Military Quarantine *Coming soon to a US city near you!*

by **thrulookingglass** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 3:57 pm

I just have no words for this... Apocalypse, here we come! WASHINGTON -- President George W. Bush, increasingly concerned about a possible avian flu pandemic, revealed Tuesday that any part of the country where the virus breaks out could likely be quarantined and that he is considering using the military to enforce it. "The best way to deal with a pandemic is to isolate it and keep it isolated in the region in which it begins," he said during a wide-ranging Rose Garden news conference. The president was asked if his recent talk of giving the military the lead in responding to large natural disasters such as Hurricane Katrina and other catastrophes was in part the result of his concerns that state and local personnel aren't up to the task of a flu outbreak. "Yes," he replied. After the bungled initial federal response to Katrina, Bush suggested putting the Pentagon in charge of search-and-rescue efforts in times of a major terrorist attack or similarly catastrophic natural disaster. He has argued that the armed forces have the ability to quickly mobilize the equipment, manpower and communications capabilities needed in times of crisis. But such a shift could require a change in law, and some in Congress and the states worry it would increase the power of the federal government at the expense of local control. Bush made clear that the potential for an outbreak of avian flu is much on his mind, and has had him talking with "as many (world) leaders as I could find," consulting a book he read over the summer on the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic that killed 40 million and meeting with staff and experts. "I have thought through the scenarios of what an avian flu outbreak could mean," he said. He acknowledged that a quarantine -- an idea sure to alarm many in the public -- is no small thing for the government to undertake and that enforcing it would be tricky. "It's one thing to shut down airplanes," Bush said. "It's another thing to prevent people from coming in to get exposed to the avian flu." He urged Congress to give him the ability to use the military, if needed. "I think the president ought to have all ... assets on the table to be able to deal with something this significant," he said. As a standby precaution, Bush in April signed an executive order that added pandemic influenza to the government's list of communicable diseases for which a quarantine is authorized. It gives the government legal authority to detain or isolate a passenger arriving in the United States to prevent an infection from spreading. At the time the order was signed, a spokeswoman for the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said the Public Health Service would probably recommend home quarantines when possible, but said they would be voluntary. It's unclear whether the federal takeover of state and local quarantine powers that Bush discussed Tuesday would be limited just to travel or involve broader home quarantines as well. Bush also said he has been urging world leaders to improve reporting on outbreaks of the virus, and exploring how to speed the production of a spray, now in limited supply, that "can maybe help arrest the spread of the disease." "One of the issues is how do we encourage the manufacturing capacity of the country, and maybe the world, to be prepared to deal with the outbreak of a pandemic?" he said. Yet it is the pill Tamiflu, which makes symptoms less severe and shortens the duration of the illness, that is in short supply -- not its harder-to-use inhaled competitor Relenza. Experts agree there will certainly be another flu pandemic -- a new human flu strain that goes global. However, it is unknown when or how bad that global epidemic will be -- or whether the H5N1 bird flu strain now circulating in Asian poultry will be its origin. Just in case, experts are tracking the avian flu, which has swept through poultry populations in large swaths of Asia since 2003, jumped to humans and killed at least 65 people. Most human cases have been linked to a contact with sick birds, but the World Health Organization has warned the virus could mutate into a form that spreads easily among humans -- changing it from a bird virus to a human pandemic flu strain.

by **manxkat** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 4:04 pm

I saw a <a href="http://tinyurl.com/798h5" target="top">link to this</a> on RawStory.com today as well. Very scary, but not surprising at all from our dictator in chief.

by **dbeach** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 4:20 pm

<a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4967430">www.democraticunderground...04x4967430</a> big discussion at DU SAY NO to any Mandated GOVT VACCINES The Vets got sick from the anthrax vaccine and the busheviks are trying to quiet it down

by * » Tue Oct 04, 2005 4:31 pm

<a href="http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/patriot_act.htm">read it and weep</a> Between the Patriot Actâ„¢ and the Homeland Security Actâ„¢ congress gave Bush every tool he ever needed to impliment the slave state.

