House of the Red Shield

[heath7]

It was rather nice to see the response to the JFK assassination forum; it seems old conspiracies never die. Yay!<br><br>A poster in the JFK forum mentioned an even older conspiracy that still beguiles the hades out of me, and I thought it'd be great to hear all there is to know about the house of the red shield, the house of Rothschild, from a rigourously intuitive perspectives of course.<br><br>Its actually been years since I've read anything about the Rothschilds, but they've always been an interest at the back of my mind. <br><br>I remember this much about them: Mayer Amschel Rothschild stole money from a duke or archduke back in the 1700s, which is how the fortune reportedly got started; Amschel had five sons who each opened for business in banking in (correct me if I'm wrong on any of this, I remember Amschel started the original bank himself in Munich) London, Paris, Munich, a city in Switzerland, and a city in Italy. The Rothschilds took control of, at the very least, English currency when Wellington defeated Napolean at Waterloo. Nathan Rothschild accomplished this by knowing before anybody else, who the victor was. Its possible that such information enabled them to control other currencies at the time as well. The Rothschilds have some freaky-deaky heritage where they must marry their cousins to keep the family small, and the fortune unimaginably large; they also must not allow for any outside accounting of their fortune. The Rothschilds are the principal beneficiaries of every major state-owned bank in the western hemishere, including the United States Federal Reserve, which means they basically own all western currencies, and by proxy all currencies in the world! They're very low-key. Despite being rich beyond anybody's wildest dreams, you never hear about them on the nightly news. The last time I heard their name on the news one of them was assassinated in Paris, I believe, sometime back. I definetely got the vibe that these are the cats who are at the apex of dominion over the world, and no one even knows they exist. When people talk offensively about Jews trying to rule the world, could it be that they're talking about the Jewish Rothschilds?<br><br>Of course this is an overly simple primer on their clan; I've left out lots of names and means. Left to be filled in, I hope, by all of you.<br><br>So, do they really rule the world?<br> <p></p><i></i>

[DrDebugDU]

Yep. They own the world!<br><br>I just posted it yesterday. The Federal Reserve in the US is owned by:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>* Chase Manhattan, New York (part of J.P. Morgan (3) )<br>* Goldman, Sachs, New York<br>* Israel Moses Seif, Italy<br>* Kuhn Loeb, New York (connected to Warburg and Rothschild)<br>* Lehman Brothers, New York<br>* Rothschild, London<br>* Rothschild, Berlin<br>* Lazard Brothers, Paris<br>* Warburg, Amsterdam (connected to Rothschild)<br>* Warburg, Hamburg (connected to Rothschild)<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://p097.ezboard.com/frigorousintuitionfrm7.showMessage?topicID=624.topic">p097.ezboard.com/frigorou...=624.topic</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>So not only are the Rothschilds the biggest scammers in the world, they control the US dollar. They also seem to control the Pound. So I was wondering about the Euro and indeed they control the Euro. And they control Gold.<br><br>Summary:<br>1) US Dollar<br>2) British Pound<br>3) Euro<br>4) Gold<br><br>So whatever happens in the world, Rothschild always wins.<br><br>it's an amazing company. Their real name is Bauer but Rothschild (Red Shield) sounded a lot more nobel. They used to intermarry with their cousins to keep the fortune in the family. They started financing Napoleon and then started to finance England as well. They played the English stockmarket on Waterloo and then funded the rebuilding of France.<br><br>During the American Civil War they funded both sides and I found the following link:<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>History reveals that the Rothschilds were heavily involved in financing both sides in the Civil War. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Lincoln put a damper on their activities</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> when, in 1862 and 1863, he refused to pay the exorbitant rates of interest demanded by the Rothschilds and issued constitutionally-authorized, interest free United States notes. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>For this and other acts of patriotism Lincoln was shot down</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> in cold-blood by John Wilkes Booth on April 14, 1865, just five days after Lee surrendered to Grant at Appomattox Court House, Virginia.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/slavery.htm">www.biblebelievers.org.au/slavery.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>They killed Abraham Lincoln for standing in their way as well according to that document. <p></p><i></i>

