Who has what to hide about Luis Posada Carriles?

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Who has what to hide about Luis Posada Carriles?

Postby RebelYell » Fri Jul 22, 2005 10:29 pm

WHO HAS WHAT TO HIDE ABOUT LUIS POSADA CARRILES?<br>by Tom Crumpacker <br><br>Luis Posada's immigration case is now set for hearing before a Homeland Security judge in Texas on Aug. 29. On May 21 Secretary Rice indicated the Homeland case might go on for many months and his extradition would be determined on its completion. With motions and appeals and paid lawyers, this might mean years. A provision in the 1922 US-Venezuela extradition treaty says the custodial state can keep the alleged criminal until its own proceedings against him arising from crimes committed there are completed. <br>But surely a minor "crime" such as a traffic ticket or a failure to report to Homeland Security on entry is not what was contemplated. And even if Posada could somehow convince the Homeland judges of the validity of his spurious residency and asylum claims (that he is a US resident although he has lived abroad for 30 years; that he is entitled to asylum here although he has murdered scores of innocent people), he still should be extradited now to Venezuela because his migration status has nothing to do with extradition for trial for his alleged crime, murdering 73 innocent Cubana flight 455 passengers in 1976.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>So why not just send him to the extradition judge and be done with it? What's the reason for keeping him here? Delay for delay's sake? Aggravate the Venezuelan government? Weaken the US claim to be the world leader in its "war against terrorism"? None of these seem very convincing as motives, even for this Administration. According to recently declassified CIA reports ( National Security Archives, Book 153, FBI report 11/2/76 ), in custody after his Oct. 6, 1976 bombing of the Cubana civilian airliner, flight 455, Posada threatened through his co-conspirator Morales Navarette that if forced to talk, the Venezuelan government "would go down the tube" and there would be "another Watergate."</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <br><br>George Bush Senior, CIA Director at the time of the Cubana bombing, had previously appointed Ted Shackley as his Deputy Director for Special Operations. Since Bay of Pigs, Shackley had been in charge of the JM/Wave Miami CIA station which had been training anti-Castro extremists for possible invasion, then demolitions (Posada ran the school), biological warfare and murderous incursions into Cuba. In 1976 CIA had urged several violent US anti-Castro groups to join together under one umbrella organization called CORU. It was led by Orlando Bosch and took credit for the Letelier murders in Washington, DC in September.<br><br>Bush Senior has said he was not with the CIA before being appointed director by President Ford in early 1976. Joseph McBride in an article in The Nation of July 16, 1988 wrote: "A source with close connections to the intelligence community confirmed that Bush started working for the CIA in 1960 or 1961, using his oil business for clandestine activities." There's a memo from FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover to the State Department dated Nov. 28, 1963 concerning information developed by the Miami FBI office about groups in Miami seeking to blame the JFK murder on the Cuban government. It says the information was orally furnished on Nov. 23 to "George Bush of the CIA." Bush Senior was in Dallas then. As was another CIA operative, Chauncey Holt (now deceased), who identified Posada as being in Dealey Plaza at the time of the murder. <br><br>Other sources, among them CIA agent Marita Lorenz, placed Orlando Bosch and Guillermo Novo there. The question arises whether their presence there can be dismissed as coincidence. After all, Bosch, Posada's accomplice in the Cuban airline bombing, was pardoned by President Bush Senior in 1990 against the strong objection of his own Justice Department, which had implicated him in more than 70 terrorist crimes. And Guillermo Novo and Posada were just last year pardoned on another bombing charge and released by the US-friendly outgoing president of Panama. Yet another anti-Castro extremist, Felix Rodriguez, who killed Ernesto Guevara and worked with Posada in the Iran-Contra supply network, has long been a Bush Senior personal friend. <br><br>The official versions of Watergate and JFK murder don't make a lot of sense when one considers motivations of the