BREAKING: SAS caught red-handed in Iraq false flag terror

by **Qutb** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:59 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>IRAQI police have detained two British soldiers believed to be working undercover in the southern port city of Basra following a shooting incident, British military and Iraqi security officials said overnight. "We can confirm that the Iraqi authorities are holding two UK service personnel and we are liaising with the Iraqi authorities on this matter," a British military spokesman said. An Iraqi interior ministry official said British forces had phoned the ministry in Baghdad to say the two detained soldiers were involved in "an intelligence mission". British forces surrounded a police station in the centre of Basra after Iraqi police refused to release the two men. The British forces were themselves surrounded by demonstrators who threw stones and British soldiers fired warning shots. Demonstrators then set fire to two British tanks. British soldiers jumped from the tanks and withdrew without returning fire.<hr></blockquote> <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050919/wl_uk_afp/iraqbritainbasradetain">news.yahoo.com/s/afp/2005...asradetain</a> <blockquote>Quote:<hr>An "agent" over at rumormillnews.com saw early bbc reports that confirmed the car had explosives inside, and that's why the "soldiers" were arrested. They conclude it was an MI6 black op to stir up trouble between Shia and Sunni to bring about civil war, as many of these recent bombings appear to be (and the disgusting bridge incident). It went wrong. <hr></blockquote> <a href="http://iraqwar.mirror-world.ru/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=63763">iraqwar.mirror-world.ru/t...leId=63763</a> <blockquote>Quote:<hr>A Basra policeman, who declined to be named, said the two British servicemen detained were undercover soldiers, wearing Arab dress, who allegedly fired at a police patrol before being forced to stop.<hr></blockquote> <a href="http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,16661037-38201,00.html">www.news.com.au/story/0,1...01,00.html</a> <img src="http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg.com/p/ap/20050919/capt.bag10709191551.iraq__bag107.jpg" style="border:0;"/> <img src="http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg.com/p/rids/20050919/i/r2911984745.jpg" style="border:0;"/> <img src="http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg.com/p/rids/20050919/i/r1328957388.jpg" style="border:0;"/> Qutb means "axis," "pole," "the center," which contains the periphery or is present in it. The qutb is a spiritual being, or function, which can reside in a human being or several human beings or a moment. It is the elusive mystery of how the divine gets delegated into the manifest world and obviously cannot be defined.

by **seemslikeadream** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:20 pm