[DrDebugDU]

<!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="font-size:medium;">How the price of Gold is fixed</span><!--EZCODE FONT END--><br><br>To this day, N.M. Rothschild & Sons of London still lists as its primary business the selling and buying of treasuries and gold bullion. N.M. Rothschild helps fix the price of gold in London each day through the LBMA. <br><br>A recent <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>London Times</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> articles explained that the gold price fix ceremony where five men (including a Rothschild) talk on their phones for 10 minutes, then lower tiny Union Jacks sitting on their desks, thereby fixing London's gold price each day. <br><br>This ceremony takes place at 10:30 a.m. and 3 p.m., like clockwork, the same way, in the same place, and with mostly the same firms participating since the first gold fixing was enacted at Rothschild in St. Swithin's Lane on Friday Sept. 12, 1919. <br><br>The company's name is also associated with many gold mining companies (e.g. Trillion Resources Ltd. and other Canadian mining companies).<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.wealth4freedom.com/Rothschilds3.htm">www.wealth4freedom.com/Rothschilds3.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>There's also the question of their wealth. The Rothschild don't say how much money they have. Some say that they are richer than Bill Gates. Many times over...<br><br>Morton (1962) noted that the Rothschild wealth was estimated at over $6 billion US in 1850. Not a significant amount in today's dollars; however, consider the potential future value compounded over 147 years!<br><br>Taking $6 billion (and assuming no erosion of the wealth base) and compounding that figure at various returns on investment (a conservative range of 4% to 8%) would suggest the following net worth of the Rothschild family enterprise:<br><br>$1.9 trillion US (@ 4%)<br>$7.8 trillion US (@ 5%)<br>$31.5 trillion US (@ 6%)<br>$125,189.1 trillion US (@ 7%)<br>$491,409.0 trillion US (@ 8%)<br><br>We shall never have a full accounting of their wealth. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>All we can go on is Morton's (1962) comment that their wealth is "ineffable as always."</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p097.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=drdebugdu>DrDebugDU</A> at: 7/14/05 5:51 pm<br></i>

[Seventhsonjr]

Jesus, Doc, you gotta link to right weing disinformation sites and BIBLEBELIEVERS to back up this antiSemitic tripe?<br><br>Please take a look at my post HERE: <br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://p097.ezboard.com/frigorousintuitionfrm7.showMessage?topicID=624.topic">p097.ezboard.com/frigorou...=624.topic</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>for my critique.<br><br>Are there bankers who are Jewish who are in cahoots with the Bushzis and the Rockefellers etc.<br><br>Jesus yes there are.<br><br>But I know from experience and research that this is predominantly a WASP Anglo-German -American alliance of antiSemites who do business with those who have no scruples.<br><br>The rigfht wing, especially the fundies and the disinformationsist, WANT folks like posters and lurkers here to look at the straw men, the Rothschilds, the Jews, the Zionists, the Commies, the Socialists, the "Marxist jew liars" who want global communism.<br><br>It is largely disinformation of the most nefarious kind and feeds into antiSemitism and confuses a LOT of the issues.<br><br>Are there collaborationist fascists who are Jewish who would sell out the Israelis as well as all Jews to line their own pockets with the Nazi blood money of the Bushes and Nazis? Sho'nuff. Kissinger, Wolfowitz, Sharon, Perle, PNACers, etc. come to mind.<br><br>It happened with the Judenrat and the capos too. Ask Hannah Arendt.<br><br>But to buy into the tripe that it is a conspiracy of a handful of powerful Jews is a complete misunderstanding of the facts,<br>.<br><br>These are fascists. There is nothing remotely Jewish or Christian among any of them (except maybe in their heritage).<br><br>They are the worshippers of Baal and Mammon. Filthy Lucre. Greed.<br><br>Be aware that this is a very old ploy to get people to look away from the WASP Yale/Harvard Wall Street connections towards those who are in coillusion with the Rockefellers et al.<br><br>But the Bushzis pull ALL the strings cause they control the death squads EVERYWHERE.<br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[mercator]