supposed actors. It's now clear that Nixon ordered the burglary of Democratic National Headquarters in 1972. But what was he looking for at such great risk? In his book on Watergate, Staff Chief H. R. Haldeman wrote that when Nixon was caught on tape talking about the risk that a Watergate probe could "blow the whole Bay of Pigs thing," he was actually referring to the JFK murder, not the invasion of Cuba. As Vice President in 1960 (a political protégé of Senator Prescott Bush), Nixon had supervised the preparation of the invasion. It seems odd he would confuse these events if they were unrelated. Moreover, what could be "blown" about the Bay of Pigs that was not already known? <br><br>And why did Lee Harvey Oswald kill JFK? The Warren Commission and the subsequent Congressional committees could not come up with a motive. In an effort at the time of the murder to blame the Cuban government, a photo of Oswald was spread across US newspapers showing him on a New Orleans street holding a "Fair Play for Cuba Committee" sign. But why were there no other members of the New Orleans committee? Why did Oswald give the address of the committee as 544 Camp St., which was the side entrance for the offices of Sergio Arcacha Smith and Guy Banister, both rabid anti-Castro extremists? Why were anti-Castro Cubans often seen there? Why did Oswald spend much of his time there? Why was Allen Dulles, the CIA Director who planned the Bay of Pigs and was subsequently fired by JFK, put on the Warren Commission? Why did CIA misinform the Commission on so many key evidentiary matters? The official answers to these questions seem to be "blowin' in the wind." It's like a jigsaw puzzle with half the pieces missing.<br><br>In an oligarchy where the important decisions are made in secret by a power elite, where the mainstream media is used to manipulate rather than inform, it's often difficult for the public to distinguish actual from virtual reality. <br> <br>In the fall of 1963, JFK was not relying much on CIA intelligence or opinions regarding Cuba. Negotiations (supposedly secret) were about to start between US and Cuba to possibly normalize relations. JFK's conditions were that Cuba distance itself from the Soviet Union and stop aiding revolutionary movements in Latin America, to which Castro seemed amenable.<br><br>A key part of Allen Dulles's Bay of Pigs plan was "Operation 40." They were 40 CIA agents, mostly gunmen, whose job was to kill the leading members of Cuba's government. Some, like Posada, had previously worked in enforcement for the Batista regime. Prior to the invasion they were waiting in Dominican Republic. Their boat took off for Cuba but turned around when informed the invasion was failing. They returned to the US, and, unbeknownst to JFK, Operation 40 continued on. For years and decades, with some changes in names and personnel.<br><br>Many of the original names kept appearing in connection with subsequent covert, violent CIA projects, such as Operation Mongoose, Operation Phoenix, the JFK murder, the regime changes in Chile, El Salvador, Nicaragua, the Watergate burglary, the bombing of Cubana flight 455, the Iran-Contra war, and Operation Condor which exterminated many South American progressives. Names like Luis Posada, Orlando Bosch, Felix Rodriguez, E. Howard Hunt, Frank Sturgis, Antonio Veciana, Guillermo Novo, Eugenio Martinez, Ricardo Morales, David Sanchez Morales, David Phillips, all members of the 40. <br><br>In an oligarchy where the important decisions are made in secret by a power elite, where the mainstream media is used to manipulate rather than inform, it's often difficult for the public to distinguish actual from virtual reality. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>It's apparent that Posada could supply many of the missing pieces of the puzzles of the last 45 years. He has friends in Miami and they have brought him here to resurface after 30 years. If he needed money or a place to hide comfortably, they could easily have provided him with such in another country. What we now know about his past is enough to say that he and his friends could be using going public with his knowledge of CIA operations as a threat or extortion chip, perhaps to affect future US policy toward Cuba. This would explain why his legally required extradition is being delayed.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://baltimorechronicle.com/072205Crumpacker.shtml" target="top">Link</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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POSADA CARRILES