<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4260894.stm" target="top">news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4260894.stm</a> British troops arrested in Basra British soldiers had to jump from their burning tank Clashes in Basra Two British soldiers have been arrested in the southern Iraqi city of Basra, sparking unrest outside a police station where they are being detained. The men, who were reportedly under cover, are thought to have exchanged fire with police, after failing to stop at a checkpoint. Two British tanks, sent to the police station where the soldiers are being held, were set alight in clashes. But UK officials said they did not know why the pair were being detained. Civilians 'killed' TV pictures show soldiers in combat gear, jumping from one of the flaming tanks and making their escape. British officials would not say if the two men were working under cover Officials said they had received no reports of UK personnel being injured, but local council spokesman Nadhim al Jabari said two civilians were killed in the clashes. Up to 15 civilians were also reported injured in the demonstrations. Tensions have been running high in the city since the arrest of a senior figure in the Shia Mehdi Army by UK troops. In other developments: Nine Iraqi police and a civilian have died in suicide bombings between Baghdad and Karbala, where Shias are attending a major religious festival The Iraqi government says a nephew of Saddam Hussein, Ayman Sabawi, has been sentenced to life in prison for funding Iraq's insurgency An Iraqi reporter working for the New York Times, Fakher Haider, has been found dead in Basra Iraq's Finance Minister, Ali Allawi, tells the UK's Independent newspaper that large-scale corruption in Iraq's ministries, particularly the defence ministry, has led to the theft of more than $1bn. The Ministry of Defence said British officials were seeking access to the detained men and were trying to find out why they were being held. Civilian clothes But the BBC's Caroline Hawley said a call from the British ambassador for the men to be released had not been acted upon. It was now a "serious diplomatic incident", she said, with the British authorities trying to secure their freedom. An Iraqi official in Basra said the British military had informed him the detained men were under cover soldiers. This has not been confirmed, but pictures of two soldiers being detained in police cells show the men wearing civilian clothes. The official said: "They were driving a civilian car and were dressed in civilian clothes when a shooting took place between them and Iraqi patrols. A British soldier is engulfed by flames as he tries to escape "We are investigating and an Iraqi judge is on the case questioning them." An MoD spokeswoman in London would only say: "We can confirm that the Iraqi authorities are holding two UK service personnel and we are liaising with the Iraqi authorities on this matter." But another report said British forces had phoned the ministry in Baghdad to say the two detained soldiers were involved in "an intelligence mission". BBC world affairs correspondent Richard Galpin said tension had been growing in Basra since the arrest on Sunday of a senior figure in the Shia Mehdi Army militia, suspected by the British military of being behind a series of attacks on troops. His arrest drew crowds onto the streets of Basra demanding his release. Richard Galpin said British troops had since carried out further raids and made more arrests, sparking further unrest. <a href="http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1196214,00.html" target="top">www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1196214,00.html</a> SERVICEMEN HELD IN IRAQ Violent clashes erupted in Basra after two British servicemen allegedly shot dead one Iraqi policeman and wounded another. The Britons were arrested by Iraqi authorities and held at the city's main police station, according to local officials. British troops soon arrived and encircled the building where they were attacked by demonstrators with stones and petrol bombs. One soldier was seen engulfed by flames tumbling from a tank and gunfire was exchanged between the two sides, leaving two civilians dead and 15 injured. The Ministry of Defence said there were no reports of any injured, with all troops and vehicles accounted for, although it was "a fast-moving situation". Basra security officials said the two Britons arrested were undercover officers dressed as Arabs. The MoD refused to comment on reports that the men were working undercover or were special forces personnel. A spokesman said: "We can confirm that two military personnel were detained by Iraqi authorities earlier today." He added: "They are still being detained. We are continuing to try to thrash out with the Iraqi authorities what's happened and what can be done. We are trying to get to the bottom of what happened but at the moment we don't know." Photographs showed the unshaven pair in custody, dressed casually in T-shirts and trousers, and sitting on the floor with their hands behind their backs. One of the men had his head swathed in bandages and appeared to have bloodstains on his top. The other, who apparently had blood smeared on his trousers, had plasters on his head. Nadhim al-Jabari, the Basra provincial council's spokesman, said the two men were likely to go before an Iraqi court. It was unclear if they had yet been charged. He said top officials from Basra province were negotiating to defuse the crisis. Tensions have been rising in recent months in the British-controlled region, with civilians and soldiers killed in suspected insurgent attacks. <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/19/AR2005091900572.html?nav=rss_world" target="top">www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/19/AR2005091900572.html?nav=rss_world</a> British Soldiers Clash With Iraqi Police in Basra Governor's House Attacked by Shiite Militiamen By Jonathan Finer and Omar Fekeiki Washington Post Foreign Service Monday, September 19, 2005; 3:12 PM BASRA, Iraq, Sept. 19 -- Heavy clashes erupted Monday between Iraqi police and British soldiers based in Basra, Iraq's second-largest city, witnesses said. The clashes are the latest in surging tensions in Basra, a Shiite-dominated city that had long been one of Iraq's calmest. Attacks have targeted Britons and Americans there. News From Iraq British Soldiers Clash With Iraqi Police in Basra U.S. Claims Success in Iraq Despite Onslaught British Arrest Two Affiliated With Sadr Car Bomb Kills 30 In Baghdad Market World Bank Considers Sending Staff Back to Baghdad More News Who's Blogging? Read what bloggers are saying about this article. Edit Copy A Lie a Day Full List of Blogs (2 links) » Monday's clashes stemmed from the arrest by Iraqi police on Sunday of two British soldiers, whom Iraqi police accused of planting bombs. Iraqi officials described the two as undercover soldiers dressed in civilian clothes and said a shooting incident broke out when police stopped their civilian vehicle. A Western military spokesman in Basra confirmed "an ongoing disturbance" in the city on Monday but said Iraqi and British forces were working together to quell it. "There is public disorder going on," the official said. "We are aware that Iraqi authorities are holding U.K. service personnel, and we are liaising with Iraqi authorities on the matter." Witnesses said the clashes developed amid British attempts to win the release of the two Britons. Fighting in the city continued into Monday evening, and witnesses saw a British armored vehicle in flames after it was allegedly set on fire by Iraqi police. Police convoys circulated in downtown Basra, urging residents to help stop the British from freeing the two soldiers. Earlier, gunmen loyal to a radical Shiite Muslim cleric attacked the house of Basra's governor to press demands for the release of two prominent members of the cleric's militia who were arrested Sunday by British forces. The house of Mohammed Musabah, a 43-year-old technocrat who runs Basra, came under attack early Monday from rocket-propelled grenades and mortar rounds. There were no reports of injuries. Musabah, a former businessman who took office in Basra in March, blamed the attack on the militia of Shiite cleric Moqtada Sadr, whose movement is a rival to the Shiite political party that now holds political power in Basra. In a separate development in Basra, an Iraqi working as a local reporter in Basra for the New York Times was found dead Monday after being kidnapped by masked men, sources close to his family said. Fakher Haider was found with his hands bound and a single gunshot wound to the head hours after having been seized at his home by four men who took him away in handcuffs, telling the family they wanted to interrogate him. The masked men did not identify themselves as police, the sources said. The killing came a month after an American freelance journalist, Steven Vincent, was kidnapped and killed in Basra. He was working on a book about the city and had written an opinion piece for the New York Times in which he criticized Basra's security forces. In the port city of 1.5 million people on the banks of the Shatt al Arab river, residents say the local police force of 13,600 has become as much an instrument of fear as security, Washington Post correspondent Anthony Shadid reported last month. Musabah, the governor of Basra, acknowledged in an interview that the police were infiltrated by religious parties. His police chief, Hassan Sawadi, told the British newspaper the Guardian that he had lost control over three-quarters of his police force and that militiamen inside its ranks were using their posts to assassinate opponents. Soon after, Musabah said, the Interior Ministry ordered Sawadi not to speak again publicly. MORE http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4817779At DU muriel_volestrangler Channel 4 TV in the UK speculated that it might be spying on the Iraqi police, who are thought to have factions allied to Sadr. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=seemslikeadream@rigorousintuition>seemslikeadream</A> at: 9/19/05 2:31 pm

