alternative take on bush @ northcom this weekend

[glubglubglub]

here: <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://godlikeproductions.com/bbs/message.php?message=161444&mpage=1&topic=3&showdate=9/25/05">godlikeproductions.com/bb...te=9/25/05</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Granted, it's GLP, but worth thinking about in the spirit of considering all options. FWIW, too, I've got a connection who in turn gets pretty straight dope from very high-level air force types, and the stuff about the military being split over but largely against the Neocons is pretty much accurate, at least from what he says.<br><br>Apparently the picture he gets is that Bush et al. is considered to have been blackmailed into taking particular stances on middle eastern policy, and so on that front his hands are tied but otherwise the admin's free to do as it pleases, which has turned out to be the usual republican modus operandi. <p></p><i></i>

[rain]

blackmailed!?<br>sheesh.<br>is that a bit like 'who's screening who'?<br> <p></p><i></i>

[Inanna]

I think people have caught on to these drills and that everytime one is conducted, something goes Kaboom! So maybe this drill was an attempt to throw people off that track of thinking. Why else would the WAPO print it in plain sight so everyone can see?<br><br>Maybe we're catching on and this is an attempt to throw us off the track? <p></p><i></i>

[marykmusic]

We watched (on my computer, as we don't watch TV) a news report of Bush just before he left for Colorado. Michael ("Son of the Devil") Chertoff was behind him the whole time.<br><br>We were amazed that he was pouring sweat, reminded me of Charlie McCarthy with his handler behind him.<br><br>The press wasn't handling him with kid gloves, either. --MaryK <p></p><i></i>

[rain]

or 'another theory'.<br>how about, things didn't go quite as planned.<br><br>but, Inanna, I do so hope and wish that enough of the people are on to it.<br><br>and MaryK., bave you had the chance to have a good look at it. Ken and Barbie aint got nothin' on this version.<br> <p></p><i></i>

[dbeach]

Bush is being blackmailed is kinda a contradiction..bush and his poppy o have been using blackmail.murders,bribery ,extortion and fixed elections since way back when sammie bush was arming the Kiaser in WW I..<br><br>NO EXCUSES for bush or any criminals..<br><br>this sounds like a conditioning story in case any indictments are handed out..<br><br>Feel sorry for poor blackmailed bush<br><br>Yes I keep hearing most of the Military is against the busheviks..They sure have a funny way of showing their Patriotism..MAYBE its about time the real SECRETS of the ages start being told..How the corporat elites have sold humanity ect...for all the gold in satans eeyes<br><br>FOOLS GOLD and all these rich sickos have sold out.. <p></p><i></i>

[glubglubglub]

I'm not saying he's a good man blackmailed into bad deeds...just that the word from somewhere in the airforce is that on certain fronts he'd rather do dastardly deed X but is blackmailed into dastardly deed Y instead. Both X and Y are stuff we wouldn't approve of, but it's important to someone that X and not Y be done. <br><br>I pretty much think he and his cronies are bastards all the way through, but it's good news if the rumors about the military are correct...and if so that GLPer's take makes some sense. <p></p><i></i>

[marykmusic]

I had to Google ol' Sammie, and I found this. --MaryK<br><br>Samuel Prescott Bush<br>From SourceWatch<br>Father of Prescott Sheldon Bush, grandfather to George Herbert Walker Bush (Poppy), great-grandfather to George Walker Bush (Dubya). <br><br>Sam Bush was in his era to Remington Arms what Dick Cheney is to Halliburton in ours. Son of an Episcopal minister, he switched to a darker religion. Sam started out as low-management for railroads, where he made the connections needed to move over to Buckeye Steel Castings Company. Buckeye harbored railroad strike-breaker sentiment from the president on down. It's founder was member of the "Cleveland Gatling Gun Battery",[1] (<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.h-net.org/~business/bhcweb/publications/BEHprint/v008/p0009-p0015.pdf)">www.h-net.org/~business/b...p0015.pdf)</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> called a military and social organization, set up in 1878, the year after nationwide railroad strikes. <br><br>This guns and railroad connection returns for World War I, when Buckeye Steel produced gun barrels and shell casings, and Sam Bush was moved by his patrons into the position of chief of the Ordnance, Small Arms and Ammunition Section of the War Industries Board. Bush took national responsibility for government assistance to and relations with Remington and other weapons companies.[2] (<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://coat.ncf.ca/our_magazine/links/54/54_12-13.pdf)">coat.ncf.ca/our_magazine/...12-13.pdf)</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> This was during the time that Buckeye Steel was casting gun barrels and Bush was president of Buckeye. <br><br>Preacher's son Bush looks innocent until you are informed that his patron, Percy Rockefeller took control of Remington Arms in 1914. Frank Rockefeller was president of Buckeye Steel for three years from 1905-1908, followed by Sam Bush from 1908-1927, throughout the WWI years and the gunbarrel sales era of Buckeye.[3] (<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.scripophily.net/bucsteelcasc4.html)">www.scripophily.net/bucsteelcasc4.html)</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> In 1915 a new Remington plant was constructed, operational by 1916 for the first world war, just in time to get a million rifle order from Russia.[4] (<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.remingtonsociety.com/gallery/album05),">www.remingtonsociety.com/.../album05),</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> [5] (<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.remington.com/aboutus/corphistory.htm)">www.remington.com/aboutus...story.htm)</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> 67% of all the ammunition used in WWI by the US, Britain and Russia was sold by "Merchants of Death" Remington. Somebody got a no-bid contract on gun barrels for their company. <br><br>Pumping up nations war aspirations is good business for some, and the Bush family has been engaged in it for four generations. <br><br>Samuel Bush donated a son Prescott Sheldon Bush to the marriage of Dorothy Walker, daughter of George Herbert Walker. The name Walker thence comes in the middle of two George Bush presidents. <br><br>See George Herbert Walker's story for the other half of this history of where Bush Family Values were created. <br> <p></p><i></i>