Postby chiggerbit » Fri Jul 22, 2005 10:57 pm

Excellent subject for a data dump! <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Very strange....

Postby StillRebelYell » Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:12 pm

After I posted that article, my account immediately became corrupt here. I had to re-register. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :eek --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eek.gif ALT=":eek"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>I posted this here because it's current events again, written by the author today, but I'll post it in data dump too. I had no idea this guy was in the news again.<br><br>Here's Carriles<br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v462/sideburn_chaser/Politics/dd4aa48c.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br>And his good buddy Felix Rodriguez<br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v462/sideburn_chaser/Politics/a026be5c.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p097.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=stillrebelyell>StillRebelYell</A> at: 7/22/05 9:27 pm<br></i>
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Re: Very strange....

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:42 pm

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>After I posted that article, my account immediately became corrupt here. I had to re-register.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>What the -? Sorry for the inconvenience. ezboard has the most unnerving glitches sometimes.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Very strange....

Postby RebelYell » Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:51 pm

It's working now. Maybe I was logged in too long. I left it on when I watched the Conyers hearing on CSPAN for about an hour.<br><br>Startled me, though. Creepy. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Who has what to hide about Luis Posada Carriles?

Postby DrDebugDU » Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:12 pm

Declassified reports on Luis Posada Carriles:<br><br>Luis Posada Carriles had a long relationship with the CIA. In February 1961, he joined the CIA's Brigade 2506 to invade Cuba, although the ship to which he was assigned never landed at the Bay of Pigs. While in the U.S. military between 1963 and 1965 the CIA recruited him and trained him in demolitions; he subsequently became a trainer of other paramilitary exile forces in the mid 1960s. CIA documents posted below reveal that he was terminated as an asset in July 1967, but then reinstated four months later and apparently remained an asset until 1974. The documents also show that he remained in contact with the Agency until June 1976, only three months before the plane bombing.<br><br>Document 1: CIA, October 13, 1976, Report, "Traces on Persons Involved in 6 Oct 1976 Cubana Crash."<br><br>In the aftermath of the bombing of Cubana flight 455, the CIA ran a file check on all names associated with the terror attack. In a report to the FBI the Agency stated that it had no association with the two Venezuelans who were arrested. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>A section on Luis Posada Carriles was heavily redacted when the document was declassified</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->. But the FBI retransmitted the report three days later and that version was released uncensored revealing Posada's relations with the CIA.<br><br>Document 2: FBI, October 16, 1976, Retransmission of CIA Trace Report<br><br>In this uncensored version of the CIA trace report, the Agency admits that it "had a relationship with one person whose name has been mentioned in connection with the reported bombing," Luis Posada Carriles. The <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>CIA file check shows that Posada was "a former agent of CIA."</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> Although it doesn't say when his employment began, it indicates he was terminated briefly in the summer of 1967 but then reinstated in the fall and continued as an asset while a high level official in the Venezuelan intelligence service, DISIP, until 1974. Even then, "occasional contact with him" continued until June 1976.<br><br>Document 3: CIA, June 1966, File search on Luis "Pozada"<br><br>In this file search the CIA states that Posada has "been of operational interest to this Agency since April 1965," the likely date when he first became a paid CIA agent.<br><br>Document 4: FBI, July 18, 1966, "Cuba"<br><br>An informant reports to the FBI that Posada is a CIA agent and is "receiving approximately $300.00 per month from CIA."<br><br>Document 5: CIA, April 17, 1972, Personal Record Questionnaire on Posada<br><br>This "PRQ" was compiled in 1972 at a time Posada was a high level official at the Venezuelan intelligence service, DISIP, in charge of demolitions. The CIA was beginning to have some concerns about him, based on reports that he had taken CIA explosives equipment to Venezuela, and that he had <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>ties to a Miami mafia</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> figure named Lefty Rosenthal. The PRQ spells out Posada's personal background and includes his travel to various countries between 1956 and 1971. It also confirms that one of his many aliases was "Bambi Carriles."