by **Qutb** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:49 pm

<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/19/AR2005091900572_2.html?nav=rss_world" target="top">Washington Post</a> BASRA, Iraq, Sept. 19 -- Heavy clashes erupted Monday between Iraqi police and British soldiers based in Basra, Iraq's second-largest city, witnesses said. The clashes are the latest in surging tensions in Basra, a Shiite-dominated city that had long been one of Iraq's calmest. Attacks have targeted British and Americans there. Monday's clashes stemmed from the arrest by Iraqi police on Sunday of two Britons, whom Iraqi police accused of planting bombs. A Western military spokesman in Basra confirmed "an ongoing disturbance" in the city on Monday but said Iraqi and British force were working together to try to quell it. (...) In a separate development in Basra, an Iraqi working as a local reporter in Basra for the New York Times was found dead Monday after being kidnapped by masked men, sources close to his family said. Fakher Haider was found with his hands bound and a single gunshot wound to the head hours after having been seized at his home by four men who took him away in handcuffs, telling the family they wanted to interrogate him. The masked men did not identify themselves as police, the sources said. The killing came a month after an American freelance journalist, Steven Vincent, was kidnapped and killed in Basra. He was working on a book about the city and had written an opinion piece for the New York Times in which he criticized Basra's security forces. Qutb means "axis," "pole," "the center," which contains the periphery or is present in it. The qutb is a spiritual being, or function, which can reside in a human being or several human beings or a moment. It is the elusive mystery of how the divine gets delegated into the manifest world and obviously cannot be defined.

by **Jerky** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 5:08 pm

Just... wow.

by **Qutb** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 5:16 pm

BASRA, Iraq (AP) - British forces using tanks broke down the walls of the central jail in the southern city of Basra late Monday and freed two Britons, allegedly undercover commandos, who had been arrested on charges of shooting two Iraqi policemen. Witnesses said about 150 Iraqi prisoners also fled the jail. Violence flared earlier in the day as demonstrators hurled stones and Molotov cocktails at British tanks; at least four people were killed. The fighting erupted after British armor encircled the jail where the two Britons were being held. During the melee one soldier could be seen scrambling for his life from a burning tank and the rock-throwing mob. <a href="http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/20050919/D8CNHCHG6.html?PG=home&SEC=news">apnews1.iwon.com//article...e&SEC=news</a> Qutb means "axis," "pole," "the center," which contains the periphery or is present in it. The qutb is a spiritual being, or function, which can reside in a human being or several human beings or a moment. It is the elusive mystery of how the divine gets delegated into the manifest world and obviously cannot be defined.

