Researchers Find a 'Liberal Gene'

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Researchers Find a 'Liberal Gene'

Postby Montag » Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:45 pm

Researchers Find a 'Liberal Gene'
by Hannah Gregory

Oct. 27, 2010
http://ucsdnews.ucsd.edu/newsrel/soc/10 ... alGene.asp

Liberals may owe their political outlook partly to their genetic make-up, according to new research from the University of California, San Diego, and Harvard University. Ideology is affected not just by social factors, but also by a dopamine receptor gene called DRD4. The study’s authors say this is the first research to identify a specific gene that predisposes people to certain political views.

Appearing in the latest edition of The Journal of Politics published by Cambridge University Press, the research focused on 2,000 subjects from The National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health. By matching genetic information with maps of the subjects’ social networks, the researchers were able to show that people with a specific variant of the DRD4 gene were more likely to be liberal as adults, but only if they had an active social life in adolescence.

Dopamine is a neurotransmitter affecting brain processes that control movement, emotional response, and ability to experience pleasure and pain. Previous research has identified a connection between a variant of this gene and novelty-seeking behavior, and this behavior has previously been associated with personality traits related to political liberalism.

Lead researcher James H. Fowler of UC San Diego and his colleagues hypothesized that people with the novelty-seeking gene variant would be more interested in learning about their friends’ points of view. As a consequence, people with this genetic predisposition who have a greater-than-average number of friends would be exposed to a wider variety of social norms and lifestyles, which might make them more liberal than average. They reported that “it is the crucial interaction of two factors – the genetic predisposition and the environmental condition of having many friends in adolescence – that is associated with being more liberal.” The research team also showed that this held true independent of ethnicity, culture, sex or age.

Fowler concludes that the social and institutional environment cannot entirely explain a person’s political attitudes and beliefs and that the role of genes must be taken into account. “These findings suggest that political affiliation is not based solely on the kind of social environment people experience,” said Fowler, professor of political science and medical genetics at UC San Diego.

“It is our hope that more scholars will begin to explore the potential interaction of biology and environment,” he said. “The way forward is to look for replication in different populations and age groups.”

The first author on the study is Jaime Settle, doctoral student in political science at UC San Diego. Settle’s and Fowler’s coauthors are Christopher Dawes, also of UC San Diego, and Nicholas Christakis, Harvard.

This research was supported by the National Institute on Aging and the National Science Foundation.
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Re: Researchers Find a 'Liberal Gene'

Postby justdrew » Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:21 am

eventually it'll be possible to engineer a retro-virus that will perform a germ-line modification to all human genomes that will cause just the right mutations to make us all be highly predisposed to being excellent nice trustworthy authority questioning individuals. uh... mwah ha ha ha?

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Re: Researchers Find a 'Liberal Gene'

Postby Montag » Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:24 am

justdrew wrote:eventually it'll be possible to engineer a retro-virus that will perform a germ-line modification to all human genomes that will cause just the right mutations to make us all be highly predisposed to being excellent nice trustworthy authority questioning individuals. uh... mwah ha ha ha?


You've seen Gattaca! Haha...
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Re: Researchers Find a 'Liberal Gene'

Postby justdrew » Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:28 am

Montag wrote:
justdrew wrote:eventually it'll be possible to engineer a retro-virus that will perform a germ-line modification to all human genomes that will cause just the right mutations to make us all be highly predisposed to being excellent nice trustworthy authority questioning individuals. uh... mwah ha ha ha?


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actually not. never gotten around to it, maybe someday.
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Re: Researchers Find a 'Liberal Gene'

Postby Nordic » Fri Oct 29, 2010 2:15 am

Lead researcher James H. Fowler of UC San Diego and his colleagues hypothesized that people with the novelty-seeking gene variant would be more interested in learning about their friends’ points of view. As a consequence, people with this genetic predisposition who have a greater-than-average number of friends would be exposed to a wider variety of social norms and lifestyles, which might make them more liberal than average. They reported that “it is the crucial interaction of two factors – the genetic predisposition and the environmental condition of having many friends in adolescence – that is associated with being more liberal.” The research team also showed that this held true independent of ethnicity, culture, sex or age.