Seventhsonjr, excellent post (also the one on the Fed Reserve thread).<br> <p></p><i></i>

[albion]

well said Seventhson. those stale old conspiracies are like freakin' wallpaper! always in the background. <br><br>as you said, certainly plenty of truth there, but rothschilds are hardly the point these days. <p></p><i></i>

[Seventhson]

My reaction was to the concept that the Rothschilds "rule the world" or "own the world".<br><br>That is not the same as saying that some in the Rothschild financial empire are not seriously collaborators with the Nazi WASPS (and, no, not all WASPs are Nazis).<br><br>The WASPs who control the global paramilitaries and corporate miltaries and the regular armed services and intel networks have collaborators of ALL ethnicities and stripes and heritages.<br><br>I don't trust Sharpton or Jesse Jackson any more than I trust Sharon or Bushes or the Saudis (well, actually the latter three have power whereas Al and Jesse are, in my opinion, just powerless puppets for the Bushzis). I don't even need to mention the grotesquery of Colin Powell and Condoleeza (Chevron/Unocal)Rice to make this point.<br><br>Native Americans have their selloiuts too.<br><br>To state specifically that one Jewish family or one institution dominates - arguably in some above posts, MORE powerful than the Bushes- is part of the right wing disinfo meme which stirs hatred and conflict between groupd snf erthnicities.<br><br>The Bushes with their Ronald Reagan-like megalomaniac puppet Hitler honed this hate to a fine dagger point with the Horst Wessel song and the constant refrain about the international Jewish bankers ruining the world as well as the concept of subhuman "races" (the term "race" being another false propoganda meme) and the need to subjugate "subhuman" humanity to the supoerior Nordic supermen.<br><br>This is the meme which continues in Iraq, in Afghanistan, in Israel/Palestine, in Africa (especially the Congo), in Asia, in Latin America, in Eastern Europe/for,er Soviet Republics, and wherever there is profit and greed to be engaged in by treachery and brute force and terror by the WASP elites and their (according to them) "subhuman" lackies.<br><br>Jews who support this in finance or otherwise are merely collaborators of the same sort who helped load Jewish children into cattlecars in Poland and Germany and France. The Torah and the Prophets are full of such treachery.<br><br>To point out that some collaborators of the Bushzis are Jews is not a problem, in my opinion.<br><br>But to point at the Rothschilds or "socialist Jewish Marxists" as being the NWO puppetmasters BEHIND the Bushzis is simply very effective blackops propaganda if one is not adequately informed of this technique and the best known historic facts.<br><br>I understand the historic ties of the Rothschilds to nefarious Machiavellian financial schemes in centuries past (and even their ties to it today along with a lot of Jews and many others of all persuasions who will do anything for a piece of the Bushzi action).<br><br>But the argument made here with some vehemence and absolutism SEEMS to me to be pointing the accusatory fingers AWAY from the BFEE and its top WASP (and other) honchos.<br><br>But it needs to be said that those who collaborate with the crimes against humanity perpetrated by our executive and its "dark actors" throughout the military-intel and political/coproate system, are not doing anything which helps Jews or ANYONE.<br><br>To imply that it is all a Jewish conspiracy run by the Rothschilds just feeds into the total fakery of the Protocols of Zion propaganda myths and lies.<br><br>A close look will reveal that the masters of deception in these affairs come in many shades, but the predominant shade in the current Holocaust is WASP Anglo-German carrying on the goals and methods of the Third reich and transforming the globe (since the end of WWII) into a Guernica-like 4th Reich. Run by the people who believe themselves to be the master race.<br><br>Necrophiles, I call 'em. And delkusional and wicked misanthropes.<br><br>And the intel services and their committed citizen-agents globally know this already - and are almost as powerless as we are.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[dbeach]

