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I thank God every day for RI - How to turn others onto RI?

Postby 82_28 » Wed Jan 26, 2011 12:59 am

I went out with some friends for lunch today. The husband of one of my friend's is really going overboard with "conspiracy shit" and she is begging me to talk to him. She says she can't handle it anymore and he has no one to talk to about it. I love speculating and don't mind talking about any subject. But my eyes glaze over when I talk to him and people like him. It's as though with every "new" angle to look at 9/11, FEMA camps, forced medication, bird flu etc etc etc etc must be brought up as if I haven't heard of it before. It doesn't grate on my nerves so much as no matter how much I may love some of these people, there's no talking prosaic sense to them.

I tend to lean towards the "what would I do if I was writing a dystopian novel and then found myself living it" approach. Not a, WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE WE NEED TO STOCK UP ETC obsession. Though, you could ask anybody who knows me, they think I too am "way too into this shit", I still can talk about relationships, sports, celebrity shit, weather (with or without weather manipulation), science, history, literature etc. But, I just don't have the time, inclination and patience to

A: listen perpetually to shit I was reading about endlessly beginning a month after 9/11 or the bush selection for that matter

B: listen to obsessive fears of being gassed from above and below etc etc

C: try and continually help them keep their eyes on the pea of immediate interpersonal relationships first

D: recognize that media mind control is more subtle and yet more in your face than anybody (like this husband) even realizes simply because he and so many others have jumped in whole hog and have necessarily erased the ability to apply prosaic yet multi-contextual hypotheses

This husband and also good friend of mine in and of himself has been turned onto Jeff Wells, namely the cult hit "Coincidence Theorist Guide" etc and many people have had me extend invitations to read and post here on the forum. Yet, it just doesn't stick. Why not? I believe if they "kept up" around here they would at least glean what we try and glean. The fairly wide ranging subjects we cover here just doesn't seem to do it for those who are currently ensconced within the, I believe it was called some time ago, "The Conspiracy Industry".
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Re: I thank God every day for RI - How to turn others onto R

Postby wallflower » Wed Jan 26, 2011 2:07 am

As a new poster and longtime lurker I'll offer my two cents.

One reason I lurked so long is some many posters here have serious research chops. Let's face it that takes some time to develop and I haven't.

Howard Rheingold has some great stuff online about crap detection--just Google--including a video "Crap Detection 101"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxmG6VeNSuQ

The 101 level is pretty elementary for many writers here. But it's good to remember that most folks probably need work at the level. Once people have advanced skills, it's easy to come off as pompous. I don't think it's usually intentional, rather just presuming people already have those competencies. It's a good thing to have a healthy respect for the basic tools an to encourage others to gain respect for them too.

There are good reasons for not putting up personally identifiable information here. Still, every community benefits from phatic communication. I've never hung out in the lounge, and I'm not sure how to encourage more of that sort of easy talk in the threads, but some folks here are very good at it. They help to make the board a place people what to frequent.

Lots of talk on the Internet about how anonymous personae encourage incivility. Obviously there's a kernel of truth to it. A related issue is playing devil's advocate. There's a style of debate here, that actually serves pretty well sometimes to outline the territory of useful inquiry that follows setting up arguments and then subjecting them to abuse to see what's left standing. The problem is that some threads are intended something more like brainstorms. That's not the right word, what I'm trying to say are more open-ended sorts of discussions where the devil's advocate approach serves to truncate the discussion.

I don't have a solution to that. Perhaps some inquiry about the intentions of posters when they post about how they imagine the thread discussion to proceed. But really that sort of prescription won't work in practice. In any case getting at intentions is one reason that phatic speech within threads has some utility-- "How's the weather there?" "Hope you're feeling good." and speech like that doesn't seem to have much purpose in itself. But I think the subtle reminders that we're all human here do in fact help people follow along. Anyhow I think recognizing that a knock down isn't useful in every thread is worthwhile.

