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stefano wrote:Eh? Why is it a waste of time, and why don't you think he 'believes in' it? What does that even mean?Stephen Morgan wrote:Just another bloke wasting his time on meditation, although in his case he undoubtedly doesn't believe in it himself.
'Starving yogi' astounds Indian scientists
Yesterday, 12:14 pm
Rajesh Joshi
An 83-year-old Indian holy man who says he has spent seven decades without food or water has astounded a team of military doctors who studied him during a two-week observation period.
Prahlad Jani spent a fortnight in a hospital in the western India state of Gujarat under constant surveillance from a team of 30 medics equipped with cameras and closed circuit television.
During the period, he neither ate nor drank and did not go to the toilet.
"We still do not know how he survives," neurologist Sudhir Shah told reporters after the end of the experiment. "It is still a mystery what kind of phenomenon this is."
The long-haired and bearded yogi was sealed in a hospital in the city of Ahmedabad in a study initiated by India's Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), the state defence and military research institute.
The DRDO hopes that the findings, set to be released in greater detail in several months, could help soldiers survive without food and drink, assist astronauts or even save the lives of people trapped in natural disasters.
"(Jani's) only contact with any kind of fluid was during gargling and bathing periodically during the period," G. Ilavazahagan, director of India's Defence Institute of Physiology and Allied Sciences (DIPAS), said in a statement.
Jani has since returned to his village near Ambaji in northern Gujarat where he will resume his routine of yoga and meditation. He says that he was blessed by a goddess at a young age, which gave him special powers.
During the 15-day observation, which ended on Thursday, the doctors took scans of Jani's organs, brain, and blood vessels, as well as doing tests on his heart, lungs and memory capacity.
"The reports were all in the pre-determined safety range through the observation period," Shah told reporters at a press conference last week.
Other results from DNA analysis, molecular biological studies and tests on his hormones, enzymes, energy metabolism and genes will take months to come through.
"If Jani does not derive energy from food and water, he must be doing that from energy sources around him, sunlight being one," said Shah.
"As medical practitioners we cannot shut our eyes to possibilities, to a source of energy other than calories."
stefano wrote:From the years of 1922 until her death in 1962, Therese Neumann apparently consumed no food other than The Holy Eucharist, and claimed to have drunk no water from 1926 until her death.
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The renowned yogi then suggests, "I see you realize that energy flows to your body from the ether, sun, and air." Therese then smiles and expresses her happiness that he understands the way she lives.
Simulist wrote:stefano wrote:From the years of 1922 until her death in 1962, Therese Neumann apparently consumed no food other than The Holy Eucharist, and claimed to have drunk no water from 1926 until her death.
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The renowned yogi then suggests, "I see you realize that energy flows to your body from the ether, sun, and air." Therese then smiles and expresses her happiness that he understands the way she lives.
That is extremely fascinating, Stefano. What's more, I believe it.
Also, I think the theory of the ether was the "baby" that got thrown out along with the "bathwater" a long time ago, unfortunately.
[As a (very) side note, I knew some Jesuits during college that used to bake their own eucharistic bread... well, before the bishop had a fit over what they were doing, and stopped them. They put such things as sunflower seeds, raisins, honey, even carob (to simulate chocolate chips) in the dough. Although that is definitely not what this story is talking about or what Therese Neumann ate, I can definitely see how someone might be able to live on that, if it were.]
william blake, from song of experience wrote:The Little Vagabond
Dear mother, dear mother, the church is cold,
But the ale-house is healthy and pleasant and warm;
Besides I can tell where I am used well,
Such usage in Heaven will never do well.
But if at the church they would give us some ale,
And a pleasant fire our souls to regale,
We'd sing and we'd pray all the live-long day,
Nor ever once wish from the church to stray.
Then the parson might preach, and drink, and sing,
And we'd be as happy as birds in the spring;
And modest Dame Lurch, who is always at church,
Would not have bandy children, nor fasting, nor birch.
And God, like a father rejoicing to see
His children as pleasant and happy as he,
Would have no more quarrel with the Devil or the barrel,
But kiss him, and give him both drink and apparel.
Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:OP article is a psyops decoy.
Current issue of Harpers Magazine on the stands has a cover story about
Wall Street fomenting mass hunger around the world.
Simulist wrote:It isn't — and that's what makes it such a perfect psyop: it's undetectable!
UK mulling food vouchers distribution
The unemployed whose benefits have been cut off by government will receive food vouchers by charities supported by the government to make up for the cuts in welfare spending.
Secretary of State for Work and Pensions, Iain Duncan Smith, has given his department's executive arm, JobCentre Plus the go-ahead to distribute tickets that can be traded for food parcels.
>snip<
slomo wrote:How exactly is some offbeat story about a Jain mystic eating nothing - a story which the vast majority of Americans will disbelieve anyway - going to stop people from learning about world hunger?
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