<br><br>EARLY TERRORIST PLOTTING<br><br>During the time that Posada was on the CIA payroll in the mid-1960s, he participated in a number of plots that involved <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>sabotage and explosives</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->. FBI reporting recorded some of Posada's earliest activities, including his financial ties to Jorge Mas Canosa, who would later become head of the powerful anti-Castro lobby, the Cuban American National Foundation.<br><br>Document 6: FBI, July 7, 1965, "Luis Posada Carriles"<br><br>The FBI transmits information obtained from the CIA's Mexico station titled "<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Intention of Cuban Representation in Exile (RECE) to Blow up a Cuban or Soviet Vessel in Veracruz, Mexico</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->." The document summarizes intelligence on a payment that Jorge Mas Canosa, then the head of RECE, has made to Luis Posada to finance a sabotage operation against ships in Mexico. Posada reportedly has "100 pounds of C-4 explosives and detonators" and limpet mines to use in the operation.<br><br>Document 7: FBI, July 13, 1965, "Cuban Representation in Exile (RECE)"<br><br>A FBI cable reports on intelligence obtained from "MM T-1" (a code reference to the CIA) on a number of RECE terrorist operations, including the <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>bombing of the Soviet library in Mexico City</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->. The document contains information on payments from Jorge Mas Canosa to Luis Posada for an <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>operation to bomb ships in the port of Veracruz</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->, as well as a description of Posada and a statement he gave to the FBI in June of 1964.<br><br>Document 8: FBI, May 17, 1965, "Roberto Alejos Arzu; Luis Sierra Lopez, Neutrality Matters, Internal Security- Guatemala"<br><br>The FBI links Posada to a <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>major plot to overthrow the government of Guatemala</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->. U.S. Customs agents force Posada and other co- conspirators to turn over a cache of weapons that are listed in this document. The weapons include napalm, 80 pounds of C-4 explosives, and 28 pounds of C-3 explosives.<br><br>BOMBING OF CUBANA FLIGHT 455<br><br>Document 9: FBI, October 7, 1976, Secret Intelligence Report, "Suspected Bombing of Cubana Airlines DC-8 Near Barbados"<br><br>In one of the very first reports on the October 6, 1976, downing of Cubana Flight 455, the FBI Venezuelan bureau cables that a confidential source has identified <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Luis Posada and Orlando Bosch as responsible for the bombing</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->. "The source all but admitted that Posada and Bosch had engineered the bombing of the airline," according to the report. The report appears to indicate that the Venezuelan secret police, DISIP, were arranging for Bosch and Posada to leave Caracas, although this section of the document has been censored.<br><br>In the report, the FBI identifies two Venezuelan suspects arrested in Barbados: Freddy Lugo and Jose Vazquez Garcia. Vazquez Garcia is an alias for Hernan Ricardo Lozano. Both Ricardo and Lugo worked for Luis Posada's private security firm in Caracas at the time of the bombing.<br><br>Document 10: FBI, November 2, 1976, Secret Intelligence Report "Bombing of Cubana Airlines DC-8 Near Barbados, West Indies, October 6, 1976"<br><br>The FBI receives information from a source who has spoken with Ricardo Morales Navarrete, a Cuban exile informant working for DISIP in Caracas. Known as "Monkey" Morales, he tells the FBI source of two meetings during which plotting for the plane bombing took place: one in the Hotel Anauco Hilton in Caracas, and another in Morales room at the Hilton. Both meetings were attended by Posada Carriles. A key passage of the report quotes Morales as stating that "<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>some people in the Venezuelan government are involved in this airplane bombing</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->, and that if Posada Carriles talks, then Morales Navarrete and others in the Venezuelan government will 'go down the tube.' He said that if people start talking 'we'll have our own Watergate.'" Morales also states that after the plane went down, one of the men who placed the bomb aboard the jet called Orlando Bosch and reported: "A bus with 73 dogs went off a cliff and all got killed."<br><br>Document 11: FBI, November 3, 1976, Cable, "Bombing of Cubana Airlines DC-8 Near Barbados, West Indies, October 6, 1976"<br><br>The FBI reports on arrest warrants issued by a Venezuelan judge for Posada, Bosch, Freddy Lugo and Ricardo Lozano.<br><br>ORLANDO BOSCH AND ANTI-CASTRO TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS<br><br>Document 12: FBI, January 24, 1977, Secret Report, "Coordination of United Revolutionary Organizations (CORU) Neutrality Matters - Cuba - (Anti-Castro)"<br><br>The FBI reports on a plot to carry out terrorist attacks that will divert attention from the prosecution of Orlando Bosch and Luis Posada in Caracas. Orders for the attacks are attributed to Orlando Garcia Vazquez, a Cuban exile who was then head of the Venezuelan intelligence service, DISIP. (Garcia Vazquez currently lives in Miami.) The report also provides some details on CORU.