All that said, there is a sort of rough and tumble ethos here I wouldn't want to change.

I do like the variety of topics. So much is happening so quickly in the area of social networking. This is a subject that seems to me to have much bearing on conspiracy theory. I'm probably not saying it quite right but the feel of this board seems like a lot of liberal arts majors. To the extent that computer nerds have followed a different educational trajectory, it would be fun if there were more of them here. I think there is a great deal of consilience. Computer science folks I think would benefit from political, literary, psychological, historical, perspectives. And the Liberal Arts folks benefit from the sorts of mapping problems computer science folks wrestle with in terms of data and social networking data in particular.
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Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Wed Jan 26, 2011 2:56 am

I learned way too late that adding rational history and science about social control and oppression to the CIA's W.O.O. (Wonderment Occluding Objectivity) psyops decoyt topics like 'UFOs from outer space' is detrimental to that history and science. The sociological term for this is "proximity contamination."

So temper your appreciation for sophisticated knowledge and usernames by recognizing this board's paradox.
Maybe...promote rationalism and displace the CIA's mind-bending W.O.O. which the admin here promotes.
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Re: I thank God every day for RI - How to turn others onto R

Postby 8bitagent » Wed Jan 26, 2011 3:28 am

It's funny, I was just thinking that a year or two ago when all the sudden shopkeepers, bus drivers or people I knew would start asking me for answers after their own personal "awakening".
While Alex Jones brags about how "wonderful" it is how many people have "woken up", I personally have come to feel a lot of this stuff is disruptive to some people's mental wellbeing, job, even family life.

That's why I just don't indulge; I'm flattered; but I'd rather talk about what we can do POSITIVELY in our own lives. Eating right, destressing, cutting off toxic relationships and friendships, working little bits toward larger goals, aggressively working toward jobs one wants, even growing a garden.

The whole over paranoid thing I think is counter-intuitive/productive. I grow weary with people saying "what do you think about chemtrails? Do you think HAARP is behind all the weather and earthquakes? Do you think the latest *insert big news event* was staged?"

While I'm glad to no longer be considered "fringe" in my thinking, I've also evolved a lot since I first began an interest in wider political/historical knowledge. I understand people are excited to be "awoken" and have a zillion questions after being asleep; but they also seem to take everything in they hear. I have to tell them a lot of what Alex Jones and most the other loud mouths say is hyperbole; almost on the level of what the Savages/Rushes/Becks push. Guns are RARELY(if ever) the answer. The founding fathers were not as angelic as people think. It's a bit more complex than these terms of "they", "false flags", "bilderberg", or whatever buzz words thrown around in conspiratainment land.

I honestly do not want to contribute to anyone's paranoia, but merely wish to provide food for thought to those balanced enough to have an open mind. This is pretty much the only "conspiracy" website I post/check on here and there; given to the 1) left leaning, anti right view 2) average age 3) broad broad knowledge of many subjects, and a love of good art and entertainment(be it music, art, film,e tc)
Also just a good balance, and a seasoned wisdom of knowing what matters in life(traveling, family, laughing, etc)

RI is nice as it's not merely a feedback loop, but more food for thought from a para-political view with people using their gut and noodle. I fear people getting too consumed and into "conspiracy theories"
as their thirst for knowledge is often wrought with no real substantive answers or balance.
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Re: I thank God every day for RI - How to turn others onto R

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Wed Jan 26, 2011 5:40 am

Hugh there is nothing like the amount of WOO on this board that there used to be, and I for one miss it.

You scare it off sometimes. I dunno if thats healthy.

So temper your appreciation for sophisticated knowledge and usernames by recognizing this board's paradox.
Maybe...promote rationalism and displace the CIA's mind-bending W.O.O. which the admin here promotes.