[Dreams End]

glubglubglub,<br><br>any rumors from these military types that they plan to ACT on their anti-Bush sentiments? <p></p><i></i>

[glubglubglub]

That's the thing -- this is going on three+ years now that I've been hearing how pissed the boys back at the pentagon are pissed, but if they've got plans / are doing something it's mighty stealthy, if you catch my drift.<br><br>As much as I'd like to believe that -- flocco and skolnick style -- the military's just moving in the shadows to protect the investigation in chicago so as to have a publicly understood explanation for when the counter-coup goes overt, well, I just can't; I instead keep thinking of the military being that grumbling dog to the neocons' red baron (hanna-barbara reference). <p></p><i></i>

[albion]

Interesting description of Bush @ Northcom in Newsweek:<br><br>"The president didn't look all that relieved or happy, however. His eyes were puffy from lack of sleep (he had been awakened all through the night with bulletins), and he seemed cranky and fidgety. A group of reporters and photographers had been summoned by White House handlers to capture a photo op of the commander in chief at his post. Bush stared at them balefully. He rocked back and forth in his chair, furiously at times, asked no questions and took no notes. It almost seemed as though he resented having to strike a pose for the press."<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9470154/site/newsweek/page/2/">www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9470...ek/page/2/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg.com/p/afp/20050923/capt.sge.ktn38.230905210516.photo01.photo.default-384x260.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i></i>

[Inanna]

Well, whatever that Operation Granite was/is, it's not expected to be applied on a large scale until April 2006. This has me wondering what it is. Were there nefarious plans in place they simply were not allowed to go with?<br><br>I tell you, tonight is the first night I woke up not able to sleep over this stuff. I hope it's because I haven't had a cigarette in over 24 hours and this has something to do with it. <br><br>I had such a bad feeling about this weekend, but it would seem nothing went "wrong." The calm before the storm? It takes a toll waiting for the other shoe to drop, which it no doubt will.<br><br>I really hope something is in the works. I've read about the indictments, but with Flocco's bizarre reporting as of late, I don't know what to make of things. I am past the point of getting excited over good news (except for that ruling handed down about the guns in LA). Once the courts are completely stacked against us -- that's when we really have to worry. <br><br>I am glad to hear reports that Bush looked so out of sorts. Anytime that guy is smiling I know it's cause for worry. <p></p><i></i>

[dbeach]

Karl B. S\shwarz has beeen saying that the military is composed of 60% anti-bushers .then kay Griggs says most of the higher officers are compromised<br><br>Flocco needs a geography lesson ..talk about the biggest bobble of all times and now his credibilty is about gone.<br>.Cloak and dagger and the other fringies are welll entertaining..informative..??<br><br>I know this only . The MM reported that JFK jr was a bad pilot and flew on a foggy nite when the plane crashed<br><br>I live close enough to the islands near Mass to say this and only this NO FOG for days and nights those wks I was bon Vaca and watching the wheather very closley <br> NO FOG yet the MM kept the mantra the same he flew in fog..HELLO <br><br><br>Olson is whatever BUT the JFK jr story sure seems plausible to me <p></p><i></i>

[marykmusic]

...and only some of what you see.<br><br>But I believe you about the fog. --MaryK <p></p><i></i>

[dbeach]

thanx Mary and others have said same.<br><br>I watch the wheather very close in summer and look for clear sunny and /or sunny muggy<br><br>Those 2 wks that summer were a bit cool for July about 75 -83 but clear as a bell and gorgeous..<br><br>FOGGY like foggy bottom wher many of the reptoid DC pols hang out.<br><br>bush/clinotons been smugglin dope as a tag team unit since clinton was governor..Why is it such a surprise that they murdered JFK jr..?/<br><br>Flooc is done..for now anyways..nice rebbutal by his pal Mary Schneider at rense..after 2/3 vicious commentsst .. she sticks up for Flocco.. <p></p><i></i>