by **dbeach** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 4:40 pm

"Dear Sir..I am very concerned when Mr. Bush asks for yet more executive powers. He is asking now to use the US Military to enforce the avian flu if it hits the USA.. I wonder who has stock in this type of vaccine..Its sure to be a major giveaway to his croonies , completely unnecessary and a big overreaction. Mr. Bush and Cheney enjoying weilding unlimited power and controlling the masses with fear. I am asking you to speak out against the possible illegal use of soldiers to enforce a quaritine and the reckless spending of US taxdollars. Medical problems need to provided by the health care professionals and not with a forced quarantine.Sincerely "

by **Starman** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 4:58 pm

Sheer lunacy -- The president (sic) has been reading a book on the Spanish Flu, and Congress is all set to roll-over and grant him unlimted power to put the Military in control of Pandemic Quarantines -- and I suppose their increased authority to take over disaster search-and-rescue missions is just a little bonus clause? It's hard to come up with suitable words for the outrage and contempt I feel at the magnificent failure of reason and critical thinking that these developments represent. One of the biggest 'flaws' in FEMA's Katrina storm recovery was preventing fully-qualified local and interstate volunteers, including many professionals, from helping -- and actively preventing aid from reaching areas whereit was urgently needed. Meanwhile, our 'health' industry has become a cartel exploiting the advantages of illness in a monopolist franchise in which up to 100,000 people die annually from incompetance and mistakes and unintended drug interactions and mismanagement. Oh, and reports that cell-phone towers are equipped with huge back-up generator capability to flood populated areas with elf radiation -- demonstrated mood-altering and thought-control technology to assist domestic crowd control during times of crises? More freaky scary strange and sinister stuff ever' day. Starman

by **Homeless Halo** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 5:08 pm

The government can't handle us. Everytime they've been called in for Riots and/or "Civil Disorder" type things, they've been kicked down and driven from the city. They always claim to have "negotiated a cessation of the violence" with the "ringleaders" or some other such nonsense. The truth is, everyone went home after they pull out. They have no chance.

by **heath7** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 5:12 pm

After being found grossly inadequate and corrupt in response to Katrina, it takes quite a set for Bush to demand absolute power during disaster management. Of course its the obscene docility of Americans that grants Bushco the power of these gigantuan brass ones.

by **Morgan Wolf** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 8:15 pm

Slave state is one way of looking at it. Let me present another: I'm currently working as a licensed pharmacy tech - just as long as it takes for me to make it through to my MA. Let me tell you, the level of disinformation about the flu has been effectively disseminated by the MSM and the pharmaceutical industry. Since last week, we've had so many elderly customers call in or come down to speak to us, it's madness. They all want the vaccine. They are all afraid of dying in the coming Avian Flu pandemic. This weekend, in response to consumer demand (I love retail BS), our store is having its first flu clinic. The cost is 'nominal.' One young woman, a front store employee, asked me if she and her family should get vaccinated. I told her flat out, no. I said that the elderly and those with respiratory conditions are most at-risk, but more to the point, every vaccine contains the virus. Did she understand this? She did not. Some people contract the virus, once vaccinated. It's a crap shoot and most of the public has no freaking idea. Not to mention, there is big $$$ to be made by getting the public to believe they are in danger of contracting this newest form of terror: BIRD FLU. In fact, both of our pharmacists have placed orders for hundreds of bottles of Tamiflu to make sure we do not run out. Speaking of drugs, I just found the following: <blockquote>Quote:<hr>October 3, 2005 - Avian flu boost for Biota as governments build stockpiles (requires registration) - www.smh.com.au - "While the world grows more alarmed at the prospect of an avian influenza pandemic, three companies have found themselves the beneficiaries of the potential health disaster..Roche Holdings and GlaxoSmithKline are the manufacturers of antiviral drugs Tamiflu and Relenza, the latter invented by Australian biotech Biota in the late 1980s."<hr></blockquote> <a href="http://www.vaccinationnews.com/breaking_news_archives.htm" target="top">www.vaccinationnews.com/breaking_news_archives.htm</a> Need more horror? From the same web site, which has a ton of similar news stories from around the globe: <blockquote>Quote:<hr>October 3, 2005 - Doctor worried about flu vaccine preservative (requires registration) - News Sentinel via www.knoxnews.com - "Family practitioner Dr. David Adams presented 'Flu Shots and Vaccines: What You Need to Know!' and moderated an informational discussion at the forum sponsored by Wholistic Wellness Network...Among Adams' chief concerns was that the majority of flu vaccine in America still contains thimerosal, a preservative used since the 1930s that's almost 50 percent mercury...'You're injecting yourself with a neurotoxin which the EPA would be horrified if you ate' enough mercury-containing fish to have the same levels in your body, said Adams, who believes his son's autism was caused by ingredients in vaccines."<hr></blockquote> Instead of getting vaccinated, I'd advise folks who are afraid of the flu just to be sensible about how to keep from getting it. Stay out of public places if your area seems to have an outbreak. Other prophylactic measures: wash your hands frequently, use hand sanitizer afterward and between washings, keep yourself hydrated, rested, and take lots of Vitamin C, and above all, don't pay attention to government generated reports. Those of you with children are more likely than anyone else to get sick. Kids are just a mass of germs, sniffling and sneezing on everyone. If your child gets sick, keep him/her at home. Those who are sent to school sick are going to infect other kids. I realize childcare is a problem, especially for single parents. However, sending sick kids to school has become a public health issue. If you get sick, try to get through it without antibiotics. I am apalled by the number of Z-pak presecription that trot their way across my counter on a regular old Wednesday in wintertime. Holy crap! Pretty soon, those antibiotics won't work at all - they are not meant for viral infections and are less effective each time you take them. So try and tough it out if you catch the flu. Rest and push fluids, like we did in the olden days, when the only thing out there was penicillin and nobody took it unless they were practically dying. That's my 2 cents worth. Stay well, people. Morgan