Seriously man you're starting to sound like Fintan Dunn. Rationalism is overrated anyway, and the CIA W.O.O. that you go on about doesn't happen as much as you think. Tho I have to admit it does happen. And I probably wouldn't have noticed if you hadn't pointed it out.
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Re: I thank God every day for RI - How to turn others onto R

Postby Twyla LaSarc » Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:38 am

8bitagent wrote:It's funny, I was just thinking that a year or two ago when all the sudden shopkeepers, bus drivers or people I knew would start asking me for answers after their own personal "awakening".
While Alex Jones brags about how "wonderful" it is how many people have "woken up", I personally have come to feel a lot of this stuff is disruptive to some people's mental wellbeing, job, even family life.

That's why I just don't indulge; I'm flattered; but I'd rather talk about what we can do POSITIVELY in our own lives. Eating right, destressing, cutting off toxic relationships and friendships, working little bits toward larger goals, aggressively working toward jobs one wants, even growing a garden.

The whole over paranoid thing I think is counter-intuitive/productive. I grow weary with people saying "what do you think about chemtrails? Do you think HAARP is behind all the weather and earthquakes? Do you think the latest *insert big news event* was staged?"

While I'm glad to no longer be considered "fringe" in my thinking, I've also evolved a lot since I first began an interest in wider political/historical knowledge. I understand people are excited to be "awoken" and have a zillion questions after being asleep; but they also seem to take everything in they hear. I have to tell them a lot of what Alex Jones and most the other loud mouths say is hyperbole; almost on the level of what the Savages/Rushes/Becks push. Guns are RARELY(if ever) the answer. The founding fathers were not as angelic as people think. It's a bit more complex than these terms of "they", "false flags", "bilderberg", or whatever buzz words thrown around in conspiratainment land.

I honestly do not want to contribute to anyone's paranoia, but merely wish to provide food for thought to those balanced enough to have an open mind. This is pretty much the only "conspiracy" website I post/check on here and there; given to the 1) left leaning, anti right view 2) average age 3) broad broad knowledge of many subjects, and a love of good art and entertainment(be it music, art, film,e tc)
Also just a good balance, and a seasoned wisdom of knowing what matters in life(traveling, family, laughing, etc)

RI is nice as it's not merely a feedback loop, but more food for thought from a para-political view with people using their gut and noodle. I fear people getting too consumed and into "conspiracy theories"
as their thirst for knowledge is often wrought with no real substantive answers or balance.


^^^This.

I went thru the freakout about a decade or so ago when I discovered a bunch of the stuff my crazy friends told me as nightmare bedtime stories at midnite were actually true.

I feel that I have come out the other side. This board is about that 'other side', where you begin saying, 'what's next?', 'and what can I do?'. I direct people here when I can and hope it sticks. The sanity here gave me anchor years ago. I truly hope there are others who will benfit from the same. Unfortunately, there will always be others who get their rush from the prospect of doom which always looms where humans are involved. The best to hope for is that others will read this board and likewise evolve past the cheap thrills and exercises in panicked futility...
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Re: I thank God every day for RI - How to turn others onto R

Postby 8bitagent » Wed Jan 26, 2011 8:26 am

Twyla LaSarc wrote:
^^^This.

I went thru the freakout about a decade or so ago when I discovered a bunch of the stuff my crazy friends told me as nightmare bedtime stories at midnite were actually true.

I feel that I have come out the other side. This board is about that 'other side', where you begin saying, 'what's next?', 'and what can I do?'. I direct people here when I can and hope it sticks. The sanity here gave me anchor years ago. I truly hope there are others who will benfit from the same. Unfortunately, there will always be others who get their rush from the prospect of doom which always looms where humans are involved. The best to hope for is that others will read this board and likewise evolve past the cheap thrills and exercises in panicked futility...


And oh do we ever need more anchors in our personal lives. This period right now seems a lot different than, say even five years ago in 2006. It feels like a true fog and calm unease. The blowhards on the political fear factory side(be it the Becks or Joneses) want to rile you up into thinking the end is truly nigh, and that the only answer is to have a negative reactionary position. Now there's an awful lot of unimaginably ugly things going on in this world...be it the endless carnage in Mexico and parts of Africa, the global child sex trade, the endless proliferation of war in the Muslim world by the "good guys", people in Indonesia and elsewhere used as virtual slaves in dangerous working conditions, the continuing horror in Haiti.