most of my Jewish friends don't like bush and are not pleased with the current events unfolding in Iraq.<br><br>{my cousin is a Jew and he is the greatest guy ya ever would meet..and he is completley against the busheviks and <br>neo-cons..}<br><br>anglo ..nazi.. neo-cons..all have an agenda..to run the world in their vision with of course they being the controllers..many of the neo-cons studied with or were influenced by prof leo straus from U Chicago..<br><br>never met roctschild nor rockefeller but their names are showing up on many more than Christain sites..<br><br>Most Jews like most Americans if they knew the TRUTH about all these right wingers and the their leftie enablers would ..be ..UPSET to say the least<br><br><br>nobody is above critcism ..not the wasps rome jews arabs<br><br>we all suffer for this terror.<br><br>we are looking for answers.<br><br>the wealth of the planet is in the hands of very few families and most of em are not busy worshipping our Creator and living a spiritual life.<br><br>it not about roctschild being a Jew ..its about who is running the show...??<br><br>they say bush is a christain..well he don't even go to church and he sure dont' practice thou shall not kill<br><br>christians in name only..jews in name only<br><br>its class warfare.. the elites against the commoners<br><br>the privleged and their need for control and protection of their wealth vs the peasants/patriots<br><br>I would add this that the bush cabal is extremely dangerous and well connected with euro royalty and the elites..<br><br>Reading Amerian dynasty by kev phillips is a great eye opener<br><br>bush family is ALWAYS near the crime<br>NEVER the indicted criminal..<br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[greencrow0]

When I read the information posted earlier it always gets me riled to think about one family ruling the world or tying up all of its wealth.<br><br>But then I think about the Chinese....do the Rothchilds control the Chinese currency [the biggest economy in the world] or the Indian currency? Perhaps indirectly. This would seem hard to believe. Does anyone know?<br><br>GC<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 0] --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/alien.gif ALT="0]"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[greencrow0]

Here's a good site about the illuminati<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.illuminati-news.com/index3.htm">www.illuminati-news.com/index3.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Some of you may not have seen it yet. It has an enormous amount of information.<br><br>GC<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 0] --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/alien.gif ALT="0]"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

[heath7]

Why, because the Rothschilds are Jewish, does this have to be anti-semitic. Honestly, seventhson, I haven't heard you say anything but argue. I thought this discussion started about the fishy history of the Rothschild family, which is very fishy, and you shoot it down with no info, and act like 'move along now, nothing to see here'. I'd like to hear contrary viewpoints, but I'm not going to be convinced by anything without substance. <br><br>... And again, why does the Anti-Semite flag have to come flying out in this discussion? I see <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>absolutely</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> no cause for it. <p></p><i></i>

[dbeach]

Truth seeking is a tuff business..it hurts ...its confusing and controversial and face it ya ain't gonna hear it from CNN.<br><br>The truth you find could save your life or mine.<br><br><br>every thing needs to be examined.. <p></p><i></i>

[heath7]

The Bushes serve in public office, I hardly imagine this is how the most powerful men in the world do business. The Bushes are a history of high corruption and greed, but they are not the start all/end all. The greatest forces hide themselves from us. The Bushes are merely their servants. <br><br>dbeach made very nice, even headed responses. This stuff about Rothschilds is not coming from just right wing nazis, its all right there in history. <p></p><i></i>

[toscaveritas]

Actually, the first money came from business with the Landgrave of Hesse-Nassau, the first headquarter and bank were set up in Frankfurt, Germany.<br><br>Ironic, that the European Central Bank is also located in ......Frankfurt <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 0] --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/alien.gif ALT="0]"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

[dbeach]

<br>'american dynasty" by kev phillips lays out the history of bush<br><br>ole sam bush sold arms to the kaiser pre WW I he worked for the war deept..<br><br>bush is related to brit royalty and german ...his cousins are the queennie and her hubby<br><br>bush cabal has evolved from being a front to a power unto themselves<br><br>do not underestimate this corrupt family<br><br>ALWAYS near the crime<br>NEVER the indicted criminal<br><br><br>"Sarah, if the American people had ever known the truth about what we Bushes have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." <br><br>George Bush Senior speaking in an interview with <br>Sarah McClendon in December 1992 <p></p><i></i>