by **Starman** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 5:37 pm

Seems, the police and locals have a pretty good idea these Brit soldiers were involved in false-flag ops -- or why would they shoot a police officer unprovoked? It's not clear what happened to the shot policeman, though it's sure to enflame tensions. The evident support the police have among the populace is also quite telling, underscoring the impossible situation the US and UK have created. I imagine there's a great deal of distrust and suspician by Iraqis over US/Uk underhanded tactics that is never reported by western media. What a horrible, pig-headed fiasco. True justice would require the top US and UK officials who conspired to attack and invade Iraq, and the chain of command that set the conditions for war-crimes and torture and atrocities, should be tried for their crimes and given suitably harsh sentences. That they won't be is yet another sign of the US and UK's corrupt leadership and self-serving hypocrisy. Shame ... Starman *** <a href="http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2005-09-19T164541Z_01_YUE946529_RTRUKOC_0_UK-IRAQ-BRITONS.xml">today.reuters.co.uk/news/...RITONS.xml</a> --excerpt-- Two Iraqis were killed in the violence, an Interior Ministry official said. "We can confirm that a shooting incident involving U.K. military personnel has taken place which is currently being investigated," a British military spokesman said in a statement. "Two U.K. military personnel have been detained and we are liaising with the Iraqi authorities on this matter." An Iraqi official in Basra said the British military had informed him the detained men were undercover soldiers. "They were driving a civilian car and were dressed in civilian clothes when a shooting took place between them and Iraqi patrols," the official told Reuters. "We are investigating and an Iraqi judge is on the case questioning them." UNDERCOVER Reuters photographs showed one of the two detained men with a bandage on his head. Police and Interior Ministry officials said the men were wearing traditional Arab headdresses for their undercover mission. Mohammed al-Abadi, an official in the Basra governorate, said the two men looked suspicious to police. "A policeman approached them and then one of these guys fired at him. Then the police managed to capture them," Abadi told reporters. "They refused to say what their mission was. They said they were British soldiers and (suggested) to ask their commander about their mission," he added. Reuters Television footage showed the tank trying to reverse away from trouble after it came under attack, apparently from petrol bombs as a crowd gathered around it. Within moments flames emerged from the top of the tank, after a furious crowd hurled petrol bombs, burning furniture and tyres at it. One soldier climbed out of the vehicle's hatch and jumped clear of it, as the crowd pelted him with stones. A witness said people drove through the streets of Basra with loudhailers demanding that the undercover Britons remain in detention and be sent to jail. Basra, capital of the Shi'ite south, has been relatively stable compared with central Iraq, where Sunni Arab insurgents have killed thousands of Iraqi and U.S. troops, officials and civilians with suicide attacks, roadside bombs and shootings. The main ally of the United States, Britain said on Sunday it would if necessary increase the number of troops in Iraq, where it has about 8,500 soldiers.

by **Qutb** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:23 pm

<a href="http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=1140259" target="top">ABC/AP</a> BASRA, Iraq Sep 19, 2005 — In a major show of force, British soldiers used tanks to break down the walls of the central jail in this southern city late Monday and freed two Britons, allegedly undercover commandos, who had been arrested on charges of shooting two Iraqi policemen. About 150 Iraqi prisoners also fled as British commandos stormed inside and rescued their comrades, said Aquil Jabbar, an Iraqi television cameraman who lives across the street from the jail. Earlier Monday, demonstrators hurled stones and Molotov cocktails at British tanks, and at least four people were killed. The fighting in the oil city of Basra, 340 miles south of the capital, erupted after British armor encircled the jail where the two Britons were being held. During the melee one British soldier could be seen in a photograph scrambling for his life from a burning tank and the rock-throwing mob. Qutb means "axis," "pole," "the center," which contains the periphery or is present in it. The qutb is a spiritual being, or function, which can reside in a human being or several human beings or a moment. It is the elusive mystery of how the divine gets delegated into the manifest world and obviously cannot be defined.

by **Rigorous Intuition** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 7:11 pm

UK says 2 soldiers freed in Iraq after talks (15 minutes ago) LONDON - Britain denied reports on Monday that its troops stormed a prison in southern Iraq to free two British soldiers, saying the pair were released after negotiations. "We‘ve heard nothing to suggest we stormed the prison," a defense ministry spokesman in London said. "We understand there were negotiations." An Iraqi interior ministry official earlier said British tanks smashed into a prison in Basra to free two undercover British soldiers seized on Monday by Iraqi forces. The official said British troops using half a dozen tanks stormed the jail, allowing dozens of Iraqi prisoners to escape during the raid. The British defense ministry spokesman said he had no more details of the soldiers‘ release. British Defense Secretary John Reid said in a statement that the two men, who have not been named, were back with British forces. "I can confirm that the two British service personnel detained earlier today by the IPS (Iraq Police Service), have now been released and are back with British forces," he said. "The situation in Basra is currently calmer after a day of disturbances. At this stage it is not possible to be certain why these disturbances began." He said British soldiers in armored vehicles attacked by crowds throwing petrol bombs and stones suffered minor injuries and would soon return to duty. <a href="http://www.leadingthecharge.com/stories/news-0074549.html">www.leadingthecharge.com/...74549.html</a>