But then there is the personal "9/11" a lot of people face everyday that is far away from spotlights or noted events. The "apocalypse" is happening on a micro scale in so many lives. Watching as a loved one reaches the last mile in the battle with cancer...reeling from abuse of one kind or another, and various unexpected dramas; to even just general financial anxiety. So people might ask, if asking questions and being aware of darker truths is good; how can it also be counter-productive? The Jones/Becks will say they are just the messenger. But if we only have a narrow window to live vicariously through in this (seemingly) mortal coil...at some point it must occur that "being aware" can quickly fall into giving our power and sanity to fear.

Watching a little bit of that State of Union tonight, a really sickening feeling came over me...a queasy feeling(and it wasn't just that warmed over Mexican food I had earlier!) It just feels like we're in an odd kind of twilight period. If we've been in a weird fugue state since 2001, then right now there seems to be a distinctly eerie feel of uncertainty. And this is where I have to wonder, is there a balance between healthy paranoia and simply living life?

I just have the feeling like I'm sure a lot of you do, that something game changing is coming. Not mere staged people's revolts for the cameras in far away lands...not mere flare-ups of expected regional rhetoric overseas. Nor even mere earthquakes. I mean a series of events completely unpredictable and out of left field, as well as perhaps a singular transformative event that will not be easily escapable by turning off the tv or computer. Some might speculate on a 1929 like financial collapse or nuclear event; I however think it's something we could hardly wrap our minds around. Sometimes profound situations can arise from somewhat trivial events. While the events in Tuscon are an every day occurrence in inner cities, for whatever reason it's been a sort of marker for this weird period. Some see animals dying off as a sign. Some see the growing desperation of America and the world's workforce and crumbling economy as a sign. But like out of an M Night Shamylan thriller, it seems things are swirling into taking us toward the crazy zone.

On here, we play the guessing game. We analyze, look at trends, patterns. Opine at great length about the soot that collects from engines of industry and despair. But we still have a disconnect.
I cannot help but fear what may be to come; and hope everyone on here stays safe and sane. I want to believe that in 10, 20 years from now things will be relatively the same, if not slightly more improved. I want to believe Saturday Night Live and The Simpsons will continue to air new episodes. I want to believe things won't get too crazy in America or elsewhere. And that if we want to, we can live fulfilling and enriched lives. But there's the part of me that wonders if everything is coming to a head. That maybe we need to look through Kubrick's select body of work and see if we missed something. Surely he would know what's to come? In all the retweeted, rebooted, remade, de-friended and mish-mashed youtube uploaded we live in, it feels like people are so far removed from what's real. that they won't see what's coming or recognize it.

I think back to the ending of 25th Hour with Edward Norton...as his father played by Brian Cox is taking him to give up his life to the prison, he seems an alternate reality in his mind...a side possibility where that which he truly wants in his heart can manifest. To have a family, kids, earn a modest living, relax and be free. I wonder if a time will be reached where things slide into an alternate choice...one where we all can live in somewhat of a content lot in life. And one where we can only dream of when things were normal. I don't know, all this endless fearmongering, paranoia...I don't say "bring on the end times", but I will say nothing will every surprise me. And that people just need to live their lives.
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Re: I thank God every day for RI - How to turn others onto R

