Proof that 9/11 Truthers Are Dangerous

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Proof that 9/11 Truthers Are Dangerous

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Proof that 9/11 Truthers Are Dangerous

by Washington's Blog
March 8, 2010



Most Americans don't know what kind of people 9/11 truthers really are. So they can't figure out whether or not they are dangerous.

Below is a list of people who question what our Government has said about 9/11.

The list proves - once and for all - that people who question 9/11 are dangerous.

Email this list to everyone you know, to prove to them that 9/11 truthers are all dangerous nut cases.

Senior intelligence officers:


Former military analyst and famed whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg said that the case of a certain 9/11 whistleblower is "far more explosive than the Pentagon Papers". He also said that the government is ordering the media to cover up her allegations about 9/11. And he said that some of the claims concerning government involvement in 9/11 are credible, that "very serious questions have been raised about what they [U.S. government officials] knew beforehand and how much involvement there might have been", that engineering 9/11 would not be humanly or psychologically beyond the scope of the current administration, and that there's enough evidence to justify a new, "hard-hitting" investigation into 9/11 with subpoenas and testimony taken under oath (see this and this).

A 27-year CIA veteran, who chaired National Intelligence Estimates and personally delivered intelligence briefings to Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush, their Vice Presidents, Secretaries of State, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and many other senior government officials (Raymond McGovern) said “I think at simplest terms, there’s a cover-up. The 9/11 Report is a joke”, and is open to the possibility that 9/11 was an inside job.

A 29-year CIA veteran, former National Intelligence Officer (NIO) and former Director of the CIA's Office of Regional and Political Analysis (William Bill Christison) said “I now think there is persuasive evidence that the events of September did not unfold as the Bush administration and the 9/11 Commission would have us believe. ... All three [buildings that were destroyed in the World Trade Center] were most probably destroyed by controlled demolition charges placed in the buildings before 9/11." (and seethis).

A number of intelligence officials, including a CIA Operations Officer who co-chaired a CIA multi-agency task force coordinating intelligence efforts among many intelligence and law enforcement agencies (Lynne Larkin) sent a joint letter to Congress expressing their concerns about “serious shortcomings,” “omissions,” and “major flaws” in the 9/11 Commission Report and offering their services for a new investigation (they were ignored)

20-year Marine Corps infantry and intelligence officer, the second-ranking civilian in U.S. Marine Corps Intelligence, and former CIA clandestine services case officer (David Steele) stated that "9/11 was at a minimum allowed to happen as a pretext for war", and it was probably an inside job (scroll down to Customer Review dated October 7, 2006).

A decorated 20-year CIA veteran, who Pulitzer-Prize winning investigative reporter Seymour Hersh called "perhaps the best on-the-ground field officer in the Middle East”, and whose astounding career formed the script for the Academy Award winning motion picture Syriana (Robert Baer) said that "the evidence points at" 9/11 having had aspects of being an inside job.

The Division Chief of the CIA’s Office of Soviet Affairs, who served as Senior Analyst from 1966 - 1990. He also served as Professor of International Security at the National War College from 1986 - 2004 (Melvin Goodman) said "The final [9/11 Commission] report is ultimately a coverup."

Professor of History and International Relations, University of Maryland. Former Executive Assistant to the Director of the National Security Agency, former military attaché in China, with a 21-year career in U.S. Army Intelligence (Major John M. Newman, PhD, U.S. Army) questions the government's version of the events of 9/11.

Congressmen:

According to the Co-Chair of the Congressional Inquiry into 9/11 and former Head of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Bob Graham, an FBI informant had hosted and rented a room to two hijackers in 2000 and that, when the Inquiry sought to interview the informant, the FBI refused outright, and then hid him in an unknown location, and that a high-level FBI official stated these blocking maneuvers were undertaken under orders from the White House (confirmed here)

Current Democratic U.S. Senator Patrick Leahy said "The two questions that the congress will not ask . . . is why did 9/11 happen on George Bush's watch when he had clear warnings that it was going to happen? Why did they allow it to happen?"

