were
wounded, two of them critically.

On Sunday, just after noon, three charges of attempted
murder were added to the initial charge of capital murder,

according to an officer at the Madison County metro jail,
where Bishop is being held without bond.
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Re: Breaking - First ever female rampage killing?

Postby aimdrained » Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:51 am

Amy Bishop's faculty page for UAH is still up as of this writing (early Tuesday morning) and, if you discount blog posts, image posts, and news posts, then you find that her page is the fifth most relevant search available on Google.

Its been five days since the shooting. This isn't making any sense.

If this really is a spook-op, then what's the purpose and motivation? We can't really be sure its a spook-op, afterall, if you looked at any crime case some kinds of inconsistencies would crop up. Heck, if we were all challenged to give a life history of ourselves there'd probably be all kinds of inconsistencies.

So the narrative seems to be going in the direction of "she just slipped through the cracks". But I know some of us here at Rig.Int. think differently, that she was allowed to pass through those cracks.

If she was allowed to slip through, time and time again, why?
Was she just that brilliant?
If the bungling of the earlier shooting incident wasn't really a bungling, if she was allowed to escape charges through the machinations of elite power, then why? She was a teenager, a brilliant one at that, but just a teenager. She hadn't contributed anything to her field yet.
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Re: Breaking - First ever female rampage killing?

Postby psynapz » Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:01 am

Boy it would be nice if people would edit their thread titles after assertions within them are proven false... no offense to OP.
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Re: Breaking - First ever female rampage killing?

Postby dbcooper41 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:19 am

this says 3 charges of attempted murder were added to the "initial charge of capital murder".
that makes 4 victims.

did that initial murder charge include 3 counts?


i think this answers my question about the charges.

http://blog.al.com/breaking/2010/02/uah ... nts-2.html

""Posted by Niki Doyle
February 16, 2010, 3:55PM
I might can help clarify, LucyHoney2. She was charged with
capital murder under item 10 in Section 13A-5-40 of the Code
of Alabama: "Murder wherein two or more persons are
murdered by the defendant by one act or pursuant to one
scheme or course of conduct."
If she had been charged with
murder, as opposed to capital murder, she would have
received three counts (one for each person). But capital
murder works differently -- It always involves multiple people,
state or federal employees, murder committed during the
commission of other crimes (like robbery or rape) or other
particularly heinous circumstances. Also, the punishment for
capital murder is either death or life in prison without parole, so
only one count is necessary."
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Re: Breaking - First ever female rampage killing?

Postby dbcooper41 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:29 am

here's a little more on her writing.
interesting topics. and recall that police earlier seized a manuscript about a girl who kills her brother and goes on to become a sccientist to make up for it.

http://www.patriotledger.com/news/cops_ ... and-tragic
By Dan Mac Alpine
GateHouse News Service
Posted Feb 16, 2010 @ 10:49 AM
Last update Feb 16, 2010 @ 10:59 AM
Ipswich — Amy Bishop gave only glimpses of a violent past and flashes of triple murder charges lying in her future, said a longtime friend who met

Bishop in local writer’s group 11 years ago.

Bishop lived in Ipswich, with her husband and children, at 28 Birch Lane from 1999 to 2003.

“The Amy I knew was impulsive, very sweet, very funny and very helpful,” said Hamilton resident Rob Dinsmoor, a freelance science writer and editor.

“I’m also learning a lot more about her. Things she never disclosed.”

Bishop, who has a doctorate with a specialty in molecular biology, is charged in the shooting deaths of three fellow professors at the University of

Alabama at Huntsville, Ala., over the weekend.

Dinsmoor said Bishop may have been upset at the prospect of not receiving tenure at the university.

Further investigation has connected Bishop to the 1986 shooting death of her brother, 18, in 1986 and a failed letter-bomb incident at Harvard

University in 1993 when she was a doctoral candidate there.

Bishop, whose parents still live in Ipswich, but aren’t talking to the media, was never charged in either incident.

During the years in which he knew the 45-year-old assistant professor, Dinsmoor said Bishop wrote three novels and multiple short stories.

One novel was about growing up in Belfast during Northern Ireland’s civil war; a second was about a female CIA operative; and the third was a science-fiction novel in which Bishop used her science expertise.

She was always very good at writing about violence,” said Dinsmoor.

At the same time she was pumping out novels and short stories, Bishop was conducting research into nerve-cell regeneration and into a computer built with living cells.

She had just started a fledgling company to further pursue her research and develop marketable products.

Dinsmoor also describes a woman who was willful and opinionated: “When she thought she was right, she wouldn’t back down.”

For all her imagination and brilliance, Bishop appears to have had trouble getting along with her Birch Lane neighbors, now hunkered down and hiding from the press camped out on their street.

In earlier interviews, before the media’s full-court press, neighbors had little nice to say about Bishop, and it appears Bishop had little nice to say about them when she lived in Ipswich.

“I got the impression it was an insular neighborhood,” said Dinsmoor. “She was always complaining about loudness and unruly kids. I got the idea from her they kind of ganged up on her. I got the sense she found them difficult to reason with.”

Ipswich Police report six incidents in which Bishop called them.

Five of the calls involved noise, mostly concerning neighborhood kids operating dirt bikes in their own yards.

One call involved a report of her children not coming home on time.

Despite violence erupting in her past, Bishop was never charged with a crime.

Braintree Police ruled Bishop’s brother’s death an accident, but a missing police report on the death has police in the town questioning the department’s handling of the investigation.

A police investigation into the letter bomb resulted in no charges.

Dinsmoor met Bishop in 1999 through the writer’s group and kept up a friendship with her and her family, husband James Anderson and their four children — three daughters and one son — ranging in age from preteen to 18.

“They are very nice, very fun kids. That’s what makes this all the more unsettling. I already sent a card to the family,” said Dinsmoor, who last contacted Bishop two weeks ago when she said she was upset about the prospect of not receiving tenure at the university.

“I think that was the main thing,” said Dinsmoor. “Not getting tenure at the University of Alabama was very big. She left for Alabama for the chance at a tenured position. There were also financial issues.”

However, Bishop’s research into the regeneration of damaged nerve cells and into a “living computer” had spawned a fledgling company backed by investors.

The company would likely have eased financial concerns and allowed her to continue her research, Dinsmoor said.

Bishop’s university Web page indicates she was researching the use of nitric oxide as a way jumpstart damaged nerve cells in the spinal cord, and also researching the use of neurons in computer construction.

“My laboratory’s goal will be to continue in our effort to develop a neural computer, the Neuristor, using living neurons,” writes Bishop on her Web page, which records she published three papers on her work in professional journals in 2009.

“She had a startup company she had investors in,” said Dinsmoor. “So she had a promising avenue that way. That’s why this is so surprising and tragic.”




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and please check out the story sidebar about her high school yearbook comments.
something in there seems very disturbing to me. does anyone else see anything strange?
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