Postby 82_28 » Wed Jan 26, 2011 8:47 am

OK. Some things. And these are things I happen to "like" about the Universe. Namely, they way it "speaks" to you. Thus, I have all the time in the world to listen to HMW and all the time in the world to kick back and allow it all to be. We're looking for evil spirits here, not obsessive contrarians. I blame it all on PKD and time spent with a lot of motherfuckers who have allowed extreme ancient wisdom to permeate the western cultural norm. Just letting things go. Allowing things to be. To oppose evil, but to be kind to it in turn. Evil motherfuckers don't even have any idea they're evil. Why? Evil is fucking boring -- all you can do is maul and abuse somebody or something until they die. But synchs, uncanny wisdom, unconditional love are not boring. Though none of it makes for the most jet-setting, swanky, interesting and attractive dude in the world nor does it even approach the needs of a fairytale minded female, it just simply gets me through to live another day. People don't believe I have ESP. Nor do I. However when it happens, it happens. I foresee shit. Only when I am not trying. And I have come to understand that others foresee shit too. This comes from empathy. Empathy is nothing to brag about. When you feel bad that you are not feeling the pain of another at the time of contact, this is a sign of empathy. People who want certitude shall never find it within empathy and they will never find it within words or intellect. They will find it in the coincidences that line up with both their curiosity and their sense of justice.

As I was writing this and meant to continue with my pontifications a crazy, almost zany phenomenon occurred. I do apologize for the gory nature of what you are about to see, but this is roughly my point. Around five minutes before this happening, I saw it happen, but for some reason I thought intuition on the part of the eventual wounded would intervene and at the time I was in the middle of this "I thank god every day for RI" OP.

Nope.

I was in the middle of typing a sentence and the following results happened at the hands of a Cuisinart I had just stacked up to dry after washing (everybody is fine btw). They were preparing to make a pesto sauce for a small dinner party:

Girlfriend's arm. First impact of falling blade:

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Friend's finger while lunging to catch unknown falling object:

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Photo of McDeath picnic we wound up having while in triage:

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These little hints from the universe get me and I feel comfortable sharing these things here because I have a little latitude and I also know that some people are a little fascinated by the way I see things because I too am fascinated by most everything thrown out at this place.

For instance, I wouldn't even give a fuck about HMW's diznee stuff were it not for the voracious reading of PKD I did back in the day. Dick used to just go to the cafe in Disneyland and drink coffee in order to just soak within an Empire that Never Ended. He consorted with the trash strata. I wouldn't even be interested in KWH were it not for Dick. I wouldn't even be an ex-atheist were it not for Dick. There is too much to behold and to turn people onto "open source" magic is the greatest non-power of all. To be fascinated and not imagineered is a powerful non power that exists within all souls who are willing to take it. This is why overall, I dig HMW's shit -- simply to browse through. But I do not dig the certitude. I also do not dig his assumption's of Jeff or anyone.

So, long story short, how do we keep everybody here happy whilst attracting the lunatics who may or may not have something fruitful to say, all the while being a place where somebody can come here and learn a thing or two about friendliness, KWH, mind control, "netiquette" et al.

It is our processes here and I imagine they are hard to glean let alone comprehend when one is used to the "average" web forum.

BTW, just for the fuck of it, yes, just for the fuck of it, I may be enrolling in an astrology school this spring. I want to learn how this shit goes down and plus I wouldn't mind taking a class or two.

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Re: I thank God every day for RI - How to turn others onto R

Postby hava1 » Wed Jan 26, 2011 9:42 am

I can link to this board from my blog, probably a host of zionists coming to say that you got it all wrong :) I suspect this is not welcome so i didnt do it. this is my "doomday weapon" (the samson option...) if I really get pissed of.

28, I am free to teach online astrology, if you are so inclined, or tutor the novice.

I use the evolutionary kind (roughly Jeff green's approach, but I am not so serious about it).
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Re: I thank God every day for RI - How to turn others onto R

Postby bks » Wed Jan 26, 2011 9:50 am

RI is like AA: growth by attraction, not promotion. Those who need it will have the best chance of finding it.
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Re: I thank God every day for RI - How to turn others onto R

Postby 82_28 » Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:34 am

And here I thought it was growth by attrition. Anyhow, I guess what I am saying is, how in the hell do you jump to the chase?