<br><br>Document 13: FBI, August 16, 1978, Secret Report, "Coordinacion de Organizaciones Revolucionarias Unidas (Coordination of United Revolutionary Organizations) (CORU), Neutrality Matters - Cuba - (Anti-Castro)"<br><br>This FBI report provides a comprehensive overview of CORU which the FBI describes as "an anti-Castro terrorist umbrella organization" headed by Orlando Bosch. The report records how CORU was created at a secret meeting in Santo Domingo on June 11, 1976, during which a series of bombing attacks were planned, including the bombing of a Cubana airliner. On page 6, the report relates in great detail how Orlando Bosch was met in Caracas on September 8, 1976, by Luis Posada and other anti-Castro exiles and a deal was struck as to what kind of activities he could organize on Venezuelan soil. The document also contains substantive details on behind-the-scene efforts in Caracas to obtain the early release of Bosch and Posada from prison.<br><br>IRAN-CONTRA AND POSADA (A.K.A. RAMON MEDINA)<br><br>Document 14: September 2, 1986, Contra re-supply document, [Distribution of Warehoused Contra Weapons and Equipment - in Spanish with English translation]<br><br>After <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>bribing his way out of prison</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> in Venezuela in September 1985, Posada went directly to El Salvador to work on the illicit contra resupply operations being run by Lt. Col. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Oliver North</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->. Posada assumed the name "Ramon Medina," and worked as a deputy to another anti-Castro Cuban exile, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Felix Rodriguez</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->, who was in charge of a small airlift of arms and supplies to the contras in Southern Nicaragua. Rodriguez used the code name, Max Gomez. This document, released during the Congressional investigation into the Iran-Contra operations, records both Posada and Rodriguez obtaining supplies for contra troops from a warehouse at Illopango airbase in San Salvador.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB153/">www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB153/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>When Posada was arrested [in Venezuela] he was found with a map of Washington showing the daily route of to work of <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Orlando Letelier</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->, the former Chilean Foreign Minister, who had been assassinated on 21st September, 1976.<br><br>Herman Ricardo and Freddy Lugo were both sentenced to twenty years imprisonment. He escaped from a Venezuelan jail in 1985 as a result of a bribe from Jorge Mas Canosa, the head of the Cuban American National Foundation (CANF), an <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>organization created under Ronald Reagan</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->. The organization received substantial federal funds for running Radio and TV Marti, in order to transmit propaganda to Cuba. <br><br>In the 1980s Posada was accused of being involved in <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>importing large quantities of cocaine</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> into the US in support of the Contras in Nicaragua. According to Peter Dale Scott (Cocaine Politics) Posada was second in charge of a major Contra resupply operation at Ilopango Air Force Base in El Salvador. He was recruited by Felix Rodriguez, a long-time CIA operative who was with the Bolivian forces that captured and executed Che Guevera.<br><br>Posada gave an interview to the New York Times (July 12th, 199<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 8) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/glasses.gif ALT="8)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> , where he admitted to planning a series of bombings in Cuba. He also revealed that he had <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>received $200,000 in US government</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> funding via the Cuban American National Foundation <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>for these attacks</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->.<br><br>Posada continued to take part in terrorist attacks on Cuba. In November 2000 Posada and three colleagues, Guillermo Novo, Gaspar Jiménez and Pedro Remón, were arrested and imprisoned after <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>trying to assassinate Fidel Castro at the University of Panama</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->. <br><br>In August, 2004, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>President Mireyas Moscoso of Panama, pardoned Posada</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->, Novo, Jiménez and Remón for their role in attempting to assassinate Castro.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKposada.htm">www.spartacus.schoolnet.c...posada.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Then again Felix Rodriguez and George H.W. Bush both helped organize and recruit the Cuban exiles in the early 1960s, so I doubt whether he'll be extradited. He'll probably get his American citizenship eventually... <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Who has what to hide about Luis Posada Carriles?

Postby RebelYell » Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:19 pm

Hey, good Dr., can you also post that in my data dump thread about Carriles? Thank you!<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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