by **OnoI812** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 8:49 pm

Morgan- can you enlighten us as to what type of preservative is in those vaccines.

by **dbeach** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 9:02 pm

THANK U Morgan Wolf for this dose of sanity. the govt is poisoining their own/ our own Military with DU and the Anthrax vaccine . SOS !they poisoined the VN Vets with Agent Orange and mant VN Vets and Vietnamese are dying of cancers.. "Instead of getting vaccinated, I'd advise folks who are afraid of the flu just to be sensible about how to keep from getting it. Stay out of public places if your area seems to have an outbreak. Other prophylactic measures: wash your hands frequently, use hand sanitizer afterward and between washings, keep yourself hydrated, rested, and take lots of Vitamin C, and above all, don't pay attention to government generated reports." try Noni juice or wolfberry juice..GREAT for boosting the immune system and stock up on vitamins and herbs cuz that Codex law is going to allow via the CAFTA Laws the regulation of the entire herbal supplements industry I will have more info cuz Iam on some anti-cafta/codex email list

by **Morgan Wolf** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 9:25 pm

dbeach, Absolutely, stock up on vitamins and herbal remedies! It's worth mentioning that the kids who are now attending pharmacy school, who work as interns at the store, are being conditioned to believe that 'natural' or holistic remedies are old-fashioned, outmoded, and downright dangerous. These kids are not going to recommend an herbal remedy to someone coming up and asking for it. The old-timers, like my two managers, are well-aware of what works and don't have a problem with it. But the young-uns, they are already indoctrinated with drug company propaganda. I doubt they've made the connection between their careers and the interests of the pharmaceutical companies. But, whatever. WE know the truth. Cheers, Morgan