I can think of all kinds of things worth reading or watching or even music to listen to which can clue some in. But, say, how do you get people who are a-ok to basically log in and chill as opposed to freak out? I find in person to person conversation that my mind winds up going a thousand different directions as far as explaining that which I am in no position to explain. I have no trouble pointing out a dickhead or a scam, but how do I "reach" someone who is head over heels into the victim's end game, encouraging them to keep their head up, while also keeping their head down? As I contribute and enjoy the fellow contributers here, I cannot for the life of me, get people to get into the conversation here -- as far as following it as it unfolds. Not that I would want it. Hell, I embarrass myself enough around here. The last thing I would want would be some dude coming in here and making things worse, or whatever that means.

I wouldn't even be asking were it not for the pleading today for me to "please talk to him". He has no one to talk to and he is obsessed. This is why I say, "thank god for RI". Is this place too deep? Is it an addiction (ala your comment, bks)? All I know is that minds far more grand than mine post here and we basically refrain from stupidity or cruelty. But I have learned so damned much here, it is my essential news site, it fulfills some need for human interaction for me, it keeps me skeptical and fascinated all at once and it spares no room for a fascist. I guess I just need to come up with a way, on a case by case basis, to define "human interaction", "needs", "skepticism", "fascination" and "fascist" etc.

All too often do people take partisan politics more seriously than they should. They do not take into account mystifying phenomena. Everyone must have an opinion of who done what, why they did it and then they get subsumed by the occult nature of the program. There then becomes an epidemic of paranoia where all is needed is the throwing off of partisanship and also the human capabilities of those who engineer the propaganda. Some propaganda must be accepted from the standpoint that there is never going to be anything any of us are going to be able to do about. But some, is meant to seed the uncertain adult minds which are raising children, interacting with others and thus polluting their way in life with a certitude that is more or less, passive aggressive and meant to have those same minds virtually unconcerned with the empire's seemingly breezy perpetuation of violence and crime.

Oh well. I gots my work cut out for me I guess. No big deal.
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Re: I thank God every day for RI - How to turn others onto R

Postby elfismiles » Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:36 am

Hi everybody. I'm an RI-holic and its been less than 3 days since my last post...
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I'm "out of State" (mini-vacation) and actually dreamed of RI this morning then had to come make sure the forum was still here. Whew! It was a twisted and scary dream, kinda like the wakeup scene at the end of WoO (Wizard of Oz). It was set in a diner which I think was analogous to the Lounge. At some point Jeff went missing and someone assumed the role of authority figure in his absence but there was much skepticism and paranoia about there legitimacy. As we grilled the authority figure they grilled each user about their past posts on the forum. At one point I was trying to remind Wombaticus Rex about some past posting repartee of his... as I and others shouted out hints to jog his memory... until suddenly my iPhone (with RI forum monitoring app) suddenly erupted in blooms of electronic flowers, each bloom representing a new comment on a post thread. Hundreds of posts were suddenly appearing and everyone else confirmed same as they too looked at their iPhone RI app. And at the same time we all realized what this meant - somehow Jeff or someone - IN THE FUTURE - was back posting to the forums, or something.

Eventually the RFID implanting riot police arrived and boxed us in to the diner and began grabbing and implanting us. I heard a rumor from someone that they'd read the script and we didn't have to worry because the writers had decided to go all non-sequiter on us and have <xxx> rush in and save the day. "Did I hear that correctly? <xxx> is going to save us?" Minutes later as I was about to escape I saw a flash of short greenness outside the diner coming towards us. Yep! It was the YODA-meister himself. Whew!

Later after things settled down and we went back to trying to figure out where Jeff went - interrogating the "authority figure" who seemed like a scam artist trying to convince us of some previously unknown history of Jeff's origin story - folks started to disperse, sad and despondent over the mysterious loss of Jeff and the community. Some of us even began looking around the diner for hidden signs / symbols, like clues in some ARG, that might help us get back to Jeff.

Then I awoke. </dream-surreality>

I'm glad to see the forum is still here. Jeff?! Yer still typing write?

