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Illegal Immigrants Intentionally Causing Freeway Accidents

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:59 pm

John McCain: Illegal Immigrants 'Intentionally Causing Accidents On The Freeway'
First Posted: 04-20-10 01:00 PM | Updated: 04-20-10 01:23 PM


In an appearance on "The O'Reilly Factor" on Tuesday Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) offered a strange defense of a stringent new Arizona immigration bill that could lead to racial profiling.

When asked by host Bill O'Reilly if he was comfortable with the possibility of racial profiling, McCain said he wold be "very sorry" if it happened, but suggested it's justified because of "the people whose homes and property are being violated. It's the drive-by that -- the drivers of cars with illegals in it that are intentionally causing accidents on the freeway."

McCain added: "Look, our border is not secured. Our citizens are not safe." But the Arizona senator did not provide any additional details to back up his assertion about cars carrying illegal immigrants "intentionally causing accidents."

Watch a clip McCain's appearance:


Here's the transcript:

O'REILLY: Now, next week, the governor is going to sign, we believe, a very stringent state law that gives the police in Arizona very, very broad authority to question people. And a lot of people say it's going to be racial profiling. You're going to look for Hispanics, question them, to see if they're here legally or not. And it's just not fair. And you say why?
MCCAIN: I say that the federal responsibilities have not been fulfilled. Therefore, the states are acting -- the state of Arizona is acting and doing what they feel they need to do in light of the fact that the federal government is not fulfilling its fundamental responsibility to secure our borders. Our borders must be secure.

O'REILLY: But what about the racial profiling? You know that's going to happen has to happen.

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MCCAIN: I hope -- I would be very sorry that if some of that happens. And I regret it, but I also regret the -- really, it's not just the murder of Robert Krantz. It's the people whose homes and property are being violated. It's the drive-by that -- the drivers of cars with illegals in it that are intentionally causing accidents on the freeway. Look, our border is not secured. Our citizens are not safe.
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Re: Illegal Immigrants Intentionally Causing Freeway Accidents

Postby Simulist » Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:07 pm

John McCain is full of shit.
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Postby Pele'sDaughter » Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:20 pm

I guess he doesn't think these lies over very well. How exactly would illegal immigrants carry out their dastardly plot. Do they steal cars and drive headlong into traffic? Maybe they run onto the highway in front of trucks? Put nails on the road? Throw rocks at cars? :shrug:
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Postby StarmanSkye » Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:34 pm

Not just that, but the shit he's full of is bulked-up with steroids and loaded with toxic sludge.

And too right his lies are spontaniously-ejected idiocies, ill-thought moronic bluffings that appeal to the lowest-common-denominator set, pandering to bloviated, bigotted assumptions.

It's not like his audience have a clue about REAL world threats, dangers and outrages.
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Re: Illegal Immigrants Intentionally Causing Freeway Accidents

Postby Nordic » Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:39 pm

Actually this WAS happening a few years back in Los Angeles. Poor immigrants were involved with very many deliberate accidents on the freeways here, promised a percentage of the resulting insurance claim and lawsuit. These immigrants were being "hired" (so to speak) by these crooks, who would send them onto the freeways, with the instructions to pull in front of a big rig, that was sure to have some big corporate logo on it (thus presumably guaranteeing full insurance and deep pockets) then were slamming on their brakes and causing wrecks.

No kidding.

It ended when a couple of them were killed and a full investigation revealed what was going on.

This was quite some time ago, but in McCain's mind I'm sure it seems like yesterday. :)
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Re: Illegal Immigrants Intentionally Causing Freeway Accidents

Postby Simulist » Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:42 pm

StarmanSkye wrote:Not just that, but the shit he's full of is bulked-up with steroids and loaded with toxic sludge.

And too right his lies are spontaniously-ejected idiocies, ill-thought moronic bluffings that appeal to the lowest-common-denominator set, pandering to bloviated, bigotted assumptions.

It's not like his audience have a clue about REAL world threats, dangers and outrages.

Yes. The thing that bothers me so much about John McCain is that he uses the worst of the human traits (xenophobia, intolerance, and even outright racist hate on occasion) to herd the herd into accepting ever-increasing limits on their collective freedom.