Current Republican Congressman Ron Paul calls for a new 9/11 investigationand states that "we see the [9/11] investigations that have been done so far as more or less cover-up and no real explanation of what went on"

Current Democratic Congressman Dennis Kucinich hints that we aren't being told the truth about 9/11

Current Republican Congressman Jason Chafetz says that we need to be vigilant and continue to investigate 9/11

Former Democratic Senator Mike Gravel states that he supports a new 9/11 investigation and that we don't know the truth about 9/11

Former Republican Senator Lincoln Chaffee endorses a new 9/11 investigation

Former U.S. Democratic Congressman Dan Hamburg says that the U.S. government "assisted" in the 9/11 attacks, stating that "I think there was a lot of help from the inside"

Former U.S. Republican Congressman and senior member of the House Armed Services Committee, and who served six years as the Chairman of the Military Research and Development Subcommittee Curt Weldon has shown that the U.S. tracked hijackers before 9/11, is open to hearing information about explosives in the Twin Towers, and is open to the possibility that 9/11 was an inside job

9/11 Commissioners:

The Commission's co-chairs said that the 9/11 Commissioners knew that military officials misrepresented the facts to the Commission, and the Commission considered recommending criminal charges for such false statements (free subscription required)

9/11 Commission co-chair Lee Hamilton says "I don't believe for a minute we got everything right", that the Commission was set up to fail, that people should keep asking questions about 9/11, and that the 9/11 debate should continue

9/11 Commissioner Timothy Roemer said "We were extremely frustrated with the false statements we were getting"

9/11 Commissioner Max Cleland resigned from the Commission, stating: "It is a national scandal"; "This investigation is now compromised"; and "One of these days we will have to get the full story because the 9-11 issue is so important to America. But this White House wants to cover it up"

9/11 Commissioner Bob Kerrey said that "There are ample reasons to suspect that there may be some alternative to what we outlined in our version . . . We didn't have access . . . ."

And the Senior Counsel to the 9/11 Commission (John Farmer) - who led the 9/11 staff's inquiry - recently said "At some level of the government, at some point in time...there was an agreement not to tell the truth about what happened". He also said "I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described .... The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years.... This is not spin. This is not true."

Other government officials:

U.S. General, Commanding General of U.S. European Command and Supreme Allied Commander Europe, decorated with the Bronze Star, Silver Star, and Purple Heart (General Wesley Clark) said "We've never finished the investigation of 9/11 and whether the administration actually misused the intelligence information it had. The evidence seems pretty clear to me. I've seen that for a long time."

Former Deputy Secretary for Intelligence and Warning under Nixon, Ford, and Carter (Morton Goulder), former Deputy Director to the White House Task Force on Terrorism (Edward L. Peck), and former US Department of State Foreign Service Officer (J. Michael Springmann), as well as a who's who of liberals and independents) jointly call for a new investigation into 9/11

Former Federal Prosecutor, Office of Special Investigations, U.S. Department of Justice under Presidents Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan; former U.S. Army Intelligence officer, and currently a widely-sought media commentator on terrorism and intelligence services (John Loftus) says "The information provided by European intelligence services prior to 9/11 was so extensive that it is no longer possible for either the CIA or FBI to assert a defense of incompetence."

The Group Director on matters of national security in the U.S. Government Accountability Office said that President Bush did not respond to unprecedented warnings of the 9/11 disaster and conducted a massive cover-up instead of accepting responsibility

President of the U.S. Air Force Accident Investigation Board, who also served as Pentagon Weapons Requirement Officer and as a member of the Pentagon's Quadrennial Defense Review, and who was awarded Distinguished Flying Crosses for Heroism, four Air Medals, four Meritorious Service Medals, and nine Aerial Achievement Medals (Lt. Col. Jeff Latas) is a member of a group which doubts the government's version of 9/11

Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense under President Ronald Reagan (Col. Ronald D. Ray) said that the official story of 9/11 is "the dog that doesn't hunt"

The former director of the FBI (Louis Freeh) says there was a cover up by the 9/11 Commission

Director of the U.S. "Star Wars" space defense program in both Republican and Democratic administrations, who was a senior air force colonel who flew 101 combat missions (Col. Robert Bowman) stated: "If our government had merely [done] nothing, and I say that as an old interceptor pilot—I know the drill, I know what it takes, I know how long it takes, I know what the procedures are, I know what they were, and I know what they’ve changed them to—if our government had merely done nothing, and allowed normal procedures to happen on that morning of 9/11, the Twin Towers would still be standing and thousands of dead Americans would still be alive. [T]hat is treason!"