Anyway, I've tried for several years to get some of my closest friends whom I know would have something to add to begin posting here and join the community. However, none of them has ever done so - aside from my friend Mack who came completely of his own accord (synchronistically after I'd stormed off after an interaction with Cuda). Mack had heard me mention the forum almost weekly on our radioshow when I'll often mention having found a link to this or that news story from here.

But as the OP says, "thank Jah for RI"! Clearly it is deeply in my thoughts.

Okay, gotta go get ready for today. Gonna drive down to Fayetteville (Fortean Name Game central!) and check out the town's vibe.

Hi everybody!
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Re: I thank God every day for RI - How to turn others onto R

Postby Pele'sDaughter » Wed Jan 26, 2011 11:16 am

It seems to me that all of us are here due our intense drive to know the truth about everything. Not everyone has that. I have had it all my life and it has become my reason for being. That's not something I can give to anyone else and I doubt you can either.
Don't believe anything they say.
And at the same time,
Don't believe that they say anything without a reason.
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Re: I thank God every day for RI - How to turn others onto R

Postby Jeff » Wed Jan 26, 2011 11:23 am

bks wrote:RI is like AA: growth by attraction, not promotion. Those who need it will have the best chance of finding it.


This sounds right for me. I'm quite content with RI remaining a niche concern, and I don't believe it would be recognizable if it appealed to a larger audience/community.

And I thank God every day for you characters, too.
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Re: I thank God every day for RI - How to turn others onto R

Postby norton ash » Wed Jan 26, 2011 12:56 pm

I've suggested the site to a few smart friends, but they're intimidated by the brains and research here, or they feel that they've entered mid-conversation and won't get up to speed. The other issue for them is having their comfortable reality rocked. We here may be Larkin's 'less-deceived' but it's really no picnic, is it?

I loathe the argument that people are attracted to 'conspiracy theory' as a refuge, an oversimplification of a complex world. Maybe if you're a reactionary who wants to blame his decline, or his town or nation's decline, on tha jooz or the NWO... on some hate object you're dreaming of shooting at when 'it all goes down'... only then might the conspiracy-as-comfort meme obtain.

I'm with Harold Bloom in his belief that certain literary works are eternal-canonical because of their strangeness or gnosticism, their contradiction, their mystery, their embrace of sacred and profane, their humour and tragedy. (e.g. J-Bathsheba, Chaucer, Dante, Shakespeare, Milton, Goethe, Kafka, Joyce, Dickinson, Beckett, Pynchon.)

All those head-scratching writers who wouldn't ever claim the secret knowledge or come out with it outright -- the killing joke-- but it glows beneath and beyond the text. They've had strong hints, and they pass it along, their art an effort to 'account for the mysterious circumstance of being.' (Saul Bellow, about whom I'm forever conflicted.)

The mainstream narrative can't do this, newspapers and TV always fail me, even good progressive writing must stay penned in its paradigm, or at least not change the colour of its shirt or its hypothesis... whereas RI has Bloom's 'strangeness', dares to embrace current events in text, context, subtext, contradiction and controversy.

I come here with no agenda, no area of specialization. I'm the peanut gallery. Because of the attention-span-shattering nature of my job, I don't do a lot of linking or try to host threads, seek to engage in lengthy debate, or draw attention to myself. (The job also makes me quite private and paranoid.) My previous avocation as a barfly finds me more suited to maintaining detachment or just barking out the occasional blue joke anyway, while the smarty-pantses have it out. I'll admit it's passive-aggressive, and Norton Ash can sometimes behave like the childish alter to another life of politesse and getting paid, where I'm forced to talk about the Leafs or puppet-show politics to get along.

I read all of RI, every damn word. I love the specialists here, am truly and constantly awestruck by your work. The artists, the designers of multimedia poems. This site and its contributors are a great gift to the muzzy-fuzzy generalists and seekers like me.

Stay strange and beautiful, and thank you, Jeff.
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