C'mon, this sounds ridiculous. Complete crap IMO.
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Re: Researchers Find a 'Liberal Gene'

Postby justdrew » Fri Oct 29, 2010 3:03 am

Nordic wrote:
Lead researcher James H. Fowler of UC San Diego and his colleagues hypothesized that people with the novelty-seeking gene variant would be more interested in learning about their friends’ points of view. As a consequence, people with this genetic predisposition who have a greater-than-average number of friends would be exposed to a wider variety of social norms and lifestyles, which might make them more liberal than average. They reported that “it is the crucial interaction of two factors – the genetic predisposition and the environmental condition of having many friends in adolescence – that is associated with being more liberal.” The research team also showed that this held true independent of ethnicity, culture, sex or age.


C'mon, this sounds ridiculous. Complete crap IMO.


There are a number of (well, at least one) known genetic mutations ('diseases') that cause characteristic personality traits. If the mechanism of the that mutations action were determined and understood it could be possible to engineer mutation to achieve specific goals.
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Re: Researchers Find a 'Liberal Gene'

Postby psynapz » Fri Oct 29, 2010 8:47 am

Didn't somebody else find a mental illness associated with social conservatism recently as well?
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Re: Researchers Find a 'Liberal Gene'

Postby brekin » Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:21 pm

Liberals may owe their political outlook partly to their genetic make-up, according to new research from the University of California, San Diego, and Harvard University.


Theory FAIL

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Re: Researchers Find a 'Liberal Gene'

Postby nathan28 » Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:55 pm

Considering my fondness for dopamine-acting agents, my current vacation from them and my inability to focus on anything but TV and the refresh button on my browser, if this theory were anything but a ridiculously laughable exercise in swindling funding $$$ and media att'n via a bunch of unexamined presumptions masquerading as an experimental model, then I'd be posting at Stormfront.
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Re: Researchers Find a 'Liberal Gene'

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:58 pm

I love that I repeatedly mis-read that headline as "Literal Gene"

John Cleese provides some good introductory science understanding here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvijJTjZ8Rg
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Re: Researchers Find a 'Liberal Gene'

Postby justdrew » Fri Oct 29, 2010 6:33 pm

OK, the mutation I was thinking of is called "Williams Syndrome"

"The deleted region includes more than 25 genes" - so what if only some of them were knocked out? The syndrome's effects could conceivably be modified to reduce the bad effects. Of course, such research would not be possible within an ethical research environment. So we can hope that'll never happen.
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Re: Researchers Find a 'Liberal Gene'

Postby Nordic » Fri Oct 29, 2010 8:21 pm

justdrew wrote:There are a number of (well, at least one) known genetic mutations ('diseases') that cause characteristic personality traits. If the mechanism of the that mutations action were determined and understood it could be possible to engineer mutation to achieve specific goals.



Well sure. But this sure as hell doesn't sound like one of those. This sounds like the scientific equivalent of "beer talk".
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Re: Researchers Find a 'Liberal Gene'

Postby justdrew » Fri Oct 29, 2010 8:42 pm

Nordic wrote:
justdrew wrote:There are a number of (well, at least one) known genetic mutations ('diseases') that cause characteristic personality traits. If the mechanism of the that mutations action were determined and understood it could be possible to engineer mutation to achieve specific goals.



Well sure. But this sure as hell doesn't sound like one of those. This sounds like the scientific equivalent of "beer talk".


yeah, the OP is junk for now, when the headline is burried beneith three layers of "...and that mights" it's fairly bogus. Probably fair to suspect a psiop story was planted with this.
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Re: Researchers Find a 'Liberal Gene'

Postby Nordic » Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:05 pm

Of course! Being "liberal" is just a mental disease, like having asperger's or something.

Being liberal would have NOTHING TO DO with an actual common-sense response to the conditions of people in the world, now, would it?

Nope, it's just a brain-wiring anomaly.

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Re: Researchers Find a 'Liberal Gene'

Postby Montag » Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:33 pm

Jeez, people seem to be insulted by this... At least according to this study I'm pretty sure they'd classify me as a liberal, and I didn't take it that way at all. Has anyone identified a conservative gene? If this liberal one has any staying power, I'm sure they'll be looking for it.
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