Numerous other politicians, judges, legal scholars, and attorneys also question at least some aspects of the government's version of 9/11.

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Re: Proof that 9/11 Truthers Are Dangerous

Postby 82_28 » Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:04 am

It is clear they are floating a boat who's hull is made of "tea party" people on which they are hoping the so called liberals get on and ride, as though something of a Vegas attraction. The point of it all is to throw everything into a "dull roar" of disarray as the full on bullXXXt begins to get underway.

Think Vegas. A fXXking "conservative's" wet dream. An immoral aXXhole conservative's wet dream. A world where there are no longer any progressives, but call themselves "progressive", progressively become more craven and selfish and believe in hope and such. "Progressives", Obama "liberals" have claimed the banner of the "fun havers". The moron fuXXs who threatened us in the their pickups and SUVS nearly ten years ago as we idiotically plead for cooler heads have now become the vector on which hope addicts get their smack and their easily toppleable egos. Both "sides" think they are better than the other side of things. 'Cept there aint no sides.

As shit has progressively come to this head, I find myself "siding" with the idiots on the right more and more. And only because there truly is but one, single, solitary "party". I do gravitate to the side of anger. But the Glenn Becks and such are there, CLEARLY to vanilla-ize the whole thing. False positives of idiot liberals, in order to weed out the motherfXXXers who know what is going on. They hope we drift quietly into the night, it would seem. But this shit is going to escalate.

But here's the thing. There are no longer any smart people in the USA -- not of any clout. Those, who heretofore would have been considered smart, even intuitive, have been driven into a media frenzied neurosis, blaming ourselves, hoping for change.

What goXXamn motherfXXXing bullXXXt.

This isn't even a "plan" anymore that can be fought or legislated. It is soooo underway. It does make my head spin.

The hidden leadership of this country, yes, Brazil style, is coming for us. And only, ONLY, out of pure banal bureaucracy.

And then some. . .
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Re: Proof that 9/11 Truthers Are Dangerous

Postby Username » Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:15 am

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Nightline had a piece about 9-11 truthers this evening. I didn't get to watch it, but they promise to embed the segment in the am. Coincidentally, Southpark aired their 9-11 truther episode tonight, as well.

Inside a 9/11 'Truther' Convention

March 08, 2010

Chris Bury and producer Katie Hinman did just that this weekend -- attending a convention in Valley Forge, Pennsylvania, alongside hundreds who share a collective distrust of the official explanation for the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.

As they will report tonight, the attendees come from several different viewpoints, knitted together in this "movement" largely online.

We talk to conference organizer Betsy Metz, who tells us there is "absolutely a cover-up," and the producers of "Loose Change" a conspiracy theorist film that is among the most downloaded videos in Google history.

Our presence was met, as you will see in tonight's segment, with some resistance. For obvious reasons, the "truther" movement has clashed with many in the mainstream media.

John Patrick Bedell, the gunman killed in last week's Pentagon shooting, had previously posted comments online that questioned what really happened in 2001. Those at the convention disavowed Bedell's act of violence.

The picture above is one of several photos recently released by the New York City Police Department. You can see a full slideshow HERE.

Will embed the segment in the morning.


Selected comments:

I didn't realize links were deleted.

Look up Washingtonsblog, the Proof that 011 truthers are dangerous article.

Posted by: Tom | Mar 8, 2010 8:10:57 PM


Which led to the op.


The hundreds of people who showed up at the convention were representative of MILLIONS of Americans and people around the world who realize that the official story of 9/11 stinks to high heaven. From the demolition of all THREE buildings at the World Trade Center to the lack of large scale wreckage of any airliner debris at the Pentagon, to the same strange lack of wreckage in Shanksville PA, the official story of 9/11 is a farce at all levels. If you're near a Barnes and Noble or Borders store, please do yourself a favor, pick up a copy of \"New Pearl Harbor Revisited\" by David Ray Griffin, and take it to the cafe and start reading it. I guarantee you'll end up buying it because he demolishes, in a very thorough and scholarly fashion, the official story of 9/11. Also read "The Mysterious Collapse of World Trade Center 7" by the same author.