by **DrDebugDU** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 7:15 pm

Yes there are no more tanks trying to destroy the walls of jails to break their undercover bomb laying terrorists free. It's easy to negotiate at the barrel of a tank <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/devil.gif ALT=":evil"> Coincidentally a message from al-CIA-da was released about a war on Shiite Muslim in Iraq <a href="http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L19169092.htm">www.alertnet.org/thenews/...169092.htm</a> They are not related. Of course there is no relation whatsoever :silly Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=drdebugdu>DrDebugDU</A> at: 9/19/05 5:18 pm

by **OnoI812** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:11 pm

the smug Pommie in the black t shirt I'll start- SAS "We do false flag right" Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=onoi812>OnoI812</A> at: 9/19/05 6:56 pm

by **dbeach** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:33 pm

the joy of exposing the lies of the elites..their black ops and hired killers..GOOD work as the people acted as a team and how the black ops like delta force have been romanticized by the MM ..from James Bond..to Chuck Norris..the license to kill needs to EXPIRE.. no offense to either action hero. But its about the conditioning of the mases to accept killing as an act of bravery when often the victim is unarmed..

by **Inanna** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:52 pm

I knew someone who was special ops and an expert marksman and also taught others in the military to do the same. He told me he could be quite cold in his job, like business. Does this fit the profile of those black ops people you speak of, or could he be in a different category? He used to post pics of the Kurds and call them his brothers and sisters, so I am a bit confused. Are they all killers and bad guys? He was a ranger in special ops.

by **dbeach** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:19 pm

RANGERS ,GREEN BERETS ,SEALS ARE NOT BLACK OPS although they could be recruited and some are..there was a story about a former USN seal who is a bush backer millionaire and security expert at DU about 2 wks ago who was rumoured as balck ops.it smore they get the taxpayer funded training ..then go in for the civilain contracts I saw the balck helocopters recently and posted it here..These are real black helos and buzz by...they are not working for the US Miliatary like regular Army..their budget in Congress is very secret..these are the villains who will carry out the final solution if if gets to that stage... Black ops are usually well trained killers and could be any of the former special military elite units and /or from the Ultra secret delta force.or recruited elsewhere????.govt is also using these guys and others as paid mercenaries..I read that some of them are recruited from orphanages and broken homes and are promised a good life in return for their skills..all paid for by the US taxpayer..British black ops are most likely very similar..I have known former rangers,green berets and other elite military guys..all are very nice people and actually know more than one who is very wise to the bush criminals

by **anonymoose** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:30 pm

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- A British armored vehicle escorted by a tank crashed into a detention center Monday in Basra and rescued two undercover troops held by police, an Iraqi Interior Ministry official told CNN. British Defense Ministry Secretary John Reid confirmed two British military personnel were "released," but he gave no details on how they were freed. In a statement released in London, Reid did not say why the two had been taken into custody. But the Iraqi official, who spoke to CNN on condition of anonymity, said their arrests stemmed from an incident earlier in the day. The official said two unknown gunmen in full Arabic dress began firing on civilians in central Basra, wounding several, including a traffic police officer. There were no fatalities, the official said. The two gunmen fled the scene but were captured and taken in for questioning, admitting they were British marines carrying out a "special security task," the official said. British troops launched the rescue about three hours after Iraqi authorities informed British commanders the men were being held at the police department's major crime unit, the official said. Iraqi police said members of Iraq's Mehdi Army militia engaged the British forces around the facility, burning one personnel carrier and an armored vehicle. Video showed dozens of Iraqis surrounding British armored vehicles and tossing gasoline bombs, rocks and other debris at them. With one vehicle engulfed in flames, a soldier opened the hatch and bailed out as rocks were thrown at him. Another photograph showed a British soldier on fire on top of a tank.

by **dbeach** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:06 am

I am sad to hear about these guys dying and burning BUT they are killing the Iraqis as practice for killing us and the Brits and anyone who resists these elite satanists.. I pray for the innocents.

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