MSNBC Censors WTC7 video during interview w/ BYU Prof Jones?

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Re: Words of Wisdom

Postby proldic » Wed Nov 16, 2005 11:39 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Your alternative strategy is to lie down and die.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br>I think if you read my posts there's no way in hell you could possibly claim that is true. <br><br>Not only have I presented multiple credible alternatives, <br><br>I've laid them out in step-by-step detail. <br><br>And provided detailed examples of successful models.<br><br>But, then again, what level of deep political analysis should I expect from someone who claims that Noam Chomsky has been the subject of "the worst smear"? <p></p><i></i>
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missing my point, guys

Postby AnnaLivia » Wed Nov 16, 2005 11:41 pm

i very much appreciate the inputs, but like i said, this letter is not at all directed to TC. oh yeah, i'll send him a copy, but i don't give one damn what TC thinks. he by god ain't gonna listen to me. (i do care what his bosses think, if it helps get his voice off the air, hence the threat to lose a viewer. they don't want that out on the net.)<br><br>but already dissatisfied people might. the letter is meant for the blogosphere...who are the people who pass it on to others. the idea is to get a message into people's minds, actually several messages are contained within my letter. like the fact that TC is gatekeeping. he is "stopping the truth".<br><br>"what? you say there are people out there i thought were bringing me the news who are actually doing the opposite? omg, i didn't know!"<br><br>i can't just say that word, gatekeeping, because Joe Worker doesn't know what it means. so i don't say it. i show it, instead. TC is working against you, people.<br><br>i paint him as un-american, with his own words. i drive a wedge between him and people who have watched him. "hey, yeah, he works for one of those corporations that's making plenty of jack, while out here busting my hump."<br><br>people really do have questions about 9/11, and they want to get answers. all i have to do is show them how TC is working against them.<br><br>that's the kind of strategy progressives have to learn. it's called framing. think of it that way, and keep suggestions coming? i'd like to get this out there soon. <p></p><i></i>
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*Sigh*

Postby Bismillah » Wed Nov 16, 2005 11:44 pm

No, forgive me, proldic; I don't read all your posts and I don't feel obliged to. (Should I?) Anyway, stick to the point at issue: how would YOU suggest reacting to the Carlson interview?<br><br>(Maybe you think TV stations don't care about advertising revenue. And maybe you think Noam Chomsky is a CIA stooge. Nothing would surprise me. But do tell.) <p></p><i></i>
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Re: missing my point, guys

Postby Qutb » Wed Nov 16, 2005 11:45 pm

"Nobody else believes this is all a a farce?"<br><br>Raises hand. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Slimmouse is a Nazi

Postby proldic » Wed Nov 16, 2005 11:46 pm

Yeah, NO WAY could "Aye-rabs" living in caves pull off anything that requires any skill or sophistication.<br><br>After all, they's just "Aye-rabs".<br><br>Not like those crafty conniving talmud merchants, huh?<br><br>Not to mention the fact that those "caves" were air-conditioned military bunkers with satellite communications, sophisticated ventilation systems, and high-tech perimeter security, built by Brown & Root for the CIA. <p></p><i></i>
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"talmud merchants"(sic)???

Postby Bismillah » Wed Nov 16, 2005 11:50 pm

What on earth are you on about? Who are you addressing? Who are you talking about?<br><br>And you still haven't answered the question(s). <p></p><i></i>
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Re: times-a-wasting, ignore the nazis

Postby AnnaLivia » Wed Nov 16, 2005 11:56 pm

what's the goal here, friends? do you want to help reach people with truth, or do you want to fight each other? i am giving you some important tips about strategy, have you noticed? it took me years to learn, btw. <br><br>is anybody understanding what i'm saying? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: ZEIG HEIL.

Postby slimmouse » Thu Nov 17, 2005 12:04 am

<br><br> More riotous thinly disguised critical thinking. <br> <br><br> Here we go again.<br><br> If youre going to quote me, I think youd be better with a quote of mine, as opposed to the "Talmud merchant" reference, none of which was of course mine. But Ive long since gotten used to this modus operandi from you and your team Proldic.<br><br> And If you think Im a Nazi. Good for you. Youre wrong of course, but Im fully confident that my denial wont stop you throwing your vile accusations, misquotes and smears around.<br><br> At least Mel Brooks had a sense of humour.<br><br> <br> As it is, it would more than adequately confirm my suspicion that you are some kind of monitor for the "ADL" or someone similar. <br><br> ADL. The ultimate Oxymoron.<br><br> Touche.<br><br> As for the 19 Arabs stuff, ( I'll use Arabs now Im speaking in my tones, not the Nazi Neocons and other High ups - previously refferred to as the PTB in the US govnt ) Ive got a major Means Motive Opportunity problem with that theory. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: times-a-wasting, ignore the nazis

Postby slimmouse » Thu Nov 17, 2005 12:10 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>is anybody understanding what i'm saying?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br> Anna. You send your letter. I think its a fine piece of work.<br><br> That is in no way meant to be patronising BTW <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re:

Postby AnnaLivia » Thu Nov 17, 2005 12:29 am

i really want to turn this thread away from the CD debate and the other stuff, which there are other threads for. i don't even care about the prof or about CD in this thread. i want to use Mr. Tucker Carlson to wake people up not to just him, but to the whole way gatekeeping deprives people of truth! and to anything else we can pack into this opportunity.<br><br>but yes i want to send the letter out soon! c'mon, guys...what have i left out? <p></p><i></i>
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letter to tucker carlson