John McCain is a tool — and a particularly dull blunt instrument at that.
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Re: Illegal Immigrants Intentionally Causing Freeway Accidents

Postby elfismiles » Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:35 pm

That's just what I was thinking of Nordic:

http://www.google.com/search?q=insuranc ... +accidents
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=in ... +immigrant

There are so many scams like this.


Plot: Vernon, Florida (1981)

For his second documentary feature, Errol Morris originally set out to chronicle Vernon, FL, because it had the highest rate of a particular sort of insurance fraud -- dismemberment performed for profit -- than any other place in the country. Nothing of that original idea survives in the film itself. Instead, Morris seems perfectly content letting the camera roll in front of the other eccentrics he found there, using his trademark approach of simply letting his subjects do the talking themselves. Many of them exhibit unusually close relationships to animals, including a turtle keeper, a worm farmer, and most memorably, an extremely enthusiastic turkey hunter. Other highlights include a sermon offering a close reading on the significance of the word "therefore" and a couple with a jar of sand from White Sands, NM, that they insist, thanks to radiation, has begun to multiply. ~ Keith Phipps, All Movie Guide

http://www.ovguide.com/movies_tv/vernon_florida.htm



Some folk think the infamous Austin Yogurt Shop Murders were a case like this:

THE YOGURT SHOP MURDERS
by Mack White
http://www.mackwhite.com/Yogurt1.html
http://www.mackwhite.com/Yogurt2.html
http://www.mackwhite.com/yogurt3.html

And I've read that Robert McNamara was involved in variations of this type of fraud in mining operations overseas. Basicly the mining company over-insures a particular vehicle or person for catastrophic death and dismemberment and then they stage an "accident" and collect bookoo bucks.

And there is that theory applied to 911 as well...

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=91 ... +hawkscafe

Nordic wrote:Actually this WAS happening a few years back in Los Angeles. Poor immigrants were involved with very many deliberate accidents on the freeways here, promised a percentage of the resulting insurance claim and lawsuit. These immigrants were being "hired" (so to speak) by these crooks, who would send them onto the freeways, with the instructions to pull in front of a big rig, that was sure to have some big corporate logo on it (thus presumably guaranteeing full insurance and deep pockets) then were slamming on their brakes and causing wrecks.

No kidding.

It ended when a couple of them were killed and a full investigation revealed what was going on.

This was quite some time ago, but in McCain's mind I'm sure it seems like yesterday. :)
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Re: Illegal Immigrants Intentionally Causing Freeway Accidents

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:49 pm

Simulist wrote:
StarmanSkye wrote:Not just that, but the shit he's full of is bulked-up with steroids and loaded with toxic sludge.

And too right his lies are spontaniously-ejected idiocies, ill-thought moronic bluffings that appeal to the lowest-common-denominator set, pandering to bloviated, bigotted assumptions.

It's not like his audience have a clue about REAL world threats, dangers and outrages.

Yes. The thing that bothers me so much about John McCain is that he uses the worst of the human traits (xenophobia, intolerance, and even outright racist hate on occasion) to herd the herd into accepting ever-increasing limits on their collective freedom.

John McCain is a tool — and a particularly dull blunt instrument at that.



For the record I am not an anti-latino!
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Re: Illegal Immigrants Intentionally Causing Freeway Accidents

Postby Simulist » Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:00 pm

seemslikeadream wrote:
Simulist wrote:
StarmanSkye wrote:Not just that, but the shit he's full of is bulked-up with steroids and loaded with toxic sludge.

And too right his lies are spontaniously-ejected idiocies, ill-thought moronic bluffings that appeal to the lowest-common-denominator set, pandering to bloviated, bigotted assumptions.

It's not like his audience have a clue about REAL world threats, dangers and outrages.

Yes. The thing that bothers me so much about John McCain is that he uses the worst of the human traits (xenophobia, intolerance, and even outright racist hate on occasion) to herd the herd into accepting ever-increasing limits on their collective freedom.

John McCain is a tool — and a particularly dull blunt instrument at that.



For the record I am not an anti-latino!

Nor are you particularly clever.
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Re: Illegal Immigrants Intentionally Causing Freeway Accidents

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:09 pm

Simulist wrote:
seemslikeadream wrote:
Simulist wrote:
StarmanSkye wrote:Not just that, but the shit he's full of is bulked-up with steroids and loaded with toxic sludge.