Over 1100 architectural and engineering professionals have signed the petition at Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth (ae911truth.org), rejecting the official explanation of the WTC collapse and demanding of congress a truly independent investigation.

Not just architects and engineers either; there are lawyers, firefighters, intelligence officers, former Asst. Secretaries of the Treasury, pilots, air traffic controllers, veterans, and many more who have united via the internet to oppose the Big Lie which is the official story.

Of course, the casual citizen might not be aware of these numerous groups because the mainstream media doesn't mention them. No, they only seem to mention the mentally unstable violent people like the Pentagon shooter, or when the person is the leader of an "enemy country."

Chris Bury, the reporter for ABC, was attempting to link the 9/11 truth movement with the Pentagon shooter; he insisted when speaking to the Loose Change boys that "no one can keep a secret in Washington; someone would have talked by now." He was completely oblivious to the fact that there was an FBI WHISTLEBLOWER IN THAT VERY ROOM THAT HE COULD HAVE INTERVIEWED!!! He also turned his nose up at an opportunity to interview a 9/11 family member, Bob McIlvaine. His only purpose there was to try and discredit two filmmakers as young and naive with no expertise. Shameful. Fortunately, the whole UNCUT interview has been youtubed for posterity.

Investigate 9/11!!!

9/11 Truth NOW!

Posted by: adam syed | Mar 8, 2010 8:23:48 PM


Youtube, eh? ok




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on edit: Jebus 82, I'm shocked at the language already. You only have 24 hours to clean that mess up.
Where's you're humor, son?

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Re: Proof that 9/11 Truthers Are Dangerous

Postby 82_28 » Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:42 am

on edit: jebus 82, I'm shocked at the language there. calm down boy.


Hahaha. Sorry. I was gonna apologize for the "french". Often, sadly, that is the way I talk and write. I am calm. But no better words can be employed sometimes.

My dad used to tell me not to swear so much and I told him I could swear in another "motherfucking" language and you wouldn't even know I was swearing.

But yes. The topic of this post pissed me off. I hope you can peer through my profanity and grant me a little righteous anger.

Sorry to all. I do happen to swear a lot.
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Re: Proof that 9/11 Truthers Are Dangerous

Postby 82_28 » Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:50 am

You only have 24 hours to clean that mess up.
Where's you're humor, son?


What does that mean? Should I nix all that outta there? Pretend that I didn't write it, as eloquent as it was? I don't care if my words get deleted or not. That's what I wrote. Anger was present. I swear everytime I possibly can in life. It makes me feel better. But shit am I not pissed for you bringing it up.

I do feel bad. But also, where's your humor?

Now this feels really stupid upon becoming so cerebral with my use of language.

I'll tone it down.
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Re: Proof that 9/11 Truthers Are Dangerous

Postby Username » Tue Mar 09, 2010 7:13 am

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I'm just playing with you 82.

Sorry I changed my edit. We've been cross posting a bit tonight.

Let it all out, just don't forget to laugh at the fuckers. It's about all we have left.

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oh heck...you Xed it all out!

I'm sorry 82, I wasn't expecting to be taken seriously, though I was kind of hoping to cheer you up, maybe.
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Re: Proof that 9/11 Truthers Are Dangerous

Postby 82_28 » Tue Mar 09, 2010 7:23 am

Username wrote:~
I'm just playing with you 82.

Sorry I changed my edit. We've been cross posting a bit tonight.

Let it all out, just don't forget to laugh at the fuckers. It's about all we have left.

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Hahaha. Cool. I was hoping to figure that was what it was. But then I saw your little font admonition. The rest be history.

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Re: Proof that 9/11 Truthers Are Dangerous

Postby Username » Tue Mar 09, 2010 2:51 pm

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Username wrote:Nightline had a piece about 9-11 truthers this evening. I didn't get to watch it, but they promise to embed the segment in the am. Coincidentally, Southpark aired their 9-11 truther episode tonight, as well.


...and there it is, posted by elfismiles, here.



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