Postby greencrow0 » Thu Nov 17, 2005 12:49 am

<br>Dear Tucker Carlson:<br><br>I watched your show last night wherein you interviewed Dr. Stephen Jones, physics professor, from BYU who says that the WTC was a controlled demolition.<br><br>Your performance on that program was very unprofessional. You did not allow Mr. Jones the decency of a polite interview, in fact, you were very rude.<br><br>There are millions of people world wide who are very interested in this topic and, because of a Main Stream Media self-censorship on the topic, are starved for information. You carried on with this strategy of keeping Americans in the dark as to all the controversy that is swirling around on the Internet and by word of mouth about the truths of 9/11.<br><br>If you are unwilling to allow the [at least] 50% of your population [who want an objective investigation into 9/11]to satisfy their interest in this topic then you should be reasonable and bow out--and let a more professional journalist take your spot on the airwaves.<br><br>Regards,<br><br>Greencrow<br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Tucker Carlson attacks 9-11 truthseekers

Postby LibertyorDeath » Thu Nov 17, 2005 1:04 am

Sounds like a confession to me.<br><br>Can't stand the smarmy little f <p></p><i></i>
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Mother Tucker!

Postby st4 » Thu Nov 17, 2005 1:19 am

From 911Blogger.com:<br><br> <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Wednesday, November 16, 2005<br> <br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Tucker's Challenge - Help Educate Tucker Carlson About 9/11</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br> Tucker's Challenge<br><br>This in reference to <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.911blogger.com/2005/11/tucker-carlson-says-911-skeptics.html">last night's show</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> and his <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8063563/#051116a">followup article today</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->.<br><br>............................................................................<br><br> <br>Tucker Carlson is either as silly as his bow tie would indicate, or he's looking for a way to expose the truth behind 9/11. Today he posted "9/11 Theorist Clearly Hits A Nerve," regarding public response to his Monday night show with BYU Professor, Steven Jones.<br><br> Carlson first insinuates Jones is "insane," then accuses him of being unable to articulate his hypothesis, calling him "an epically bad guest." Apparently, Jones was expected to clearly articulate the hypothesis presented in a 26-page scientific paper in six minutes, minus Carlson's repeated interruptions promoting the official line. (Let's also not forget that 'The Situation' refused to show footage of the WTC7 collapse, which would have essentially made the case despite Carlson's best attempts to prevent Jones from doing so.)<br><br> "We've never had an e-mail response like the one we got," Carlson says, "...the overwhelming majority wrote to thank me for my 'courage' in putting him on, and to complain that we didn't give him more time to explain the conspiracy. In other words, a lot of people seem to think it's possible that the U.S. government had a hand in bringing down the World Trade Center buildings."<br><br> No kidding?<br><br> Carlson then tones down his rant from what he originally said on the show last night, (<!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.911blogger.com/2005/11/tucker-carlson-says-911-skeptics.html">video here</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->) when he moves into his attack on 9/11 skeptics. "If you really...even considered it a possibility - how could you continue to live here? You couldn't. You'd leave the United States on the next available flight and not come back. You'd have no choice."<br><br> I guess he missed Nebraska Senator Chuck Hagel's comments yesterday: "To question your government is not unpatriotic – to not question your government is unpatriotic. America owes its men and women in uniform a policy worthy of their sacrifices." Or perhaps he slept through the history class lessons about true patriots who have fought for their country by exposing and demanding accountability for traitorous acts.<br><br> The significance of this little column, in addition to recognizing on mainstream television that there are a LOT of Americans who "connect" with Jones in demanding 9/11 truth, however, is saved for the last paragraph:<br><br> "So if evidence ever does arise that the government lied substantially about what happened on September 11th, we'll be on it immediately. I promise."<br><br> Now there is a challenge we can accept! I know, firsthand, the level of true patriotism and commitment among the 9/11 truth community, and I'm willing to make a promise, too: Mr. Carlson is about to receive more evidence than he ever even imagined might exist. Help me hold him to that promise...<br><br> Oh, no, I would never suggest you subject yourself to the pain of enduring mainstream "news" programming on a regular basis by watching 'The Situation.' But I can assure you, and Tucker, that it will be monitored, and we'll let you know whether he keeps his promise!<br><br> In the meantime, as he requests at the end of his column, "Keep those e-mails coming to Tucker@msnbc.com." <br><br>............................................................................<br><br><br> Also, Jon Gold has pointed out that you may reach the secretary of 'The Situation' by calling 201-583-5000 and asking for 'The Situation'.<br><br> Link to article:<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.911blogger.com/2005/11/tuckers-challenge-help-educate-tucker.html">www.911blogger.com/2005/1...ucker.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Keep it short!

Postby LibertyorDeath » Thu Nov 17, 2005 1:20 am

Beautiful <p></p><i></i>
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Re:

Postby AnnaLivia » Thu Nov 17, 2005 2:47 am

greencrow, great letter. hope you sent it! i'll see if i can work anything in. i think i should stay focused on TC's saying some people should leave the country. that's un-american values. <br><br>st4, thanks for the update. wow. they received more letters over this than they've ever had before. that's big.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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