And too right his lies are spontaniously-ejected idiocies, ill-thought moronic bluffings that appeal to the lowest-common-denominator set, pandering to bloviated, bigotted assumptions.

It's not like his audience have a clue about REAL world threats, dangers and outrages.

Yes. The thing that bothers me so much about John McCain is that he uses the worst of the human traits (xenophobia, intolerance, and even outright racist hate on occasion) to herd the herd into accepting ever-increasing limits on their collective freedom.

John McCain is a tool — and a particularly dull blunt instrument at that.



For the record I am not an anti-latino!

Nor are you particularly clever.


fuck you
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Re: Illegal Immigrants Intentionally Causing Freeway Accidents

Postby Simulist » Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:19 pm

seemslikeadream wrote:
Simulist wrote:
seemslikeadream wrote:
Simulist wrote:
StarmanSkye wrote:Not just that, but the shit he's full of is bulked-up with steroids and loaded with toxic sludge.

And too right his lies are spontaniously-ejected idiocies, ill-thought moronic bluffings that appeal to the lowest-common-denominator set, pandering to bloviated, bigotted assumptions.

It's not like his audience have a clue about REAL world threats, dangers and outrages.

Yes. The thing that bothers me so much about John McCain is that he uses the worst of the human traits (xenophobia, intolerance, and even outright racist hate on occasion) to herd the herd into accepting ever-increasing limits on their collective freedom.

John McCain is a tool — and a particularly dull blunt instrument at that.



For the record I am not an anti-latino!

Nor are you particularly clever.


fuck you

Look, I didn't intimate — or even think — you were an anti-Latino. Neither did I suggest or even intimate on the other thread that you were an anti-semite; in fact, none of this even crossed my mind.

After commenting on the history of U.S. intelligence working in the so-called "fringe community" on another thread, I was a little surprised by your question to me about Graham Hancock and whether I thought he was an anti-semite (I had mentioned neither — at all), and when I dropped in over here, and saw that you were responding to me that you were not an anti-Latino (I hadn't mentioned you here either), I didn't appreciate it.

So, "Fuck me?" Okay. Not a particularly clever remark on your part either, I guess.

It is a little strange to watch you take such umbrage to my comment about the history of U.S. intelligence working in the "fringe community" though.
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Postby Nordic » Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:26 pm

Nor are you particularly clever.


And what kind of a response did you expect from that, simulist?

I don't understand where this thing is coming from, but it seems that SLAD responded the way most people would to such a comment.

Just my two cents.
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Postby Simulist » Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:27 pm

Nordic wrote:
Nor are you particularly clever.


And what kind of a response did you expect from that, simulist?

I don't understand where this thing is coming from, but it seems that SLAD responded the way most people would to such a comment.

Just my two cents.

Please take a look at the exchange between us over two threads.

Had this been the only exchange between us, I would agree with you completely — but it wasn't.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:30 pm

Simulist wrote:
It is a little strange to watch you take such umbrage to my comment about the history of U.S. intelligence working in the "fringe community" though.



This is all about being labeled an anti-semite here again, nothing to do with "fringe community" Jesus get off your paranoid kick. I am pissed at this anti-semitc bullshit nothing more nothing less. Sorry if you got caught in the crossfire. I feel I must from now on to qualify all posts with the phrase I am not, never was, never will be a holocaust denier .......... whatever
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Re: Illegal Immigrants Intentionally Causing Freeway Accidents

Postby Simulist » Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:34 pm

seemslikeadream wrote:
Simulist wrote:
It is a little strange to watch you take such umbrage to my comment about the history of U.S. intelligence working in the "fringe community" though.



This is all about being labeled an anti-semite here again, nothing to do with "fringe community" Jesus get off your paranoid kick. I am pissed at this anti-semitc bullshit nothing more nothing less. Sorry if you got caught in the crossfire

I didn't realize that you had ever been labeled an antisemite, SLAD. And I can understand your sensitivity to anything even sounding like you might be getting that treatment again.

Honestly, I had no idea where the hostility was coming from that I thought I was perceiving, and that's why I responded with that terse remark.

Thank you for explaining. I don't think any such thing of you — at all. And I sincerely appreciate the understanding you've given me.

Please excuse my remark then also.
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