by **Morgan Wolf** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:05 pm

Hi Ono|812, This is a great article that will help explain the vaccine preservative problem: <blockquote>Quote:<hr><a href="http://educate-yourself.org/cn/thimerosalpoisoning22jun05.shtml" target="top">The Vaccine Industry vs Robert F. Kennedy Jr.</a> By Mark Sircus Ac., OMD <director@imva.info> June 22, 2005 Original Title Robert F. Kennedy Jr. VS the Medical Elite International Medical Veritas Assocation In reality doctors and the medical elite are lying to the public. Without a scientific leg to stand on they go on insisting there is no problem injecting the deadly nerve poison thimerosal into children. At this point parents know more about medicine than the doctors and the doctors just cannot stand the humiliation. They would rather hang onto their pride and let kids be injected with thimerosal, which is fifty percent mercury by weight, then humble themselves before their patients. They would rather see families destroyed and lives lived in misery, pain and disease than just admit they are wrong. When it comes to thimerosal science is now totally against the medical elite and the pharmaceutical companies as well as your local friendly doctor. But with their money and power the pharmaceutical companies have maintained a long list of medical officials who sustain a medical horror that has neurologically damaged millions of children. Robert F. Kennedy Jr., speaking on national radio this week on the Imus show, expressed this graphically, indicating those medical officials, when they speak about thimerosal in vaccines, use “high sounding language, but under questioning they fall apart because the science is so clear that thimerosal is deadly. The scientific evidence is now so overwhelming (that thimerosal is toxic) that it’s almost bizarre the way medical officials defend its safety. They have no defense and they know it. It’s an institutional bureaucratic cover-up.” On the Scarborough Country show Kennedy went on to say, "One in every 166 children has autism. Plus one in six have other kinds of learning disorders, other kinds of neurological disorders, speech delay, language disorders, ADD, hyperactivity, that all seem to be connected to autism -- to Thimerosal. There are literally hundreds and hundreds of studies that connect Thimerosal to these disastrous neurological disorders." These words from Kennedy strike a note of doom for the medical elite in governmental agencies like the CDC and the FDA as well as other organizations like the Institute of Medicine who have turned their backs on basic science. All you have to do is look at the Calvary University video of mercury destroying nerve sheaths to know that there is no question that mercury is a horridly devastating substa<hr></blockquote> Continue reading <a href="http://educate-yourself.org/cn/thimerosalpoisoning22jun05.shtml" target="top">here</a>. See, also: <a href="http://educate-yourself.org/zsl/birdfluvaccine10feb04.shtml" target="top">The Bird Flu Vaccine: An Attempt to Create That Which We Fear</a> Vaccine Dangers: <a href="http://educate-yourself.org/vcd/" target="top">educate-yourself.org/vcd/</a> Vaccine Liberation: <a href="http://www.vaclib.org/" target="top">www.vaclib.org/</a> In the interest of fairness, I include the following, from the New England Journal of Medicine, September 29, 2005 issue: <a href="http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/353/13/1374" target="top">Avian Influenza A (H5N1) Infection in Humans: The Writing Committee of the World Health Organization (WHO) Consultation on Human Influenza A/H5</a> <blockquote>Quote:<hr> An unprecedented epizootic avian influenza A (H5N1) virus that is highly pathogenic has crossed the species barrier in Asia to cause many human fatalities and poses an increasing pandemic threat. This summary describes the features of human infection with influenza A (H5N1) and reviews recommendations for prevention and clinical management presented in part at the recent World Health Organization (WHO) Meeting on Case Management and Research on Human Influenza A/H5, which was held in Hanoi, May 10 through 12, 2005. Incidence The occurrence of human influenza A (H5N1) in Southeast Asia (Table 1) has paralleled large outbreaks of avian influenza A (H5N1), although the avian epidemics in 2004 and 2005 have only rarely led to disease in humans. The largest number of cases has occurred in Vietnam, particularly during the third, ongoing wave, and the first human death was recently reported in Indonesia. The frequencies of human infection have not been determined, and seroprevalence studies are urgently needed. The expanding geographic distribution of avian influenza A (H5N1) infections, with recent outbreaks in Kazakstan, Mongolia, and Russia, indicates that more human populations are at risk.2,3 <hr></blockquote> Keep informed, use common sense, and stay as healthy as you can. Above all, don't panic yourself into getting vaccinated. Okay?? We'll make it through just fine. BTW: All things considered, I wouldn't take a job working with chickens anytime soon. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"> Cheers, Morgan

by **chiggerbit** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 11:09 pm

Crap, the president reads a book---finally---and suddenly we are faced with the "need" for the Pentagon to get involved militarily in a pandemic. He mentions the possibility of a pandemic. Why? Because he read a book. One book! How embarrassing. Can you imagine what the man would do if he read on a regular basis? What I want to know is who assigned him that reading assignment, as if he is in ninth grade. The man is a fool who looks like a chicken pecking at grain when he speaks publicly, trying to appear chummy, succeeding in looking like a fucking pecking chicken. <a href="http://www.progressivetrail.org/?q=node&from=20">www.progressivetrail.org/?q=node&from=20</a> Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 10/4/05 9:10 pm

by **GDN01** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 11:39 pm

Morgan - would the current flu vaccine even be effective in the event of an avian flu outbreak? I understood that each year, the manufacturers produce a vaccine based on a certain strain, and there is no guarantee that will even be the strain that people end up contracting - rendering the vaccine useless in some cases. Is there a specific avian flu vaccine available?

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